Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Alex on July 30, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
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I've become painfully aware of how bad my playing is. All this time I've been thinking of pickup changes, buying some pedals or getting the Laney Ironheart studio amp... when what I really need to is practice more. Well, I've been trying to learn Ozzy Osbourne's Crazy Train... and... the main solo is soooo hard. Even if I hit the right notes, I'm nowhere near the fluidity. No gear change is going to change that... :( I guess my message here is that if GAS seems to be getting to you, just try and learn a new, really difficult song. It will go away!
And Rhandy Rhoads really was an awesome player, such a shame he passed away so soon. I don't know which song to learn after that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE)
I've even looked into Michael Angelo's Version, as he doesn't tap the solo... but it's even harder that way to get it smooth (at 3:15).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CELTF0cIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CELTF0cIo)
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Learn Diary, Tonight, Little Dolls or Mr Crowley next.
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I guess my message here is that if GAS seems to be getting to you, just try and learn a new, really difficult song. It will go away!
Or just give in to the GAS and learn songs another day! :P
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"I hit about 50,000 other notes ..."
I find MAB really hard to take seriously. The wig doesn't help, but really it's just his whole attitude.
The difference between RR and MAB is that RR was a tasteful player.
And I totally agree that GAS often originates in frustrations that have more to do with the connections between brain and hands than anything to do with your instrument
I should also add that it might be the case that part of the issue is anxiety. An anxious player is never a fluid one! Just let go of the expectations and standards you are placing on yourself and keep plugging away at it.
Personally I think that if you are doing a half-decent job of a RR solo with just a few 'fluidity' issues you must be already a very good player. I don't even contemplate trying to play his solos at the moment, as they are completely beyond my ability. But I think that at whatever level your ability fear is the mindkiller (I think this is a quote from the novel Dune). Much better to keep plugging away as you are doing than give in to GAS etc
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I find batio's far more entertaining lol really want to see him though without the wig!
yeah rhoads was a genius good on you for learning some of the solos, I can play the riffs but not really the solos.
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Oh my, Batio is just a well practiced hack... horrible.
And when heard next to Randy an absolute master he's shameful. PDT_038
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I've got an old album called "Little Monsters" by a band called Holland, featuring a certain Mike Batio on guitar. They were a pretty odd looking bunch (is that Klaus Nomi on drums?) but I don't think Batio had a wig then. Or any silly multi-neck guitars.
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He was in a band called 'Holland'?
Isn't that like naming your band 'Boring'?
(I love holland really)
Does Batio ever play in a band any more? All i see of him online is him jamming at NAMM or playing along to a backing track somewhere, dressed up like a evil disco dancer.
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Seems like Holland was the last name of the vocalist.
MAB seems to have been wearing a wig since Nitro, which was a VERY long time ago (second from right).
The goofballl with the blonde wig ended up married to Lita Ford. For some reason she ended up with him rather than Tony Iommi. Ouch
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RfDFnMUDOYc/Te461hTq1XI/AAAAAAAAASc/dm0t5aOXVo0/s1600/nitro_hair.jpg)
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The goofballl with the blonde wig ended up married to Lita Ford. For some reason she ended up with him rather than Tony Iommi. Ouch
Then, I believe, there was a rather acrimonious divorce.
And of course Iommi ended up with Maria Sjoholm.
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fear is the mindkiller (I think this is a quote from the novel Dune).
Bravo 8)
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain.
Oh my, Batio is just a well practiced hack... horrible.
And when heard next to Randy an absolute master he's shameful. PDT_038
Yup Batio is a $%&#ing travesty
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Yeah, MAB is defintely a weird character, but seems a friendly guy. Too bad for him that in the end it is still about the song and not how fast he can shred.
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Ignoring all the MAB talk before I join in to mock his wig: GAS is really just a distraction. I often find myself thinking about getting new stuff although I actually have everything I'll ever need instead of just sitting down and practicing. Heck if I only had my Micro Terror Head + the small PPC 108 cab with the Bad Monkey and my first guitar, it would be enough. :lol:
I found a good way to ignore it though: just sit down and practice everytime GAS hits you. Save a 100 quid every once in a while putting it somewhere you're not urged to grab em the next day again and eventually over the course of time you'll have enough cash to make a decent purchase whilst you're not rushing to get some cheap stuff you eventually will never need. It's just letting go of the thought that it could always be better, it's your fingers that do the talking, gear is just 10%. It's hard, but it can work ^^
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I've become painfully aware of how bad my playing is. All this time I've been thinking of pickup changes, buying some pedals or getting the Laney Ironheart studio amp... when what I really need to is practice more. Well, I've been trying to learn Ozzy Osbourne's Crazy Train... and... the main solo is soooo hard. Even if I hit the right notes, I'm nowhere near the fluidity. No gear change is going to change that... :( I guess my message here is that if GAS seems to be getting to you, just try and learn a new, really difficult song. It will go away!
And Rhandy Rhoads really was an awesome player, such a shame he passed away so soon. I don't know which song to learn after that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE)
I've even looked into Michael Angelo's Version, as he doesn't tap the solo... but it's even harder that way to get it smooth (at 3:15).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CELTF0cIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CELTF0cIo)
I get that, I realized GAS was a distraction when i was forced to teach and play on a cheap in-store jay turser guitar for a while as a means of promoting the brand. with the right approach and technique adjusments i could sound just as convincing as with my other gear for the students. of course in the long run some tiny details are lacking but it proved to me the saying that ''tone is in the fingers''. ever since then i get a kick out of taking import guitars and upgrading them to milk just about every inch of tone out of them, in a very personal and unique way.
