Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Marco78 on February 16, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
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Hi, now I have only one guitar, a Fender Stratocaster, so I would to get a LP guitar to have a completely different guitar to cover a lot of genres. I love Warmoth guitars, I have find a neck that fit my hand in awesome way. The LP guitar that I could get (Japanese like Edwards, Tokai and so on) have neck that I did't like (too big and wide).
So is it possible in your opinion use a different guitar (same woods, fixed bridge) to have a similar sound of LP? And are there pickups that can be used in this way?
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Yamaha SG would be next in line to the LP.
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Yamaha SG would be next in line to the LP.
I have had Yamaha SG, but it have the same problem of LP. I want a Warmoth guitar, because I can choose the neck...
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I reckon the neck will be a bolt-on, so that's no glued in like a Les Paul. In any case I would go for mahogany (body and neck). I have a bolt-on all mahogany Saint Blues and I can squeeze some nice Les Paul-tones out of it (Mules in this one).
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I reckon the neck will be a bolt-on, so that's no glued in like a Les Paul. In any case I would go for mahogany (body and neck). I have a bolt-on all mahogany Saint Blues and I can squeeze some nice Les Paul-tones out of it (Mules in this one).
Yes I know, only bolt on neck for Warmoth. :)
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Hi, now I have only one guitar, a Fender Stratocaster, so I would to get a LP guitar to have a completely different guitar to cover a lot of genres. I love Warmoth guitars, I have find a neck that fit my hand in awesome way. The LP guitar that I could get (Japanese like Edwards, Tokai and so on) have neck that I did't like (too big and wide).
So is it possible in your opinion use a different guitar (same woods, fixed bridge) to have a similar sound of LP? And are there pickups that can be used in this way?
Similar? Not really, but that can be compansated with electronics to a certain degree.
I have 3 strats at my home at the moment (3-23 years old guitars) and all of them sound different. The oldest one has the most warm tone (I f***ing love that guitar), but it's still very stratty, in the best sense of the word. The point is that even with different woods, you really don't know what you're going to get before you have the guitar in your hands. You can get a general approximation for sure; a strat: from dull but defined to spanky and piercing; an LP: from muddy and honky to bright and even spanky.
Even with all that, you would probably be quite happy with a Warmoth LP. I have thought about it many times, getting an LP with a bolt-on neck but otherwise the typical mahogany-maple-rosewood specs and an LP scale length. My guesstimate is that it would sound pretty much like a tele on steroids. Punchy, defined, but thick. And with the right electronics, a killer LP tone.
-Zaned
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Even with all that, you would probably be quite happy with a Warmoth LP. I have thought about it many times, getting an LP with a bolt-on neck but otherwise the typical mahogany-maple-rosewood specs and an LP scale length. My guesstimate is that it would sound pretty much like a tele on steroids. Punchy, defined, but thick. And with the right electronics, a killer LP tone.
-Zaned
Unfortunately, Warmoth no longer build LP guitar style. :(
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Unfortunately, Warmoth no longer build LP guitar style. :(
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Mahogany tele-style will get you on the way!
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Mahogany tele-style will get you on the way!
Yes, could be a good alternative.
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Yeah, Warmoth have stopped making Gibson style bodies and necks, apparently after legal threats from Gibson.
You can still get a short-scale (24.75) conversion neck that will work on their standard Fender bodies, or you could try the VIP (PRS style) body - though they are a lot more expensive than most of their bodies.
Some would probably say that the big wide neck of a Les Paul is part of what gives it its distinctive sound. I can't say for certain what effect the shape of a neck has on the tone as I've never tried 2 different necks on the same body, but it seems to make sense that a neck with more mass would have better sustain.
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get a used PRS CE-24 and something warm like crawlers or abraxas
but I gotta tell you my '73 les paul in the pic has a thinner neck than most fenders I've put my hands on
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I used a Warmoth thin neck (.80''/.85'' or 20-21,5 mm) but with 41,2 mm nut witdh. It is perfect for my hand. The "stock" guitar have generally a nut width of 43 mm, that is too big for my hand.
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I used a Warmoth thin neck (.80''/.85'' or 20-21,5 mm) but with 41,2 mm nut witdh. It is perfect for my hand. The "stock" guitar have generally a nut width of 43 mm, that is too big for my hand.
I have long fingers, but my hands feel more comfortable in 41mm too
sorry for the prs recommendation then
I have no idea about the thickness numbers, though
you could buy a "slim taper" type regular les paul (original or copy) and get the neck sanded to proper thickness and shape
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you could buy a "slim taper" type regular les paul (original or copy) and get the neck sanded to proper thickness and shape
Mhhh... But I don't think that is it possible to turn a 43 to 41 mm nud width! And I think that the operation would be VERY expensive...
