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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on January 22, 2013, 01:37:10 PM

Title: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 22, 2013, 01:37:10 PM
I know BKP can do rewinds, but I have no pickup to rewind ;) Any recommendations? I'm after something vintagey and bright for the neck.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2013, 02:32:40 PM
Not based on personal experience of course, but Jason Lollar must be a good bet if you're not bothered about cost.

In the UK, the Creamery make loads of Jazzmaster models:

http://www.at-the-creamery.co.uk/shop/vintage-jazzmaster-bridge-and-neck-pickups.html (http://www.at-the-creamery.co.uk/shop/vintage-jazzmaster-bridge-and-neck-pickups.html)
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 22, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
Cheers Philly, I have a couple of Lollar mini humbuckers and they are lovely, but the Creamery "Modern 58" looks like just the thing.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: marauder on January 22, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
I got a pair of humbucker sized Filtertron-a-likes from The Creamery and they are excellent sounding pickups.

The baseplates look a bit homemade, because they are.

No idea what the JM pickups are like, but I wouldn't hesitate to try a pair based on my experience with the ones I got.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 22, 2013, 05:17:02 PM
I got a pair of humbucker sized Filtertron-a-likes from The Creamery and they are excellent sounding pickups.

The baseplates look a bit homemade, because they are.

No idea what the JM pickups are like, but I wouldn't hesitate to try a pair based on my experience with the ones I got.

good thoughts there Marauder..

I'm toying with the idea of modding my Warmoth Jazzmaster build to something like this:
(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Guitarist/339/blacktop-jazzmaster2-640-80.jpg)
It has a single bridge VH2 at the moment
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Could be good!  I've forgotten what you have now, is it just a single humbucker or am I micing it up with one of your Strats?

There's something inherently cool about hybrid Fender-style guitars, it's hard to come up with a combination of body shape/pickups which doesn't work.  :D
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 22, 2013, 06:35:48 PM
It is a single humbucker, partly inspired by those Fernandes Jazzmasters:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15515.0

I've came across some demos of the blacktop Jazzmaster this afternoon - the pickup combo sounds great, works well I thought

generally I agree almost all Fender mix-up combos look good, but I don't like HSS for some reason ;)
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Elliot on January 22, 2013, 10:15:44 PM
I have found Curtis Novak great for Jaguar and Jazzmaster pickups - and he does some interesting variations too.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2013, 10:56:54 PM
It is a single humbucker, partly inspired by those Fernandes Jazzmasters:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15515.0

Ah yes, that's how I remembered it.  :)

Good call by Elliot, I haven't tried Curtis Novak's stuff but I always think it looks interesting.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 23, 2013, 02:19:55 AM
Here's another UK manufacturer I was trying to remember:


http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/strat.html (http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/strat.html)
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: lamp on January 24, 2013, 08:57:00 AM
I know someone who got a set of Creamery JM pickups and said that they were really good.  He then went on to buy a second set for his other JM.  They are good to deal with too, I've asked them about their WRHBs and they were quick to respond and discuss customisation. 
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: TeeBee on January 24, 2013, 09:12:30 AM
I'm really happy with the pickups Hayden Minnett at Bulldog pickups made for me:

http://www.bulldogpickups.com/ (http://www.bulldogpickups.com/)
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 09:55:28 AM
I'm really happy with the pickups Hayden Minnett at Bulldog pickups made for me:

http://www.bulldogpickups.com/ (http://www.bulldogpickups.com/)

I had a quick look at their website, and they don't do Jazzmaster pickups as far as I see.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 09:57:01 AM
I know someone who got a set of Creamery JM pickups and said that they were really good.  He then went on to buy a second set for his other JM.  They are good to deal with too, I've asked them about their WRHBs and they were quick to respond and discuss customisation.

I wrote to The Creamery guys a couple of days back after the first responses here and got back a friendly reply this morning. I think I'm going to go for them.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 09:59:52 AM
Here's another UK manufacturer I was trying to remember:

http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/strat.html (http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/strat.html)

I tried to get in touch with them a few months back when I was looking at P90-style strat pickups. Disappointingly never heard back so went with a DiMarzio in the end. Pity, the website looks good.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 24, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
I'll be interested to see how you get on with the Creamery.

I'm quite intrigued by their 12-Pole P-90 sized humbuckers.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 31, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
I'll be interested to see how you get on with the Creamery.

I'm quite intrigued by their 12-Pole P-90 sized humbuckers.

Pay day and Jazzmaster pickup ordering day is today :) 14 days until shipping has been estimated.

I've ordered a new Warmoth pickguard for the new arrangement - their pickguards are surprisingly cheap.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on January 31, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
I've ordered a new Warmoth pickguard for the new arrangement - their pickguards are surprisingly cheap.

They are, and they have a really good choice of pickup configurations too, on some models anyway.

