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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Lew on October 09, 2013, 06:33:02 PM

Title: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Lew on October 09, 2013, 06:33:02 PM
I've not bought a budget guitar for yonks so I'm out of the loop. I need a 6string in std for teaching. A strat would be preferable but guessing a hardtail might be better at that price?

It used to be the Pacifica 112 at that price - used is fine.

Using my tuned diwn 7string isn't the most practical and new students get confuzzled over the low string!

Ta!
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on October 09, 2013, 07:13:32 PM
squier classic vibe's are pretty amazing for the money, not sure if you could get one for £200 but maybe second hand?

Yamaha Pacifica are amazing though, probably better.

Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Dave Sloven on October 09, 2013, 09:13:33 PM
Epiphone G-400 would do the trick.  Small, easy to handle, Grover tuners that should rarely go out of tune.  You can probably get on in a hard case for that price.  I wouldn't go for a cheaper Epi than that though.  Get one with Grovers if you get one, it will make life easier
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Nadz1lla on October 09, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
Pacifica for my money.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Lew on October 09, 2013, 11:03:17 PM
Cheers! I quite fancy the idea of an SG. Infact I've been gassing for a Jaydee for ages. They're not exactly budget, though haha. I think a Strat might be more sensible. Had a look on ebay and didn't realize how cheap the 112 sells for used! Could throw some money at better tuners too.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Nadz1lla on October 09, 2013, 11:20:36 PM
Aye, although Pacificas are popular, the depreciate in value a lot more than Fenders or even Squiers. Usually pretty solid, even when used.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Dave Sloven on October 09, 2013, 11:28:54 PM
So, what BKPs are you going to put in this thing?  :P
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Philly Q on October 09, 2013, 11:47:25 PM
I would go straight for a Pacifica if I was after a budget guitar. 

Even though it's been around forever, no-one else seems to have grasped the idea of making such a great guitar at that price - they always seem to be tempted to add bling rather than simple, quality features.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Pete24v on October 10, 2013, 08:29:40 AM
I use, and have used a Pacifica for teaching for for the last 9 years. My first one lasted 6yrs of 4 days a week constant work, then it needed a re-fret so i sold it on.. the quote for the re-fret was £120.. sold the guitar for £50. For a few years after that i used my mexican strat, which was my backup gigging guitar. Then sold that to a student, and i bought a Jap strat. Recently i went back to a Pacifica, found a used one on ebay with a gig bag for £40! it has one chip in the paint and a missing trem arm, other than that its perfect.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Lew on October 10, 2013, 06:52:55 PM
So, what BKPs are you going to put in this thing?  :P

 :lol: one pickup would be worth the same as the guitar
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Telerocker on October 10, 2013, 07:29:24 PM
The Pacifica's are nice for the money. I like the necks of the Classic Vibes better. I would also have a look at Vintage.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Mr. Air on October 10, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
The Pacifica's are nice for the money. I like the necks of the Classic Vibes better. I would also have a look at Vintage.

I was going to say a Vintage v6, but I don't know if it's better bang for buck than a Pacifica 112.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: viking on October 11, 2013, 01:36:59 AM
Why would you need a budget guitar for teaching  :? ? It's just a general question as i understand the OP is playing 7-strings guitars...I would guess the students do bring their own guitars ?
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Dave Sloven on October 11, 2013, 01:59:19 AM
Must be kids who travel there on the bus/train
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
I would also think as a teacher (.....a situation I can only imagine.... God help anyone who asked me for lessons.....) there might be something to be said for using a guitar similar to the ones your students might own.

It could make the whole thing seem more approachable/attainable, rather than sitting with your Squier watching your teacher whizzing around the fretboard of his £3,000 PRS.

That way they learn an early lesson that it's not all about gear.
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Lew on October 11, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
It's a fair question. Yea, some students come straight from school and the studio is in town so it's not always practical for them to drag a guitar around all day (not a problem for most). And, yea what Philly said. Some students are in awe and dig playing a custom built axe (I let them use it) but some students are clearly disturbed and confused by it - it is a disturbing axe :-D

But the biggest reasons are because it's hard for a beginner to follow a visual example with that extra string which is made doubly worse by me playing either half a step or a whole step down depending on my mood. 11-66 suck in standard tuning!
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: viking on October 12, 2013, 02:42:10 AM
Yeah,it def. makes sense if your axe is a 7-strings custom built  8) ! I still remember my first classical guitar teacher : i was  going there mainly to watch him play his 60's Ramirez  :lol: ! I didn't really care for the guitar,per se,but i just wanted to watch/hear him play.Unfortunately,it didn't last very long (he moved away..) but it gave me a big boost and i still remember the feeling..
Title: Re: What £200 budget guitar for teaching?
Post by: Lew on October 12, 2013, 11:55:40 AM
I had a similar thing but it was with a 60s SG. Lovely thing.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Lew on October 12, 2013, 02:39:47 PM
Went into the local on the off-chance and they did indeed have a Pacifica.

It's been modded (for better or worse) with a killswitch 0_o a BCRich bridge pup and a Super500 (whatever that is) neck pup. 9/10 condition - the frets don't have any wear which is what I was looking for. No dead spots and low action.  £70. It'll do the job nicely  8)

(http://i.imgur.com/wEhxgNq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UYM7Rxf.jpg)
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Philly Q on October 12, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Replace that scratchplate assembly and it doesn't even look like a budget model.  They are very, very nice guitars.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: dave_mc on October 12, 2013, 03:58:08 PM
very nice :D
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Telerocker on October 12, 2013, 04:31:47 PM
Congrats! Absolutely no money for this guitar.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 12, 2013, 04:52:39 PM
Cool - that's a total win any way you look at it.

Also psychologically having a budget guitar and making it sound awesome reminds your students that it's the practicing that is most important to their progress at this stage.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Lew on October 12, 2013, 08:09:51 PM
Exactly, Jon :-)

I'm really impressed with it so far. Makes me wonder how good the expensive ones are.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on October 14, 2013, 12:48:57 PM
Pacifica 112 or, based on how impressed I am with the Vintage V100 I just bought; some kind of Vintage.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: Plenum n Heather on October 14, 2013, 12:54:56 PM
Nice score! A friend of mine has a couple of Pacifica guitars and I have played and really enjoyed.
Title: Re: What £200... Now a NGD
Post by: dvorak on October 14, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
£70 bucks for that and it plays well? What's not to like??

Congrats.