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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: WezV on January 22, 2013, 05:20:05 PM

Title: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 22, 2013, 05:20:05 PM: just an assembly job on this one. Its one of those where the finish didn't quite go right, it crazed quite badly... but it made more sense to go with it than re-do and I am quite happy thats the decision we made

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/cabrel10_zpsaa98e287.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/cabrel17_zps45b87ff6.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/cabrel18_zpsd55aed6e.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/cabrel20_zpsd2688ca1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Telerocker on January 22, 2013, 05:36:55 PM: Looks nice (reliced). :)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Twinfan on January 22, 2013, 05:53:16 PM: Cool as!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Mr. Air on January 22, 2013, 06:46:06 PM: That looks super cool :D
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 22, 2013, 07:39:46 PM: I really love that. Personally, on a guitar like that, the checked finish works well. It feels like a blunt instrument for serious ~~work~~ rawk. Very very cool indeed.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: 38thBeatle on January 22, 2013, 08:02:28 PM: I agree with Andrew- I think it all works well.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 22, 2013, 10:03:59 PM: Like that, looks genuinely old rather than a relic.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2013, 11:01:13 PM: Nice relic job, even if it was unintentional!

What are those super-knurly knobs, Callahams like the bridge/saddles?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: _tom_ on January 22, 2013, 11:45:50 PM: That looks awesome. Now getting some gas for the first time in a while!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Kiichi on January 22, 2013, 11:58:29 PM: Oh my, that is nice. The botched finish goes well with the Tv Jones. Looks fitting.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 23, 2013, 08:25:20 AM: i think i will stick with philly's "unintentional" rather than Kiichi's "botched".

the original plan was a thin skin hand buffed nitro finish, so we were never aiming for perfect mirror finish. The checking gave us the option of redoing it (taking many months given the season), leaving as is - new but checked. or doing a bit of relicing to tie it all together

everything past this point (the new but checked stage) was completely intentional:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/cab1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 23, 2013, 08:27:18 AM: Quote from: Philly Q on January 22, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
What are those super-knurly knobs, Callahams like the bridge/saddles?

parts drawer specials that seemed to suit it well, cant remember if they are callahans or glendales as i didnt buy them myself
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Kiichi on January 23, 2013, 12:20:05 PM: Quote from: WezV on January 23, 2013, 08:25:20 AM
i think i will stick with philly's "unintentional" rather than Kiichi's "botched".

Yes, "botched" is the wrong word, I apologize, it was too late. I would call it one of those perfect imperfections.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Twinfan on January 23, 2013, 02:02:29 PM: How does the buyer like it?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: dave_mc on January 23, 2013, 02:32:11 PM: very nice :)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on January 23, 2013, 03:22:22 PM: Cool!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 23, 2013, 03:59:14 PM: Quote from: Twinfan on January 23, 2013, 02:02:29 PM
How does the buyer like it?

he seems to like the way its gone. obviously when the finish crazed i offered him some options on how to proceed along with estimated prices and timescales. time is an important factor on this, which is probably why it crazed in the first place.

i sent him some pics last week and he was happy with the level of wear but wanted it a bit shinier. it was a good call as too often relicers go for the matte finish.... looking at my 30's reso and 50's archtop both have finishes just like this, still shiny in between the age.

so we went this way, its looking bloody good and its come out cheaper than originally quoted.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Twinfan on January 23, 2013, 04:35:46 PM: Result all round then!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Telerocker on January 23, 2013, 06:47:35 PM: It definitely looks bloody good!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Marco78 on January 23, 2013, 08:34:25 PM: My ultimate GAS is for a cabronita guitar!! What are the best filtertron pickups?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 23, 2013, 09:18:30 PM: Quote from: Marco78 on January 23, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
My ultimate GAS is for a cabronita guitar!! What are the best filtertron pickups?

Well its Tv jones all the way, even gretsch know that and use them on all the high end guitars. This has a classic and classic plus, but they have more options these days. The classic is the closest to the traditional filtertron, but the classic plus is much more versatile whilst still being gretschy.

When Tv jones started they used the filtertron name, I had a filtertron + which is now called the classic plus. oddly, now he works a lot closer with gretsch, they no longer use the filtertron name
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM: There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 23, 2013, 09:53:13 PM: Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

i was actually just thinking how a similar finish would really suit that
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM: Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXejOuvmLWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXejOuvmLWg)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:17:09 PM: Quote from: WezV on January 23, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

i was actually just thinking how a similar finish would really suit that

oooh, indeed!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:19:43 PM: Quote from: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...

That vid prompted me to add it to the black one :)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Telerocker on January 23, 2013, 11:29:05 PM: Nice, what amp?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: gwEm on January 23, 2013, 11:49:19 PM: Quote from: Telerocker on January 23, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Nice, what amp?

Was thinking the same, great 'toanez' in the white TV master clip
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 07:08:20 AM: Quote from: gwEm on January 23, 2013, 11:49:19 PM
Quote from: Telerocker on January 23, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Nice, what amp?

Was thinking the same, great 'toanez' in the white TV master clip

It's a Cornell Romany Plus on the lowest (0.125W) power setting for the whole thing. There may well be a TS 808 in there as well.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Marco78 on January 24, 2013, 08:26:05 AM: Quote from: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXejOuvmLWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXejOuvmLWg)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...

I want this tone!!!! Oh my good!! Powerton is AWESOME!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 10:22:33 AM: Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...