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I would have a look at Reverend guitars too, as an alternative. They a have a line with glued-in and a line with bolt-ons.
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if you want a les paul why not just get a Gibson Les Paul Studio which are a lot cheaper, they are great guitars for the money
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if you want a les paul why not just get a Gibson Les Paul Studio which are a lot cheaper, they are great guitars for the money
If you read the 3d you understand because I don't want a Gibson!! :D
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I'd look at bolt-on mahogany guitars with a Fender-scale. Here's my Saint Blues to give you an example of a LP-telehybrid. Btw, I had a Gibson Blueshawk (P90-version of the Nighthawk) and that has a very pleasant neck when you're used to strats and tele's.
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If you want something specific why not consider going custom built.
Johnny Mac on this forum had me make him a 25.5" scale Les Paul type guitar - neck was cloned from his Charvel (nice guitar)
Neck dimensions can be whatever you want and the quality is great if using the right builder.
Not a cheap option but very satisfying if you have a good idea what you want.
Prices on LP types start at just over £2000.
This is Johnny's guitar - it had piezo and MIDI too - hence the switches
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/johnny-mac-lion.jpg)
This is the neck joint - easy top fret access
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/johnnymacneckjoint726.jpg)
Here is my own personal slimmer bodied Lion Special
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Feline%20Lion%20Special/FelineLionSpecialbacklit726.jpg)
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IMHO: the scale length (which determines string tension at pitch and thus the resonant frequency of the guitar) will contribute more to making a Les Paul sound like a Les Paul than the neck joint.
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I'd look at bolt-on mahogany guitars with a Fender-scale. Here's my Saint Blues to give you an example of a LP-telehybrid. Btw, I had a Gibson Blueshawk (P90-version of the Nighthawk) and that has a very pleasant neck when you're used to strats and tele's.
Do it have this guitar a 24,75'' neck?
If you want something specific why not consider going custom built.
Johnny Mac on this forum had me make him a 25.5" scale Les Paul type guitar - neck was cloned from his Charvel (nice guitar)
Neck dimensions can be whatever you want and the quality is great if using the right builder.
Not a cheap option but very satisfying if you have a good idea what you want.
Prices on LP types start at just over £2000.
Thanks, but this price isn't for me. ;)
IMHO: the scale length (which determines string tension at pitch and thus the resonant frequency of the guitar) will contribute more to making a Les Paul sound like a Les Paul than the neck joint.
I think that is it true!!
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L'arrivee makes some awesome 25.5" scale Les Paul copies.
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you could buy a "slim taper" type regular les paul (original or copy) and get the neck sanded to proper thickness and shape
Mhhh... But I don't think that is it possible to turn a 43 to 41 mm nud width! And I think that the operation would be VERY expensive...
maybe not, regarding the width, but I'm pretty sure it could be shaved to a comfortable shape and size for your hand
any good luthier could do that and it shouldn't be that expensive, since it doesn't require changing frets or plucking the neck out of the body
it's just sanding and possibly refinishing (if you feel that you really need that)
japanese copies usually have medium to thick necks
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Even with all that, you would probably be quite happy with a Warmoth LP. I have thought about it many times, getting an LP with a bolt-on neck but otherwise the typical mahogany-maple-rosewood specs and an LP scale length. My guesstimate is that it would sound pretty much like a tele on steroids. Punchy, defined, but thick. And with the right electronics, a killer LP tone.
-Zaned
Unfortunately, Warmoth no longer build LP guitar style. :(
They still have some LP necks and bodies in the showcase which they're selling off cheap (... not very cheap). Have you already looked at those? I see most of the necks are Standard Thin, but not with a narrow nut.
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Do it have this guitar a 24,75'' neck?
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It has a Fender-scale and feel. Neck is close to my American Series telecaster.
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maybe not, regarding the width, but I'm pretty sure it could be shaved to a comfortable shape and size for your hand
any good luthier could do that and it shouldn't be that expensive, since it doesn't require changing frets or plucking the neck out of the body
it's just sanding and possibly refinishing (if you feel that you really need that)
japanese copies usually have medium to thick necks
I'll try to ask to my tech... Good ideas!
They still have some LP necks and bodies in the showcase which they're selling off cheap (... not very cheap). Have you already looked at those? I see most of the necks are Standard Thin, but not with a narrow nut.
Yes, I have seen... but there are two problem: all the body are chambered and the neck are horrible, there isn't one with "normal" specs.
It has a Fender-scale and feel. Neck is close to my American Series telecaster.
Ok, thanks!