Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: BWofDOOM on May 06, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
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If anyone has any experience with these pickups in a seven string guitar I would LOVE to hear what you thought of them. I'm looking for plenty of headroom and to be able to get a decent breakup with my fulltone OCD pedal put in front of the amp. So yeah, the guitar I think I want to put them in is an ibanez rgd2127fx. I'm not so much of a metal dude but do they sound ok with overdrive? I use my fender hot rod deluxe for cleaner stuff, and boost it in front with various pedals, primarily the OCD for more rockin', heavy sounds.
So yeah. Does the stormy monday seven string pickup stay pretty clean on a cranked fender? I guess that is my main concern. If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
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They will stay pretty clean, but it depends how cranked. I can get decent clean tones with Mules on a Orange Rockerverb 50 with quite some volume.
However I doubt if Stormies are the best way to go in a sevenstring. Not the tightest of the bunch.
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Which vintage output pickup would you recommend then?
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If you have not already I would send a email to BKP or call em up, they will be able to tell you all you need to know.
I have had only good experiences with the vintage range under gain so far, but this one is a little more being 7 string. Would not be suprised if it would work properly, but again, consult the experts on this one...and get back to us with the results.
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Which vintage output pickup would you recommend then?
Personally I would go Mules or Black Dogs (often recommend for seven strings) which have some extra mids. But as Kiichi says, a sevenstring and vintage pickups needs some pro-recommendation, so I would contact/mail the BKP-team.
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I think forum member keven has a set of Riff Raffs in a 7 string. Might be worth sending him a PM.
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i had a riff raff in my 8 string, was great, although too bright for that particular guitar, this one had a cold sweat, which was too scooped/fizzed, then a riff raff, which was bright (and in my head i still treated this particular plank of mahogany as dark, when it really sounded hollow) and then i went for the black dog 8 and never looked back.
it really depends on how you want the guitar. will you use your 7 string for extended chords or is it mostly a novelty and you'll go a bit crunchy on the low B without going in metal territory, although that's hard to imagine unless you're a jazz freak, which i respect entirely! if you're planning to use it as a standard rock guitar, i'd say the mule/riff raff depending on how bright you want it. vintage output pickups are bright in their own right compared to their overwound counterparts so you also have to account for that. But then, that's the reason they're so popular in Extended Range Guitars... low ouput is nothing a boost can't fix.
as far as vintage gain goes, the riff raff really does the trick, i asked tim about mules, here's part of the conversation
hey tim
i've been spending alot of time with my riff raff loaded 8 string. and maybe you can help me on the final dillemma i have on its tone,
my reference so far is definitely my black dog loaded 7 string. ash body, maple neck and fretboard. 26.5 scale.
i like both guitars individually. but when i play them in a set. the 8 string seems to have alot more midrange than the 7 string. of course the woods are different. mahogany body, set mahogany neck and ebony fretboard. the output and all of the riff raff is perfect, i just think a pickup with less honky mids would be quite perfect for the bridge. am i right in thinking a mule would be a bit cleared, and... dare i say it, more scooped than the riff raff?
thanks for your time! this guitar is proving rather difficult. i think i struck a plank of dead wood so the right pickup is a critical choice. my 7 string's body is lively and resonant. my 8 string sounds bright and hollow... for mahogany.
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Hi Keven
Yes The Mule has a flatter response in the mids while being similar in output.
As you describe the 8 as bright and scooped in theory a mid emphasised pickup like the Riff Raff should balance out that mid so I'm wondering what value pots and cap you're using?
Kindest regards
Tim