That vid prompted me to add it to the black one :)

You went with a PowerTron Plus though didn't you?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:03:17 AM: Quote from: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...

That vid prompted me to add it to the black one :)

You went with a PowerTron Plus though didn't you?

I'm finding this all very confusing ;)

Just to be clear: is it a normal PowerTron in the video you posted of the White TV Master?

Also: is Wez's lovely Cabronita for you, Juansolo, or neither of you?
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 11:17:26 AM: Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:03:17 AM

I'm finding this all very confusing ;)

Just to be clear: is it a normal PowerTron in the video you posted of the White TV Master?

Also: is Wez's lovely Cabronita for you, Juansolo, or neither of you?

Clarity is a wonderful thing. My pickup, in the white TV Master, is a regular PowerTron, not a PowerTron Plus.

Wez's lovely Cabronita is, sadly, not for me.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:51:37 AM: Thanks for clearing that up Andrew :)

I think Gretsch pickups sound fantastic. But its hard to know how to work the Gretsch look into something I feel I can pull off on stage. They aren't exactly stripped down and metal, though they are nice looking in their own way. Perhaps I like the Billy Bo and also the rectangular ones best.

I may (eventually) put TV Jones' in something - but there again, it needs the right look of the guitar to have them looking good. I know TV Jones do humbucker versions, but a look/project isn't obvious. I have a Gordon Smith V that could be a candidate, but not sure the pickups would seem right in that axe.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 24, 2013, 12:15:40 PM: Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Also: is Wez's lovely Cabronita for you, Juansolo, or neither of you?

neither, although i do have a couple of projects on the go for juan
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Philly Q on January 24, 2013, 02:27:54 PM: Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:51:37 AM
I may (eventually) put TV Jones' in something - but there again, it needs the right look of the guitar to have them looking good. I know TV Jones do humbucker versions, but a look/project isn't obvious. I have a Gordon Smith V that could be a candidate, but not sure the pickups would seem right in that axe.

I'm putting a set in a '72 Thinline Tele.

Well, when I say "I'm putting", I mean that in a theoretical sense, obviously.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 03:51:00 PM: Going back to Wez's Cabronita build.. I think it would look even more awesome in that deep Gretsch orange colour with a black pickguard.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 04:20:40 PM: Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 03:51:00 PM
Going back to Wez's Cabronita build.. I think it would look even more awesome in that deep Gretsch orange colour with a black pickguard.

A bit like:

(http://www.gretsch-talk.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=763&pictureid=7081)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Philly Q on January 24, 2013, 04:27:53 PM: :o

That's so cool!

Is that an actual Fender custom shop guitar? Makes sense, since (I think) they own Gretsch nowadays don't they?

I love that orange colour. I have (here we go again.... :roll: ) a Tele body in sunset orange, but it's not the one which is getting the TV Jones pickups.

(Sorry, that's it, I haven't got any more never-to-materialise Tele projects to go on about now. :oops: )
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 04:29:05 PM: or this:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hquu60.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Telerocker on January 24, 2013, 05:49:47 PM: Stop this: GAS!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 24, 2013, 08:30:57 PM: Quote from: Andrew W on January 24, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Andrew W on January 23, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 09:37:14 PM
There's a Powertron Plus in the TV Master if you fancy a compare and contrast ;)

Or just a regular PowerTron in a different TV Master...

That vid prompted me to add it to the black one :)

You went with a PowerTron Plus though didn't you?

Yup, was a toss up between the two as BFG uses both. Decided to try the slightly hotter one.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on January 24, 2013, 08:33:19 PM: Quote from: WezV on January 24, 2013, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Also: is Wez's lovely Cabronita for you, Juansolo, or neither of you?

neither, although i do have a couple of projects on the go for juan

Indeedy ;)

...as does Martin (MJW) come to think of it :P
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Philly Q on January 24, 2013, 11:01:26 PM: Quote from: gwEm on January 24, 2013, 04:29:05 PM
or this:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hquu60.jpg)

Much as I love Fanos, I definitely prefer the Fender in this case. Not so keen on this TC6.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on January 25, 2013, 08:10:49 AM: i always find arch/carved top tele's look too bloated
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on January 25, 2013, 08:46:07 AM: Quote from: WezV on January 25, 2013, 08:10:49 AM
i always find arch/carved top tele's look too bloated

But a Thinline Tele with those accoutrements... Ooph.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: WezV on February 08, 2013, 09:57:56 AM: all done and with its new owner
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/8450488971_1fa540f6f3_c_zps565c6753.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/8451577002_fed2071724_c_zps1f7985d1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Andrew W on February 08, 2013, 10:07:25 AM: That's a real beauty. Really nicely done, sir.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: dvorak on February 08, 2013, 10:17:09 AM: Absolutely fantastic. Great pups as well!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: juansolo on February 08, 2013, 10:23:34 AM: Spectacular!

Absolutely love that.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Twinfan on February 08, 2013, 11:13:31 AM: Stunning! Love it to bits!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: Telerocker on February 08, 2013, 11:55:04 PM: Yummy guitar, absolute fab!
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: 38thBeatle on February 09, 2013, 12:43:35 PM: Thumbs aloft in a Macca manner from me too.
Title: Re: Cabronita build
Post by: th3sku11 on February 09, 2013, 02:41:16 PM: That's really great. Fantastic work!