Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on June 08, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
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(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/brian.simpson/sgv1.jpg)
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/brian.simpson/sgv2.jpg)
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/brian.simpson/sgv3.jpg)
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/brian.simpson/sgv4.jpg)
Yes, it's a new guitar day. Apparently this guitar was made in 2001 for Vinny Burns of Asia and Dare. It's got a mahogany neck and body.
I already have a lower end SGV which I've become quite fond of since its feels great on stage - easy playing with perfect balance.
This has the same qualities and its been beautifully made I have to say. The feel of the neck is very vintage Gibson, it's meant to have been copied from the original owners favourite 70s Les Paul. I'd prefer it to be a bit more Fendery, but no doubt its a good neck.
Regulars here will know there are a number of key changes I am about to make to this guitar before I start using it seriously.
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Interesting guitar Gareth, and easy to change the pickups! It would be nice to see how much it differs from the other you have and the one I have here.
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Regulars here will know there are a number of key changes I am about to make to this guitar before I start using it seriously.
No serious butchery, though, I hope....
I like these models, the shape and the weird elongated headstock shouldn't work but they really do! Not usually fond of gold hardware either, but it looks good on this guitar. :D
Was it a bargain price?
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Thanks for the comments gents.
It's loaded with a Duncan 59 in the neck and a Distortion in bridge. I was sceptical of this combination, but in fact they work very nicely in the guitar.
The gold hardware works nicely with the black finish I agree.
But I did have some slightly radical plans in mind. I want to refin the body in Olympic white, and fit different styles of pickups. I'd certainly like a strat neck pickup and am pondering the bridge. A P90 would sound great I think, but I wonder about the visual impact of that combo. Then there is the question of pickguard material. Any thoughts on these plans?
I'm happy with the deal that was struck, considering the quality of the instrument - it's got that high end feeling.
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Ooooh....... seems a shame to refinish it, IMO. :(
I think the P-90 plus Strat pickup combo would work, sonically and visually. If the covers were the same colour as the scratchplate they'd "disappear" from a distance, anyway (should you choose that approach).
Black pearl scratchplate with the white finish, maybe? But I still prefer it as it is.
I've only just got the "Heat of the Moment" joke, by the way. :oops:
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very nice :D
p90 and strat neck pickup should work ok tonally, i think (i have a p90/s/s fret king superstrat), but whether it looks as good as the humbuckers, i dunno. the look does "work" at the moment (but may well with p90/s too).
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I just wonder if the p90 looks a bit chunky compared to the genteel strat pickup
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7632/kbr1.jpg)
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Ooooh....... seems a shame to refinish it, IMO. :(
I agree to a certain extent, but I've always thought black guitars usually look naff onstage :?
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I agree to a certain extent, but I've always thought black guitars usually look naff onstage :?
I think you just need an outfit the black guitar would stand out against...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0xevtMUhoeY/URsiNk3jtEI/AAAAAAAAAJg/Av1h7BC5OMI/s1600/justin-bieber-dG-velvet-tux-and-bright-white-kicks3.jpg)
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I really like that guitar a lot. You bought another, yellow one if I remember right, previously? Very cool. I must be honest and say I think I'm with Philly on the colour, I really like this one as it is. If you did change to Olympic white, what would you do with the headstock? Keep as is or white to match?
Also, when are you going to fit the Kahler?
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Philly: :lol: I did an all white stage costume a couple of times, it works well but gets dirty within a few hours
Andrew: that calls for a family photo! In fact the headstock angle is larger on the new black one which surprised me. Playing them back to back acoustically and the black guitar is superior, more sustain and liveliness.
The yellow one is my favourite stage guitar, currently loaded with a dimarzio area 67 in the neck and an SDS in the bridge. The 67 is good, and I like the SDS too, but the top end is rolled off a bit too much and it's a little too compressed. The neck pickup is a smidgen brighter than the bridge which is very handy live with the music I make.
