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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2006, 11:02:33 PM

Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 05, 2006, 11:02:33 PM
This clip came out rather well; it's the closest I've come to digitally capturing  the actual tone of the Splawn Quick Rod at close range.

Once again, it's my VHII-loaded Strat with zero effects.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BUXblAO80Rg
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: sambo on March 05, 2006, 11:05:11 PM
corr blimey! amazing crunch but still really tight and clear. that sounds excellent! how much do these 'splawns' cost lol... waaaaaay out of my price range of course but just out of curiosity...
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: _tom_ on March 05, 2006, 11:22:49 PM
That sounds amazing. With a touch more bass I'd be in love with the tone!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: sambo
corr blimey! amazing crunch but still really tight and clear. that sounds excellent! how much do these 'splawns' cost lol... waaaaaay out of my price range of course but just out of curiosity...

http://www.splawnguitars.com/amps_products.htm

The new amp, The Competition, is only $1,300 USD!!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 12:43:27 AM
Quote from: _tom_
That sounds amazing. With a touch more bass I'd be in love with the tone!

The cabs I use have reeeally tight bass. I'm thinking, with a different cab (or an EQ), you can probably get more 'thunk' from the amp. I prefer a leaner tone, old school tone, which is what you hear. I've heard more low end from the Splawn cabs, too ...
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: willo on March 06, 2006, 12:57:50 AM
Looking at your recent clips, TO, would you say you are using your VHII strat more than your other guitars now? Is that the 'main' guitar/amp setup now - VHII-->Splawn?
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: sambo on March 06, 2006, 08:17:58 AM
wow that competition head looks wicked! how do splawns compare with say a marshall in the same price bracket? (if we're talking about the quick rod that is)
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: _tom_ on March 06, 2006, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: sambo
corr blimey! amazing crunch but still really tight and clear. that sounds excellent! how much do these 'splawns' cost lol... waaaaaay out of my price range of course but just out of curiosity...

http://www.splawnguitars.com/amps_products.htm

The new amp, The Competition, is only $1,300 USD!!


ONLY $1,300  :roll:  :lol: I bet it does sound awesome though, if yours is anything to go by.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: willo
Looking at your recent clips, TO, would you say you are using your VHII strat more than your other guitars now? Is that the 'main' guitar/amp setup now - VHII-->Splawn?

Nah, that's just the way it works out sometimes.
The other guitar in the vid, the green Kamikaze, is my main writing guitar.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 06, 2006, 02:03:03 PM
What's the gain like on these amps, compared to a 5150  or similar for example? Do they have plenty?
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: Andy Lindsay
What's the gain like on these amps, compared to a 5150  or similar for example? Do they have plenty?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here.  The Splawn is a modded Marshall lover's dream amp. It has plenty of gain for what I do. I've never compared it to a 5150, so I couldn't tell you.  That clip is played on the middle gain voicing. There is one setting more that has additional gain, but I would only use that for tracking solos, not riff-work.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Ratrod on March 06, 2006, 05:48:09 PM
Sounds great. But still I agree with the others about the bass. A riff raff SG and a bit more bass in the EQ would nail that old AC/DC tone.

What you have now is a great old skool Maiden type of tone.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 06, 2006, 05:49:03 PM
No, it's not very clear is it..haha. I was referring to the amount of gain on tap.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 06, 2006, 06:08:54 PM
Sounds great Ben! The neck on your Strat looks like its getting some use, is that the Gajic neck?

That video of those two blokes having a punch up, is that Igor from your band or is that a coincidence?!!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 06:21:09 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
Sounds great. But still I agree with the others about the bass. A riff raff SG and a bit more bass in the EQ would nail that old AC/DC tone.

Okay, sooo ... ?

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What you have now is a great old skool Maiden type of tone.

Okay, sooo ... ?

LOL!  :twisted:
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Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 06, 2006, 06:22:14 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Sounds great Ben! The neck on your Strat looks like its getting some use, is that the Gajic neck?

No, the neck is in the UK at the moment. That's the original Fender neck.

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That video of those two blokes having a punch up, is that Igor from your band or is that a coincidence?!!

Know nothing about it.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: March on March 06, 2006, 07:08:28 PM
Sounds great. When you got to the chorus I though I was listening to Afterlife by Dream Theater - the tone and chords made me do a double take!
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Post by: indysmith on March 06, 2006, 08:45:59 PM
didn't like the tone tbh. wheres the bass at dude?
It crunched nicely, but other than that it really didnt sound that exciting to me :? sorry, lol - i feel bad now :cry:
hey- the playing was great :lol:  8)
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 07, 2006, 03:20:07 AM
Quote from: indysmith
d i feel bad now :cry:
hey- the playing was great :lol:  8)

YOU SHOULD! LOL

To each his own, man.
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Post by: lulusg on March 07, 2006, 10:35:02 AM
That is the Competition head  I ordered december 29th, and it was here three weeks later. Scott Splawn managed to get the picture on his site(that's the one), before sending it to me. The 2x12 cab arrived at the end of february. Except for the usual peaking, everything is pretty much inside their boxes, waiting to be open. To tell you the truth if you ask me for a glass of water it will take me two weeks to get back at you. That's how busy this time of the year it gets. Ben thanks for passing around the Splawn info. Like your avatar says "TONE". That is the ultimate.:)
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Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 07, 2006, 01:38:35 PM
Hey, glad you went with the Splawn!!!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Andy RV on March 07, 2006, 02:08:02 PM
Sounds great!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Tellboy on March 07, 2006, 06:58:16 PM
Very interesting reading the very different comments on Ben's tone. Confirms what I said in one of Willo's posts about tone - "one man's tone is another man's poison."

What I think will be VERY interesting is the 240 clips of the various BK pickups which Tim will be adding to the new site.  Tim will probably have recorded them either through his Marshall or Engl Screamer. Any bets they will sound different to the many digital clips in the Players section - dispite having tried Pod, Black Box, Guitar Rig, Amplitube etc. I just don't think they give a true representation of what the guitar/pickup produces in a 'live' situation (always seems to be something missing) . I appreciate that they are a very quick convenient way of recording a clip and many players will not have access to a suitable amp/mike setup but I would never buy a pickup or guitar based on a clip recorded on a digital amp simulator.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: sambo on March 07, 2006, 07:07:56 PM
yer your right mate- i would never buy a pup because of any recordings i heard not just digital stuff. there were virtually no clips of the BKP p-90s when i bought mine i just took a risk. but i agree with you about digital stuff not giving a true representation and also that digital stuff is easier and cheaper.
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Post by: Johnny Mac on March 07, 2006, 08:03:40 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: indysmith
d i feel bad now :cry:
hey- the playing was great :lol:  8)

YOU SHOULD! LOL

To each his own, man.


+1!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 07, 2006, 08:14:11 PM
Quote from: Tellboy
Very interesting reading the very different comments on Ben's tone. Confirms what I said in one of Willo's posts about tone - "one man's tone is another man's poison."

What I think will be VERY interesting is the 240 clips of the various BK pickups which Tim will be adding to the new site.  Tim will probably have recorded them either through his Marshall or Engl Screamer. Any bets they will sound different to the many digital clips in the Players section - dispite having tried Pod, Black Box, Guitar Rig, Amplitube etc. I just don't think they give a true representation of what the guitar/pickup produces in a 'live' situation (always seems to be something missing) . I appreciate that they are a very quick convenient way of recording a clip and many players will not have access to a suitable amp/mike setup but I would never buy a pickup or guitar based on a clip recorded on a digital amp simulator.


Good point Tellboy! I'm looking forawrd to hearing them all too.

To record using a valve amp, one easy way is to just run them through an attenuator with a line out to a recording device, only a bit more than a digital thingy amd miles better!
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: sambo on March 07, 2006, 08:37:41 PM
good idea johnny but then you still need 'recorder device' even if you did get an attenuator instead of a digital thingy!
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Post by: Johnny Mac on March 07, 2006, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: sambo
good idea johnny but then you still need 'recorder device' even if you did get an attenuator instead of a digital thingy!


Well you would anyway wouldn't you?
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Post by: sambo on March 07, 2006, 10:30:48 PM
no because the 'digital thingy' IS the recorder device...
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: Ratrod on March 08, 2006, 09:49:38 AM
+1 on the tube amp recordings. But still, as soon as the recording is converted to MP3, half the actual sound is gone. It's just a rough indication of the pickup's sound.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 08, 2006, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
+1 on the tube amp recordings. But still, as soon as the recording is converted to MP3, half the actual sound is gone.

More like 90-95% of the bitrate.

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It's just a rough indication of the pickup's sound.

AT BEST.
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Post by: Johnny Mac on March 08, 2006, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: sambo
no because the 'digital thingy' IS the recorder device...


Well i meant something like a pod digital thingy, you would still have to hook that up to a recording device.
Title: FINALLY close to getting the actual tone of the SPLAWN !!!
Post by: sambo on March 08, 2006, 04:54:21 PM
ahhhh a pod digital thingys not what i was thinking of....

the little zoom things that we mentioned can record as well as just supplying effects...

but yer with something like a pod you would still need a recording device as well...