Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: 5F6-A on March 10, 2006, 12:10:29 PM
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I couldn't believe it but it's true.
Some people say that Gary is in deep finantial trouble.... Could it be the reason for such a painful departure?'
(http://www.privateguitarcollector.com/pggm408purchase%20aggreement.jpg)
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Where did you pick up on this? Can't find anything via Google
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Where did you pick up on this? Can't find anything via Google
http://www.guitarristas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4993
It's in Spanish though...
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Wow! Seems a strange thing to do - must be some major £££ worries - wonder how much they paid for it!?
I'd have sold him my 1989 Les Paul Standard with out of phase Mules for a few grand less! :D
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Damn, he must feel terrible selling that. Could you imagine owning that?
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Gary always seemed to me a rather good player but a moody, strange person..... anybody has heard about him having money problems? drugs ?
It's the only thing I can think of, really.....
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:D Sorry it`s B*ll*cks the GM signature looks like it`s been done by a 5yr old !!
GM is about to do a tour of the UK/Europe, he`s playing the big venues Wembley Arena etc. Ticket sales have been good, i can`t see how he`s in financial trouble.
This has the same kind of smell about it that we got with the Lemmy is gay inter net rumour !!
:D 8)
What do we think ?
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If it's real he should be able to live of the money for a year.
To me it would just be another LP that needs a set of Mules. :twisted:
The Lemmy gay hoax was killer. :lol: :lol:
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Check out the links and make up your own minds if it is a hoax or not
http://www.maverick-music.com/
http://www.privateguitarcollector.com/comingsoon.htm
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Personally I dislike the thought of that guitar becoming nothing more than a bit of guitar porn :(
Mind you on the subject of strangeness, the sale of Mike Oldfields kit through Chandler guitars is also a bit strange.
http://www.chandlerguitars.co.uk/chandler.asp?pid=19&ip=0&mn=chandlerguitars
If memory serves me well (which it seldom does) that Tele used to belong to Marc Bolan.
The first guitar I ever fell in lust with was Oldfields SW with P90s
Rob...
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I couldn't believe it but it's true.
Some people say that Gary is in deep finantial trouble.... Could it be the reason for such a painful departure?'
Whether or not the story is a hoax I don't know, but I am confident that the letter is. This sort of document would have undoubtedly had a price written into it - otherwise what's the point?
And spot the two spelling mistakes!
rgds
Ol.
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I couldn't believe it but it's true.
Some people say that Gary is in deep finantial trouble.... Could it be the reason for such a painful departure?'
Whether or not the story is a hoax I don't know, but I am confident that the letter is. This sort of document would have undoubtedly had a price written into it - otherwise what's the point?
rgds
Ol.
:D + 1
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wheres the second mistake apart from 'know' which should be 'known' ..?
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Aggreement is the uther smelling mistook
Though the sale agreement looks a bit wierd stating "now owned by Gary Moore" considering he has just sold it.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so I suppose.
Rob...
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Maybe he just doesn't play it any more. Sometimes guitars do become knackered, like Eric Clapton's blackie. I've not got any idea how he could be in finanical trouble, I'm seeing him on the 29th as it happens with B.B. King. Odds are he has another reason for parting with it. I hope so anyhow. I know Slash ended up selling a load of Les Pauls and stuff to fuel his heroin habit. It's always a shame when stuff like that happens.
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I can already see the e-bay add.
For sale: Gibson Les Paul with Alnico II pro pickups. Buy it now for $10,000.- or 1 kilo.
E-mail Saul Hudson @....
:twisted: :twisted:
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Gary has been known to go in Mrs 38th's shop. He is quite a grumpy dude it seems to me. He was asked for an autograph once when he was in and moodily obliged.
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He never liked the "feel" of the guitar much. Peter didn't either. Apparently it has a neck like a baseball bat but the tone....that is a different matter.
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Damn shame- check out http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/junkyard/gary_moores_sound.html
for so called guitarists humerous attempts at describing who Gary Moore is :D
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I have been lucky enough to meet him on several occasions and he has been very a down to earth,pleasant guy.
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any more news???
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:D Saw GM with BB King a couple of weeks ago. We were all looking to see if it was the PG model or not that he was playing but we were to far away to tell i`m afraid :cry:
:D 8)
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There is an interview with him in hte new GUitarist, has pics of him with said guitar, certainly didn't look like he was about to sell it...
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I'd wager he's had a clone of the original made for live use, few old Les Pauls are toured today, mainly down to risk, insurance (or lack of). Plus there's a fair trade in people cloning old Pauls.....
A few years ago in an interview in Guitarist I think Gary said that the neck was damaged in a car accident, his car was hit by a truck with a guitar in the boot!!
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It's in Guitarist this month - he HAS sold it. Yes, it was damaged in a car crash previously too. Snapped the headstock off.
I reckon it's knackered, Gary Moore isn't as popular as he once was, and he's cashing in while he can.
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There is an interview with him in hte new GUitarist, has pics of him with said guitar, certainly didn't look like he was about to sell it...
It's in Guitarist this month - he HAS sold it. Yes, it was damaged in a car crash previously too. Snapped the headstock off.