Shame the shipping is so expensive!
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on January 31, 2013, 04:12:42 PM
I've ordered a new Warmoth pickguard for the new arrangement - their pickguards are surprisingly cheap.

They are, and they have a really good choice of pickup configurations too, on some models anyway.

Shame the shipping is so expensive!

I agree, but nevertheless the new pickguard cost me 33quid or so including shipping. I still say thats a deal. Of course, it completely depends on if I will get stung for duty.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on February 15, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
warmoth pickguard is here after 3.5 weeks. no duty needed to be paid  :D

still waiting on the pickup, I expect it will come next week.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on February 15, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
Result on the Warmoth delivery!

The Creamery aren't too quck are they, but I assume it was a custom build from scratch?
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on February 15, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
I think it was a custom build from scratch indeed, and to be fair they did warn we there would be a 2 week lead time. If it arrives early next week, it will be more or less as they promised, accounting for postage.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on March 01, 2013, 11:45:30 AM
the pickup arrived today, pretty much exactly a month after I ordered it. now, that is quite a delay, but the creamery explained the delay was due to them moving into a new workshop, and they also put a friendly note in with the pickup. i was in no special rush for the pickup, so i do feel like forgiving the delay.

the pickup itself is quite nicely made, a similar standard to the mini-humbuckers i've had from Lollar - professionally done, but with a few small signs of being handmade. i have a good feeling at the moment it will sound good, but the proof is in the listening!
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on March 01, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Sounds good!

I agree with you re forgiving the delay, I buy so much stuff by mail order that I pretty much order and forget until it turns up.  I don't mind a slight delay unless I think it's due to sheer laziness and ineffficiency!

Off topic, I didn't realise you have multiple Lollar minis.  Have you got both the mini-humbucker and Firebird variations?  I'd be interested to know how they compare.

Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on March 01, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
I do have both variations - but its quite hard to compare them(!) because the Firebird one is in the bridge of a WezV Firebird I, and the Mini-HB one is in the neck of my Adrian Smith-alike Agile Les Paul.

I liked them both anyway, Jason was a pleasure to deal with and I would certainly order from him again if the exchange rate was advantageous.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on March 01, 2013, 12:19:52 PM
Yes, Mr Lollar was good to deal with.  I have the Firebird pickup in a Tele, but I often think about changing the pickups in that one and transplanting the Firebird elsewhere.... it would be really cool in the neck position of my (24 fret) SG-X, but I'm not sure it would be a sensible idea to take the router to that guitar!
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: HTH AMPS on March 02, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
http://www.jlguitars.com/ (http://www.jlguitars.com/)

I've dealt with this guy, he's in Spain - got his P90 in my SG junior, very nice stuff.  He does Jazzmaster pickups.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on March 02, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Thanks for letting us know about him HTH.

So the creamery jazzmaster neck sounds great. I've never tried a real jazzmaster pickup before, but it sounds like a strat pickup with a bold jazzy sounding low end. With a heavy pick and flatwound strings it would be great for jazz, a jazz master if you will.

I need to experiment more with it, but it works perfectly with the vh2 in the bridge position. In particular the inbetween position give a killer clean tone.

Sadly, and what I already knew would happen, is that the single pickup raunchiness this guitar had with the vh2 alone is now gone. The vh2 is still very good of course, but adding a neck pickup has taken some of the liveliness away. On the other hand, I now have a couple of extra clean tones and a fender neck violin lead tone.

More in the next days.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: Philly Q on March 03, 2013, 02:07:17 AM
Sadly, and what I already knew would happen, is that the single pickup raunchiness this guitar had with the vh2 alone is now gone. The vh2 is still very good of course, but adding a neck pickup has taken some of the liveliness away. On the other hand, I now have a couple of extra clean tones and a fender neck violin lead tone.

Do you mean the tone of the VHII has literally changed (due to magnetic string pull, presumably?)  or that your perception of the tone has changed because you now have a neck pickup to compare it to?  :?
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on March 03, 2013, 08:38:47 AM
Sadly, and what I already knew would happen, is that the single pickup raunchiness this guitar had with the vh2 alone is now gone. The vh2 is still very good of course, but adding a neck pickup has taken some of the liveliness away. On the other hand, I now have a couple of extra clean tones and a fender neck violin lead tone.

Do you mean the tone of the VHII has literally changed (due to magnetic string pull, presumably?)  or that your perception of the tone has changed because you now have a neck pickup to compare it to?  :?

It could indeed be entirely perception. Guitar definitely seems a bit less lively though. Perhaps a combination of string pull and a bit more stuff in the signal path.
Title: Re: Jazzmaster pickups
Post by: gwEm on March 03, 2013, 12:08:31 PM
Just had another session with it. As well as adding an extra pickup I also changed the colour of the pickguard. Actually it feels like an entirely different guitar, weird.