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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Tricalibur on March 08, 2006, 01:34:28 AM

Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Tricalibur on March 08, 2006, 01:34:28 AM: Which do you guys like better and why? Personaly im undecide and hoped that yall could shed some light on the similarites/differences.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: tewboss on March 08, 2006, 01:39:33 AM: I'm not sure if Kahler are easy to get hold of having read an interview with the Judas Priest guitarists (who love the Kahler)
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: indysmith on March 08, 2006, 07:54:36 AM: never played a kahler...
I'm actually really into the Ibanez ZR trem at the moment - ingenius piece of kit! read about it... try it....!
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Elliot on March 08, 2006, 08:42:43 AM: classic fender synchronised tremolo
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Kilby on March 08, 2006, 08:49:20 AM: Quote from: tewboss
I'm not sure if Kahler are easy to get hold of having read an interview with the Judas Priest guitarists (who love the Kahler)

They are back in production again.

Rob...
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Ratrod on March 08, 2006, 09:43:00 AM: I voted Kahler. They look nice and I like 'em better for palm muting. + it's the original divebomb vibrato.

Still, my all time favorite vibrato system is the Bigsby.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Neemo on March 08, 2006, 09:46:23 AM: I like floyd rose, kahler seems to need a lot more attention cuz you have to oil it and clean it every once in a while. Floyd is more of a "set and forget" kinda tremolo.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: maliciousteve on March 08, 2006, 10:14:05 AM: I'm undecided. The Kahler has a very smooth feel to it, it feels like there's less tension pulling on the bridge when dive bombing and such, unlike the floyd rose. But the floyd rose doesn't require oiling and constant attention. Kahler's are also very expensive.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 08, 2006, 12:12:09 PM: They're both good bridges. I prefer OFRs, but I've played Kahler'd guitars and didn't have any problem with em.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 08, 2006, 12:26:35 PM: I like Floyds but only the Floyd Rose original like Twilight Odyssey says.
I also like the Ibanez Edge and Lo Pro Edge
Some Gotoh ones are ok too

Cheap Floyd copies are awful- lack all the good bits that make a Floyd a Floyd

Kahlers are cool but they are so softly sprung that I never got on with thm years ago - may be different now that I have matured a bit
(I was also only keen to have what George Lynch and Eddie used anyway at the time - so I was a bit biased)
Kahlers are rather wonderful bits of engineering though!
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: blue on March 08, 2006, 12:38:54 PM: well, i voted floyd. i have used them a lot more which is probably why, when i finally tried a Kahler, i just didn't like it. i agree with Feline (Johnathon?) that they're fabulous pieces of engineering, but i still prefer my awkward, cantankerous old Floyds!
anyone tried a speedloader?
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 08, 2006, 12:51:14 PM: Quote from: blue
anyone tried a speedloader?

Yes; mechanically, it's great; feels like an OFR.
String-wise, you're screwed, unless you like Ernie Ball. PDT_008
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Dakine on March 08, 2006, 01:46:33 PM: Voted OFR
but my Schaeller is fine but even better is my Vintage Trem on the Ernie Ball. It is NOT locking but holds tuning amazingly!
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Kilby on March 08, 2006, 01:54:20 PM: I went for the Floyd rose because thats what I own.

I have read that the Kahler kills the sustain (more so than the floyd) any thoughts on the matter ?

Rob...
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: Ratrod on March 08, 2006, 05:01:03 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: blue
anyone tried a speedloader?

Yes; mechanically, it's great; feels like an OFR.
String-wise, you're screwed, unless you like Ernie Ball. PDT_008

Can you do alternative tunings with a speedloader?

I like the look of the headstocks without tuners.
Title: Tremolos: Kahler vs. Floyd
Post by: jt on March 08, 2006, 11:49:10 PM: :D Khaler.. The OFR is good but i bar-steward for string changing & it takes longer for the Tuning to settle down after string changes. The Khaler was a dodle to re-string.

As for the Khaler killing the sustain sorry it`s a myth. polite way of saying "Complete B*ll*cks" !! :P

The problem is the Khaler cost a fortune, i think i`m right in saying there about £200 -£300.

:D 8)