If I do the Olympic white refin, I'd keep the headstock and neck black I think.
The original pickups on these things were quite funny looking but fitted the look of the guitar well - kind of a cross between a P90 and a Jaguar pickup.
Great suggestion on the Kahler! Why didn't I think of that? :-P errmmm...
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I just wonder if the p90 looks a bit chunky compared to the genteel strat pickup
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7632/kbr1.jpg)
Oooh, that looks fab!
For some reason your Yamaha reminds me of this Dali painting...
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I just wonder if the p90 looks a bit chunky compared to the genteel strat pickup
No, I think it looks good.
I do think it would look even better with a P-90 and two Strat pickups, but I'm assuming that's not what you want to do.
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I just wonder if the p90 looks a bit chunky compared to the genteel strat pickup
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7632/kbr1.jpg)
yeah. fwiw i think it looks ok in an p90/S/S setting (maybe because we're used seeing so many HSS guitars?), but yeah with just the single p90 and neck strat single it looks a bit sparse or something.
then again, HS looks pretty good so I dunno. :lol: I guess do some mockups in MS paint or something like that, that's what i always do :lol:
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What about a humbucker sized P90 if you are worried about the bulk?
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Great catch! I like the SGV-shape, it's something different and doesn't look like a metal-axe. I think the P90-stratneckpickup combo fits the extreme body design.
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Great catch! I like the SGV-shape, it's something different and doesn't look like a metal-axe. I think the P90-stratneckpickup combo fits the extreme body design.
Totally agree with this. I think that would work really well.
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Looks kinda Mosrite to me. How about some of the 14k Mosrite pickups?
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Looks kinda Mosrite to me. How about some of the 14k Mosrite pickups?
That is a good idea Elliot. I was also pondering a Jaguar neck since the more unusual look of those pickups could work.
I did a little googling, and some people have had the same idea as you:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w263/sonichris_photos/Project%20Yamaha/100_1061.jpg)
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this luthier 3D printed some special pickup covers. they fit P90-style fender jaguar pickups, and have the same look as the original Yamaha:
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36341&start=135 (http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36341&start=135)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd187/theworkoffire/YamahaSG-3%20Replica/DSC_0674-1.jpg)(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd187/theworkoffire/YamahaSG-3%20Replica/DSC_0678.jpg)
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I guess do some mockups in MS paint or something like that, that's what i always do :lol:
yeah, it may come to that. i'm generally terrible with graphics though so i might get some empty covers and lay them out on the guitar.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/hamfist/Guitar/sgv800-2.jpg)
not a disaster looks-wise either
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^ yeah that or p90s or p90-sized humbuckers all look good. Just dunno if the strat neck pickup will look good :lol:
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Congrats on the NGD. Not my type of guitar though.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/hamfist/Guitar/sgv800-2.jpg)
not a disaster looks-wise either
Are those DiMarzios?
I like all the looks you posted, the Mosrite types and the 3D printed covers.*
(* Is it just me, or is the concept of 3D printing utterly mindblowing? I keep hearing about it, but deep down I don't really believe it exists.... :? )
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The 3D printing is developing quickly. In my town a company can print spectacles, complete with the glasses, just in one shot, without layering. Stunning!
Back to topic: I like the look of those printed covers. Has a sixties vibe.
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Yes, they are dimarzios. Some kind of DLX I assume.
3D printing is definitely mind blowing. There's quite a few clips on YouTube with examples. It seems to take a while to print stuff out, but it seems to work - you can scan stuff in or use a CAD tool. I've only seen it once in real life where the chap was printing some little trinkets.
It starts to have uses when you realise the applications - like the custom pickup covers, or parts for a classic car or something. There would be a database somewhere online for plastic parts and you can send the files off to a 3D print shop, or one day a home 3D printer.
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The 3D printing is developing quickly. In my town a company can print spectacles, complete with the glasses, just in one shot, without layering. Stunning!