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He took everything that made Randys playing special and just sped it up into generic, overplayed, shreder (sp?) cr@p (I do like some shred btw).
His tone wasn't totally awful though. I wonder what he was playing through as neither of the amps behind him were switched on by the looks of it :lol:
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one of my recent GAS related problems is that now I'm not only obsessed with guitar gear but recording gear too, mics, preamps desks and audio related stuff. It's equally enticing and one must be careful not to let it suck you in! since reading this post though I have been improving my technique and playing more every time I feel the GAS creep in lol it's made me realise how much time I was wasting looking at gear e.t.c.
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one of my recent GAS related problems is that now I'm not only obsessed with guitar gear but recording gear too, mics, preamps desks and audio related stuff. It's equally enticing and one must be careful not to let it suck you in! since reading this post though I have been improving my technique and playing more every time I feel the GAS creep in lol it's made me realise how much time I was wasting looking at gear e.t.c.
I have a similar problem with recording gear as I am a hobby sound tech, doing live and home studio things in varying dimensions (biggest thing I have mixed live had up to a few million hits on youtube on some tracks).
Thankfully I found something that cured me to a good part of the recording gear GAS. Imho the most important thing is a good pair of speakers or in my case headphones (Beyerdynamic DT880s do the trick for me) is the single most important thing. If the rest is not utter cr@p that is what you really need imho.
What makes me say this is Sufjan Stevens. He did a wonderful wondeful album called Illinois, which he recorded with a 32khz 8 track and a Shure SM57 and AKG C1000. Pretty low fi stuff actually...or affordable shall we call it. Still the result he got out of it blows my mind. The mixing work he did is masterful in my ears, especially for the gear used and of course his arrangement skills which are out of this world do a lot too.
Quick youtube example http://youtu.be/pBMwwJMkcRA (http://youtu.be/pBMwwJMkcRA)
He really made me determined to get all out of my gear I possibly can, which is a Steinberg UR28M, a Sennheiser E906 mic, an old Shure 545L which still has a jack out (love the sweet sound of this thing), a MXL V69 tube condenser which I modded and my Beyerdynamics DT880 headphones.
Since I had this little revelation I really got a lot more out of these.
I really donīt feel I need anything else right now, besides maybe some of the cheaper ADAM monitor speakers, but even that is not pressing.
This really is different to instrument and amp GAS since those influence your playing, but with recording gear you need good ears, skill and equipment you can work with, but that does not have to be expensive by any means.
Not to say that a super expensive Neumann mic is not amazing, it is and things like the high quality recorded "Peter Gabriel - Scratch my back" is glorious, but I personally really wanne master the low end first here. Maybe it stems from what I learned by doing live work, which is that it is important to make everything sound good, no matter how $%&#ed up the situation or gear is. Saw a lot of seemingly capable people fail on the low end...
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That mix really sounds amazing :o
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That mix really sounds amazing :o
Concidering the way it was recorded or in general?^^
Plus I just had a look at the Wikipedia page and saw myself for the first time what he is credited with on the album:
"acoustic guitar; piano; Wurlitzer; bass guitar; drums; electric guitar; oboe; alto saxophone; flute; banjo; glockenspiel; accordion; vibraphone; alto, sopranino, soprano, and tenor recorders; Casiotone MT-70; sleigh bells; shaker; tambourine; triangle; electronic organ; vocals; arrangement; engineering; recording; production"
He did not master it though xD And of course there were other musicians involved, but the lionshare of everything seems to have been done by him.
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Everything really. It seems that every instrument has enough room to breathe adding up to the whole wall of sound. Sounds very open yet full :)
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it's very very good arranging though, and music, that's why it sounds so good, mics then become irrelevant in some ways, the AKG C1000 is a very good mic for the money as well, I remember it sounding superb at a mates house in his studio. He used a roland 8 track with a ZIP card that had a file space in megabytes....kids don't realise these days how easy it is lol we used to have to bounce down tracks constantly, it was good fun.
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GAS is a pleasant distraction from practicing. Once I got some new toy, it inspires me to practice and play different things. So, GAS is good.
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GAS is a pleasant distraction from practicing. Once I got some new toy, it inspires me to practice and play different things. So, GAS is good.
Still I'm glad I'm not a millionare, otherwise I would have bought every music store in my town, everything BKP has to offer including many other brands, moving into a house somewhere in the desert on a tone quest lasting years :lol:
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GAS is a pleasant distraction from practicing. Once I got some new toy, it inspires me to practice and play different things. So, GAS is good.
Still I'm glad I'm not a millionare, otherwise I would have bought every music store in my town, everything BKP has to offer including many other brands, moving into a house somewhere in the desert on a tone quest lasting years :lol:
Why in the desert?
Las Vegas, maybe? That's in the desert....
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Why in the desert?
Las Vegas, maybe? That's in the desert....
That's what I actually meant :lol:
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MAB looks like Nigel Tuffnel in that vid.
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MAB looks like Nigel Tuffnel in that vid.
But does he go up to eleven?