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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 09, 2006, 07:32:54 PM

Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 09, 2006, 07:32:54 PM: I have a new guitar with an alder body, it's odd, I never thought there'd be so much difference in sound, but there is. This alder sounds a lot deeper and darker than the basswood which I am used to, normally really bright and thin, almost opposite it seems. So, what do I put in the bridge of this for heavy distorted 80's glam metal lead tones? I like tones from people like Paul Gilbert, Yngwie, Reb Beach, Vai, Mattias Eklundh. bare in mind the body wood. this has rosewood board and a maple neck
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Ratrod on March 09, 2006, 07:36:17 PM: I think that would be VHII territory.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on March 09, 2006, 09:04:11 PM: COLD SWEAT!
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 09, 2006, 09:04:51 PM: I dunno man, the VHII is a low output pickup compared to what those guys I mentioned use. I found that I didn't get on with the low output Emerald pickup which I used before, nice pickup, but not powerful enough. So, I think that a high output pickup is necessary, unless a few more tell me otherwise.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 09, 2006, 09:06:14 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
COLD SWEAT!

I'll see if I can find some clips
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: dave_mc on March 09, 2006, 09:59:57 PM: that's odd, my basswood rg is all mids- my alder kramer is brighter, and has more bass too... :o
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 10, 2006, 05:06:20 PM: what do the makers think?
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on March 10, 2006, 06:13:25 PM: I think a cold sweat would do the job nicely.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Tim on March 10, 2006, 09:15:00 PM: Cold Sweat or Miracle Man.......either will give a great tight bass response without getting too dark in the mids.In this instance a Nailbomb could be too much if you feel the Alder is that dark as the NB has a strong and broad mid.
I've played alot of alder bodied S style guitars and they really work for me, especially if you're doing that hi gain shred material.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 10, 2006, 10:37:33 PM: alright, I'll go with the miracle man, I have a question first though, i have to take emg-hz passive stock pickups out of it. Although they're EMG, they are passive, and have 500k pots, so can I leave the electrics in the guitar?
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Tim on March 11, 2006, 07:59:39 AM: Yep, 500ks will be fine............some players go up to 1 meg pots with hi gain p/ups but I've always been fine with 500k.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 11, 2006, 12:30:18 PM: done.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: HJM on March 11, 2006, 12:50:28 PM: 1 Meg pots work really well with duller sounding pickups like high gain Dimarzios and Duncans, it helps try and open them out. The harmonics you get from the scatterwinding process remove the mush from the BKP high output pickups so 500ks work great.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 11, 2006, 07:12:07 PM: I thought because it was EMG there'd be a difference impedence(sp)? or something, but I have spare pots even if these don't work.

When I get the pickup delivered, I'll post a clip of it in the players section.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Neemo on March 11, 2006, 08:07:33 PM: Quote from: Cattivo Ragazzo
I thought because it was EMG there'd be a difference impedence(sp)? or something, but I have spare pots even if these don't work.

25k pots are usually used with active pickups
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: JamesHealey on March 21, 2006, 10:25:35 PM: it's only active EMG's like the 81/85/89 etc.. that need to change the pots.

the HZ's are passive like DiMarzio, Seymour Duncan, BKP etc.
Title: Alder body pickup
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on March 21, 2006, 10:46:52 PM: I know, ive already fitted the mm. I have 85 in my one guitar, but the mm sounds better. I had an emerald before, and a blackdog, but not enough power for me, the mm is ace, through a shite wanky amp too.