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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: froglord on March 08, 2006, 08:52:52 PM

Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 08, 2006, 08:52:52 PM
I'm mainly a fingerstyle player, but use a pick some of the time too. I was wondering about trying a hybrid style using a thumbpick plus index, middle and ring fingers - a kind of "best of both worlds".

I've had a go with a Dunlop thumbpick before, but it was a really unwieldy thing and I found I couldn't really do upstrokes with it.

What I need is a thumbpick which behaves pretty much like a normal pick. Any of you guys found one that fits the bill?
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 08, 2006, 08:55:29 PM
me and my guitar teacher were talking about this- how thumnpicks suck cause of the limitations- theyre stuck at the same 90 degree angle.... we were gonna make one with like velcro or something that wrapped round your finger (probably middle finder or thumb) then it wouldnt be in the way for tapping and youd have extra stability....

if we ever get round to making it (weve been talking about it for months) ill send you a prototype!  :D
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 08, 2006, 09:11:41 PM
Cheers, Sambo! Are you ever off this board?  :wink:

What I really need is a pick anchored to the bone in my thumb that extends and retracts at will - a bit like Wolverine's claws in X-Men ... but not as sharp.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: _tom_ on March 08, 2006, 10:09:28 PM
Could always grow your thumbnail? Or will that not work well enough?[/url]
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 08, 2006, 10:17:41 PM
Like most classical guitarists, I have long, girly fingernails on my right hand and extremely short nails on my left. The trouble with the thumb is, again, on the upstrokes. They sound completely different to the downstrokes, probably because I'm hitting the strings with the fleshy part of my thumb - but this is unavoidable unless I grow my thumbnail to ludicrous (and impractical) proportions.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 08, 2006, 10:19:09 PM
oh that reminds me- this sam richwood- our drummers bro uses his thumb to pic and he can go really fast with it- its unnatural i swear- he anchors his hold hand and just quickly wiggles his thumb using his nail to pic- ridiculous.

lol froglord  :lol:  :P  wolverine pics would be so damn cool...
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 08, 2006, 10:28:09 PM
Yeah, I've seen a blues guitarist in a pub play with only his thumb and get away with it. I don't think my thumb will move that fast.

If Wolverine played a PRS, how would he protect the finish? Just a thought.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: _tom_ on March 08, 2006, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: sambo
oh that reminds me- this sam richwood- our drummers bro uses his thumb to pic and he can go really fast with it- its unnatural i swear- he anchors his hold hand and just quickly wiggles his thumb using his nail to pic- ridiculous.

lol froglord  :lol:  :P  wolverine pics would be so damn cool...


That sounds bloody hilarious. Get that on vid, please!
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 08, 2006, 10:33:26 PM
tis weird indeed.... but effective and seems to be VERY accurate and controlled some how
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Bird on March 08, 2006, 11:18:19 PM
These ones are as close as you get to best of both. The Herco flat /thumpick is great, about as close as you'll get to flatpick feel. Go with a heavy gauge though. Extra heavy are too tight on the thumb and mediums don't hang on enough.
http://www.jimdunlop.com/products/herco/guitar/
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 08, 2006, 11:22:34 PM
see the 'finger pick' in there is kind of what i need- a pic attached to your finger pointing inline with your finger not at a right angle...

however- a finger pick like that attached to your thumb would be better cause then if you needed to tap it wouldnt get in the way like it would if it was on your index finger- see what i mean?
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: rahnooo on March 09, 2006, 12:47:21 AM
I'd add my vote to the Herco, I use one a lot, albeit on lap steel and it's a sweet pick. I've tried Dunlops and hated them, they were really unweildy and tended to cut off my circulation. The Hero has a bit more give so feels much more natural.

*Rahnooo*
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Searcher on March 09, 2006, 05:40:26 AM
Thanks for that Herco link.  I'd never heard of them before.  What I've done before to get my thumbpicks to fit better is to drop the pick in some boiling water and then shape it before it gets cold.   That might work for you, too.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 09, 2006, 09:01:17 AM
Cheers, chaps! I'll give the Herco a try.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Elliot on March 09, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
I think thumbpicks are good for certain style - American fingerstyles like country blues (Mississippi John Hurt or Lightning Hopkins) or Travis style picking work great with thumb picks because you have that heavy muted bass that often is quite monotone.

For British fingerstyles like Davey Graham or Bert Jansch I find I need to use flesh or nail to get the slightly more articulate sound.  I know Jansch plays with a thumb pick but I can't for the life of me work out how.

Right hand position is another thing - if you are used to the classical style and want to play blues/folk fingerstyle you might need to change the right hand position as classical hand positions don't really help.

I saw Davey Graham a few weeks ago and he changes his right hand position like crazy depending on the style he's playing - a real revelation to watch.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Tellboy on March 09, 2006, 09:23:30 AM
Quote from: froglord
Cheers, Sambo! Are you ever off this board?  :wink:

What I really need is a pick anchored to the bone in my thumb that extends and retracts at will - a bit like Wolverine's claws in X-Men ... but not as sharp.


Err....a bit like this? This is a pic of me using my 'Bare Knuckle' Wolverine Tri-pick. Also very useful as a back scratcher. One downside - I've noticed an increase in string breakages since I started using them.

Anticipating any comments about my youthful appearance - I do look after myself ..work out regularly, eat healthily, don't smoke, don't drink etc.
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: froglord on March 09, 2006, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: Tellboy
I do look after myself ..work out regularly, eat healthily, don't smoke, don't drink etc.


It doesn't look like any of that has done much for your anger management though.

Grrrr!!!  :wink:
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 09, 2006, 04:07:16 PM
wow..... i take it they're adjustable? i mean, i may wanna reduce the length a bit to increase accuracy...
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Kilby on March 09, 2006, 04:21:43 PM
Be careful when you scratch that itch ;)

Roger McGuinn often uses a variation of the travis technique

An ordinary pick between thumb and index, and fingerpicks on the middle and ring fingers, allowing him to revert to ordinary rock playing.

Though he also uses thumb pick, and fingerpicks on index & middle fingers, for his current solo stuff.

Rob...
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: sambo on March 09, 2006, 04:24:01 PM
sounds strange.... and bloody difficult...
Title: Anyone here use a thumbpick?
Post by: Dakine on March 09, 2006, 04:33:33 PM
I believe Randy Rhodes used his thumbnail (well he grew it anyway). Apparently got some flack for growing it as a "coke" tool till it was pointed out that the thumb is a poor coke spoon compared to other digits and to get a grip LOL.