Back to topic: I like the look of those printed covers. Has a sixties vibe.
For comparison, some original covers:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/guitars/My_Yamaha_guitars_.jpg)
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Yes, they are dimarzios. Some kind of DLX I assume.
Thinking about it, if those were the stock pickups on that Yamaha, they're probably Q100 pickups (see what they did there? :lol: ), which are the same as the DiMarzio DLX Plus neck model.
I've got a few DLX pickups at home, needless to say I have never got round to using them. One day they will probably end up in some of my MIJ Juniors or Specials, for a slightly more "modern" vibe than the P-90s. That's the plan, anyway....
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^ yeah that or p90s or p90-sized humbuckers all look good. Just dunno if the strat neck pickup will look good :lol:
Yeah, exactly. It's the combo isn't it? My yellow SGV has double strat pickups which looks great though.
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Yes, they are dimarzios. Some kind of DLX I assume.
Thinking about it, if those were the stock pickups on that Yamaha, they're probably Q100 pickups (see what they did there? :lol: ), which are the same as the DiMarzio DLX Plus neck model.
I've got a few DLX pickups at home, needless to say I have never got round to using them. One day they will probably end up in some of my MIJ Juniors or Specials, for a slightly more "modern" vibe than the P-90s. That's the plan, anyway....
That looks like an SGV800 to me, so it would have had these weird shaped P90 like pickups:
(http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/yamaha-sgv800-330803.jpg)
You can kind of see something funny going on with the pickguard at the edge of the DLXs.
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Yeah, exactly. It's the combo isn't it? My yellow SGV has double strat pickups which looks great though.
yeah. it's amazing how much of a difference very small things can make to the aesthetics. I'm still amazed how a different colour pickguard can make the thing look like a totally different guitar :lol:
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Interesting guitar. I like that headstock, between Explorer and ParkerFly.
I know Vinny a bit from Facebook and HugeRacksInc, he's a funny guy with a nice Marshall collection.
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Was just at Jonathan's place and he pointed out to me that the body has a wood cap on it. Probably it's mahogany with a maple cap.
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8) Jonathan and his team at Feline have done a nice pimp job on her haven't they?
She look, plays and sounds exactly to my liking now :)
Pickups are a special set of P90s, with the neck having a Stratocaster sound. The body has been done in Olympic white. There's quite a few other little things that had to be done, but I'm very pleased with the result. Absolutely gorgeous guitar!
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That's quite a big change, but it looks good!
You do like white guitars, don't you? :D
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That's quite a big change, but it looks good!
You do like white guitars, don't you? :D
Yes :D
And except for some rare case (white binding/very large pickguard) I dislike black ones ;)
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I like everything about this guitar err apart from the body :(. It's kind of unbalanced in a distortercaster way but it's
not trying to be humourous.
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I still love it. It's a great looking guitar and I really think the P90s in it. I think Olympic White is my favourite Strat, and therefore by extension, all other solid colour finishes.
Did you consider 3D printing a more SGV800 pickup cover to fit the P90 bobbins underneath? It would be quite doable I reckon.
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nice :D
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Yeah, that looks very nice in white! Besides that, it's a cool shape!
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I think it looks great. Not normally my thing but it looks like a player.
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I still love it. It's a great looking guitar and I really think the P90s in it. I think Olympic White is my favourite Strat, and therefore by extension, all other solid colour finishes.
Did you consider 3D printing a more SGV800 pickup cover to fit the P90 bobbins underneath? It would be quite doable I reckon.
I did consider that yes. But there are a few SGVs around with straight P90s and it looks good, so I decided to keep it simple.
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I think it looks great. Not normally my thing but it looks like a player.
Thanks! I found almost by chance with the other SGV I have that the shape is perfectly balanced and feels good live. When I saw the stop tail one I knew I had to go for it, even if it was the wrong colour.
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Happy NGD!
Cool looking guitar, never seen one before