Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: dave the fool on October 15, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
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Hi guys!!!
I play lead guitar in a heavy metal band, and i hesitate between 2 models, The Painkiller and The Nailbomb Ceramic in bridge position.
I play a Gibson Les Paul Custom 59 V.O.S with 2 originals burstbuckers.
My amp is an Engl Invader 100 head.
The guitar is generaly tuned in DGCFAD
I love louds rythmics and hot solis.
Wich pickup you advise me, between these 2 models????
Thanks
Dave :lol:
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I feel like painkiller would be better for metal but the nail bomb could pull off metal with that engl. The nail bomb is more versatile I think
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No experience with either pickup but going by description both should do the job. Which one is better in that application that would be a question best directed to Tim or Ben at BKP.
With respect to the fact that the Engl has gain in spades you could also consider a lower output pickup. The Black Dog and Cold Sweat are both known to work well for lower tunings.
Cheers Stephan
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Thanks duses!
But there are too many models, too many choices: i want to be sure to have done best choice
Yes, maybe Tim or Ben can advise me on this point
Yeah the Invader sounds very deep and has powerful gain :D
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Yeah I would email them for a definite suggestion. Either one of them will know what will be best for you
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Yeah it's done!
Tx 8)
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I`ve never had any experience with Painkiller but I have Ceramic Nailbomb bridge (covered) in quite similar guitar (mahogany body/neck, palisander fretboard and flame maple top).
When it comes to CBomb I use it with the guitar tuned in standard (EADGBE). It does metal very well, its aggressive with rock/metal attitude, no doubt. It handles loads of distortion with pride and copes with screaming solos as well. Cleans are suprisingly good for ceramic pup (in my opinion like them better than clean tones of HD from the website).
I find it quite dark sounding in my guitar (but not dark-muddy). Low frequencies and mids are well pronounced in my configuration. There`s no lack of highs but they are less presented. But like I mentioned earlier pickup is not muddy. What`s more it`s very responsive to articulation (one of the main aspect for me) and pitch harmonics are literally jumping out of speakers. Really good pickup for rock/metal. It`s not an extreme metal pickup but still copes with those sounds very good.
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Yeah me to, i don't like dark muddy sounds, i prefer when it sounds warmer and loud, a sound more precise.
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I have both of these pickups in my RG's and both are in mahogany bodies. The Painkiller is my fave though and both have the same ceramic magnets , just different winds , the Painkiller has more lower mids for some serious heavy metal grind with drop C tuning and a set of 12's and with your LP's individual tone and volume controls , the world is your oyster and I recommend swapping out the bridge volume pot for one with a pull/push switch for some truly slicing out of phase sounds :shock:
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P.S. Pickup height is very important with the Painkiller especially in the bridge position to balance it with the neck pup and get the tones you most favour .
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Maybe too powerful for a Les Paul Custom?????? :?
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C-Bomb Les Paul through an Engl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8bYUWMBSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8bYUWMBSE)
Sounds pretty good to me.
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Absolutely love the sound of that c-bomb. So much so that I might have to reconsider my next purchade.
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forget the nailbomb, i need me an ENGL haha
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ENGL make awesome cabs for sure! Amps sound good too
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ENGL make awesome cabs for sure! Amps sound good too
i always wanted one. Hammerfall used them in the early days (maybe even now... but i dont think so) and their early tones were awesome
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I'm pretty sure they still do. I think around Threshold or so they were using a Savage and an Special EL34 in the studio - don't quote me on it though.
Other bands that have used ENGLs for their sound:
Accept (newer albums), Rammstein, In Flames (at least on Come Clarity), Dimmu Borgir (don't know when they started, but at least on Death Cult Armageddon). I think one of the guys from Black Dahlia Murder has an Invader, but I don't know if they ever were endorsees.
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Yeah I think they use marshals live these days but I could be wrong. I haven't followed them much since Stefan left
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Yeah! Engl is Deutsch quality!!!! lol :P
Like Diezel, Germans brands are very very good.
Before the Invader i had a Diezel Einstein 50W, very fun and awesome!
By the fact "Master Tim" answered me, and he thinks that the Nailbomb Ceramic will sound better on my Les Paul than the Painkiller.
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So choice is done!!!! :shock:
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good luck!
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Maybe too powerful for a Les Paul Custom?????? :?
That's what the volume and tone controls are for ?? :) , but too powerful for heavy metal , absolutely not 8)
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I'm pretty sure they still do. I think around Threshold or so they were using a Savage and an Special EL34 in the studio - don't quote me on it though.
Other bands that have used ENGLs for their sound:
Accept (newer albums), Rammstein, In Flames (at least on Come Clarity), Dimmu Borgir (don't know when they started, but at least on Death Cult Armageddon). I think one of the guys from Black Dahlia Murder has an Invader, but I don't know if they ever were endorsees.
If I remember correctly the German bands Victory and Helloween use(d) them, too.
Cheers Stephan
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I would go for Ceramic Nailbomb bridge and Painkiller neck - best of both worlds imo
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C-Bomb Les Paul through an Engl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8bYUWMBSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8bYUWMBSE)
Sounds pretty good to me.
THAT is EXACTLY why I've always maintained the Nailbomb would work best in a Les Paul. It retains that modern aggression but it's tamed by all that mahogany. As much as I hated a Nailbomb in my maple neck-thru, I love that tone in a Les Paul.
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agreed. i may not have liked my abomb in my strat but it probably wouldve sounded much better in my les paul
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Gibson Powa!!!!! :lol: