Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: ericsabbath on July 06, 2013, 10:40:26 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/FUJIGEN-FGN-NCLS-20R-HS-Neo-Classic-Limited-Edition-HARD-STYLE-Les-Paul-/281117578187 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FUJIGEN-FGN-NCLS-20R-HS-Neo-Classic-Limited-Edition-HARD-STYLE-Les-Paul-/281117578187?pt=Guitar&hash=item4173e9d3cb)
dammit, I've been checking this 5x a day for a week
too bad I can't afford it right now :(
this deserves a 10th anniversary set
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FUJIGEN-FGN-NCLS-20R-HS-Neo-Classic-Limited-Edition-HARD-STYLE-Les-Paul-/00/s/Njc1WDkwMA==/z/ha4AAOxyFrNRrwv5/$(KGrHqFHJ!0FGm-u1GUwBRrwv5MePw~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FUJIGEN-FGN-NCLS-20R-HS-Neo-Classic-Limited-Edition-HARD-STYLE-Les-Paul-/00/s/Njc1WDkwMA==/z/i4QAAMXQ855RrwwH/$(KGrHqZHJBYFBUkrDBheBRrwwHjSU!~~60_57.JPG)
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That indeed is pretty nice, especially for that price!
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'orrid dentist top, though ;-p
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They're good quality, I read. Goodlooking LP.
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I've never tried any actual FGN branded guitars, but Fujigen guitars are excellent, really well made. I see it has the "CFS" system, didn't know they were still using it.
I'm not sure it's that much of a bargain, though, unless it's a particularly high spec model. Add import charges and shipping costs onto that and you're probably getting close to £1,250 (I don't know what import costs are like in Brazil, I believe they're pretty high?)
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Really beautiful guitar. I wish I was rich :D
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I've never tried any actual FGN branded guitars, but Fujigen guitars are excellent, really well made. I see it has the "CFS" system, didn't know they were still using it.
I'm not sure it's that much of a bargain, though, unless it's a particularly high spec model. Add import charges and shipping costs onto that and you're probably getting close to £1,250 (I don't know what import costs are like in Brazil, I believe they're pretty high?)
+1
it seems to have a flamed veneer on top of plain maple. doesn't sound high spec at all, really. Now- being japanese it's probably still a really good guitar (like you, I've tried guitars made in the fujigen factory, mainly MIJ ibanezes, but no actual FGN-branded guitars), but that doesn't mean you want to pay way over the odds for it, either... :lol:
I mean I paid about a third of that for my edwards. which has the same pickups, lacquer top coat and everything (though the FGN might have an aluminium bridge). Granted, it's not 100% MIJ and I'm guessing the FGN is, but still.
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The nearest comparisons I've owned, which are basically the same guitar, from the same factory, would be my Signature LP and Epiphone Japan LP Standard.
The Signature had a quilt veneer top, no nitro finish and was pretty cheap (a bargain, for sure). The Epi has a slightly higher spec than the Sig, with a "lacquer"/nitro top coat and a plain solid maple top (no veneer, no posh flame/quilt figuring). It doesn't have Seymour Duncans but, of course, it does legitimately carry the "Les Paul" name on the headstock. That one did cost quite a lot, but I'm sure I paid way too much for it! :roll: :lol:
Neither has the "Circle Fretting System", though, I don't know how much that adds to the value (or the complexity of the build).
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me neither :lol:
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well, this is a higher spec model and in a limited colour
and the CFS system seems quite interesting
edwards are going for about US$1000 being built in china and only assembled in japan and have a mixed poly/nitro finish
a japan made fernandes or navigator are going for almost US$4000 new
a vintage greco eg1000 or 1200 are going up over $2000
so even considering the veneer thing, I wouldn't say that's overpriced for todays japan market standards
about the same as a new tokai ls98 and less than a ls140q
those tokais and most of the others have veneer tops as well
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That is very pretty indeed! Do want!!
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well, this is a higher spec model and in a limited colour
and the CFS system seems quite interesting
edwards are going for about US$1000 being built in china and only assembled in japan and have a mixed poly/nitro finish
a japan made fernandes or navigator are going for almost US$4000 new
a vintage greco eg1000 or 1200 are going up over $2000
so even considering the veneer thing, I wouldn't say that's overpriced for todays japan market standards
about the same as a new tokai ls98 and less than a ls140q
those tokais and most of the others have veneer tops as well
well sure (that one has a mixed poly/nitro finish too), but I mean if you ask me, the biggest reason for going MIJ (and I'm a total MIJ fan, like philly) pretty much doesn't exist any more (high quality guitars for really good prices), which sucks :(
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well sure (that one has a mixed poly/nitro finish too), but I mean if you ask me, the biggest reason for going MIJ (and I'm a total MIJ fan, like philly) pretty much doesn't exist any more (high quality guitars for really good prices), which sucks :(
Yeah, I was looking at how much some of my more recently-acquired MIJ guitars had cost me and realised they were actually pretty stupidly expensive! Of course I knew that at the time, but I was in the throes of GAS.... :?
That said, my '80s Burny LP Junior has a spec and build quality which is, genuinely, on a par with Gibson Custom (apart from pickup, electronics and nitro finish), and it was not much more than a third of the price. So MIJ can still be (relatively) very good value.
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I like my Epiphone Tribute +. What a great guitar for peanuts. :)
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Yeah, I was looking at how much some of my more recently-acquired MIJ guitars had cost me and realised they were actually pretty stupidly expensive! Of course I knew that at the time, but I was in the throes of GAS.... :?
That said, my '80s Burny LP Junior has a spec and build quality which is, genuinely, on a par with Gibson Custom (apart from pickup, electronics and nitro finish), and it was not much more than a third of the price. So MIJ can still be (relatively) very good value.
Oh yeah, i mean you can still get good deals if you shop around/hold out for a good deal/find somewhere with new old stock (new) or go second-hand. Just the everyday going rate on new ones is getting a bit silly, if you ask me. I mean I went gibson with my last guitar (SG standard) because it was actually cheaper than a new MIJ tokai :lol:
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I mean I went gibson with my last guitar (SG standard) because it was actually cheaper than a new MIJ tokai :lol:
And in that instance, I think you've probably got a better guitar anyway. Unless it was one of the real top of the line Tokais (SG-175 or whatever it is now).
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Nah it was cheaper than the cheapest MIJ tokai, the USG-75 or whatever it is.
And yeah, I think so. Aside from maybe the short neck tenon and the 300k pots (and possibly laminated rosewood fretboard :lol: ), I suppose. But yeah it does seem to be a nice guitar, I was cacking it before it came as I know all about Gibson's QC :lol: I made the calculated risk that all the iffy ones I'd tried before had been the cheaper models and that hopefully a standard would be ok (since they're plekked now, too, far as I'm aware).
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Nah it was cheaper than the cheapest MIJ tokai, the USG-75 or whatever it is.
:o That really shows how much MIJ prices have gone up, five years ago I got an SG-75 for under £500, which was (I think) a good £250 less than an SG Standard at the time.
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Admittedly I did get a really good price on the SG from a shop in dublin- £600. They were blowing out the 2012 models- that price difference wouldn't really hold for the 2013 SG standards which seem to be closer to the £1000 mark :lol: But yeah at the time I got my Gibson (just after the new year) the cheapest MIJ Tokai I could see was £650 (and it didn't have a case). :lol: