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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: dingleberry on August 15, 2013, 08:21:17 PM

Title: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: dingleberry on August 15, 2013, 08:21:17 PM
During my research came across this, not sure if many have seen it yet

black dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFjbc9Zs_8
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFjbc9Zs_8)

aftermath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkBYf_uPXdo
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkBYf_uPXdo)

c-pig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PqHFlHUlkc
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PqHFlHUlkc)

c-bomb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmqKkq3eP1s
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmqKkq3eP1s)

vhii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvVFLQ-KKeQ
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvVFLQ-KKeQ)

c-hawk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8_smW7VDMA
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8_smW7VDMA)

rebel yell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haMioxqha3A
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haMioxqha3A)
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Kiichi on August 15, 2013, 08:25:57 PM
This looks very promising, will give it a look later, donīt have the time right now.

The sampling range is great, should yield interresting info.
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Dave Sloven on August 15, 2013, 10:04:40 PM
Out of those the following would be my top three:

1. Rebel Yell
2. VHII
3. C-Pig

RY out in front by a margin.

A lot of the ceramic pickups sound very similar to me in this test.  I would probably put the C-bomb at #4, but the C-Pig was more distinctive.  I think that these riffs maybe didn't showcase the best aspects of some of these pickups, such as the Black Dog, and was more suited to comparing the ceramic pickups, but then again it made them all sound a bit 'samey'
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Toe-Knee on August 15, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
but then again it made them all sound a bit 'samey'

That was the modeller....

Whilst entertaining these kind of comparisons are pretty useless due to the modeller masking most differences. It doesn't help with how high in the mix the kick is too its masking the attack on the chugs
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Dave Sloven on August 16, 2013, 12:43:52 AM
If you watch each clip through there are three sections.

1. with drums and a second guitar (PRS with aftermath)
2. with drums and no second guitar
3. by itself

Even comparing 3 with 3 I found a lot of the ceramic ones kind of samey.  SGs have a distinctive sound that combined with the scooped, bassy C-pig might have made it stand out more, but in general I found the alnico pickups more lively.  I quite like the Black Dog when you can hear it by itself but again I don't think that style of riffing brings out its character very well.  It's something you'd play if you wanted to show off the capabilities of the Aftermath, rather than something like the Black Dog.
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: richard on August 16, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
The tone used for all the demos was so unbelievably awful that it didn't matter what pickups were in any of those guitars.
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Toe-Knee on August 16, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
If you watch each clip through there are three sections.

1. with drums and a second guitar (PRS with aftermath)
2. with drums and no second guitar
3. by itself


I couldn't put up with the tone for that long :D
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 16, 2013, 09:39:29 PM
The tone used for all the demos was so unbelievably awful that it didn't matter what pickups were in any of those guitars.

+1!

It needs to be more neutral to sound correct, he has boosted a lot of treble in the mastering which ruins the balance...where are the mids? and he needs to use the same guitar and amp and just change the p/up for it to be a fair test.
Title: Re: Newish pickup shootout
Post by: Telerocker on August 16, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
It prooves again that YT is ok for an indication, but often no more than that.