I reckon it's knackered, Gary Moore isn't as popular as he once was, and he's cashing in while he can.
I knew I should have read the article before opening my mouth... :roll:
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It's in Guitarist this month - he HAS sold it. Yes, it was damaged in a car crash previously too. Snapped the headstock off.
I reckon it's knackered, Gary Moore isn't as popular as he once was, and he's cashing in while he can.
Propbably didn't play as it used to do either - anybody remember the picks of Claptons Blackie....bad case of E strings well clear of teh fretboard edge!
Part of me thinks that the collectors are welcome to a lot of these old guitars, there are plenty of people making excellent copies better than Gibson did then or now and at less cost. Martin Barre sold two 50s Les Pauls and bought a Bentley.....
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Very quick and easy way to lose a lot of money. Depreciation is a terrible thing...
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But fun....
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News:
It's for sale. http://www.maverick-music.com/scripts/vintage-guitars.asp?idproduct=1211
If interested its price is just 2 million dollars!!! seriously!
Cheap isn't it?
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I'm not very fond of these people as I find some items listred as misleading for example http://www.maverick-music.com/scripts/vintage-guitars.asp?idproduct=1201
When they say model they actually mean scale model.
There where also a couple of other Ex Gary Moore guitars there, but they only appear to have a Charlie Chandler model now.
Looks to me like Mr Moore must have been having some cash flow issues.
Rob...
Theres also an ex Paul Kossoff & an ex Van Halen too, though the most interesting ones to me are the Eggles and the Rickenbacker acoustic.
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I read an interview with Gary Moore about the sale of this guitar and it was VERY interesting! He didn't say why he sold it, but he did say it was supposed to be a discrete sale. There was a bit of bidding and Carlos Santana was also interested in it. It then got sold to the Maverick Music guy and all info should have been kept private. The guy then flashed the story all over the web and guitar press and now everyone knows about it. Gary Moore was WELL p*ssed off about the whole thing. There were a fair few "f" words in the interview and he was attacking the Maverick Music guy pretty heavily! He was not a happy bunny!
I dread to think what Gary Moore now feels about this sale so soon after the last one. He probably wanted it to go to someone who would really appreciate it for what it is, now it's going to end up in a bank vault and owned by a non-guitar playing city trader or something :(
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I can't see why people spend 2 million on such things only to shut them away. If theyre not being played in the home (or studio) they should at least be on display.
I guess I like the Paul Allen attitude when he bought the Hendrix stuff.
Rob...
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Damn shame- check out http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/junkyard/gary_moores_sound.html
for so called guitarists humerous attempts at describing who Gary Moore is :D
Even my mum knows who Gary Moore is. She laughed when she saw this.
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Check out the links and make up your own minds if it is a hoax or not
http://www.maverick-music.com/
http://www.privateguitarcollector.com/comingsoon.htm
That doesn't look like the GM/PG Les Paul to me... I thought it was heritage cherry...
Maybe he can pass it off to someone else to continue the legacy...
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BTW, that guitar was totally wrecked about 10 years ago when a lorry smash the boot of the car in which Gary was taking the guitar to a studio.... the neck was broken in many places and was repaired but they don't mention that much..... the whole story was published at Guitarrist mag... let me see if I can find the article.....
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Yep - the guitar is pretty much knackered. It's the historical value you're paying for.
It's WAAAAAAY overpriced if you ask me, but then I'm not a big PG fan.
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BTW, that guitar was totally wrecked about 10 years ago when a lorry smash the boot of the car in which Gary was taking the guitar to a studio.... the neck was broken in many places and was repaired but they don't mention that much..... the whole story was published at Guitarrist mag... let me see if I can find the article.....
IIRC, the Guitarist article was around 10 years ago. The actual crash & neck breakage was much longer ago.
I heard/read that the initial repair was done by Neville Martin but he used the wrong glue & made a pig's ear of it. Someone else re-did it....
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BTW, that guitar was totally wrecked about 10 years ago when a lorry smash the boot of the car in which Gary was taking the guitar to a studio.... the neck was broken in many places and was repaired but they don't mention that much..... the whole story was published at Guitarrist mag... let me see if I can find the article.....
IIRC, the Guitarist article was around 10 years ago. The actual crash & neck breakage was much longer ago.
I heard/read that the initial repair was done by Neville Martin but he used the wrong glue & made a pig's ear of it. Someone else re-did it....
did you mean Neville Marten? THe guy at guitarrist mag? :roll:
THe article was publised in April 95 so it's about 11 years old and it reads: "the guitar had a close brush with mortality a few years ago" So I guess the accident happened around 1991 or 1992....
REad the whole article here:
http://www.privateguitarcollector.com/pggm401garymooreinterview2.jpg
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I'm a big GM & PM fan. The famed LP is a piece of R&R history, it was a guitar that only needed the proper amp and player to make great sound. However, as it has been mentioned already; Clapton's Blackie had its day and now the GM/PG LP has had its day too. It was a great run though.
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I'm a big GM & PM fan. .
Who is PM? Pat Metheny? :lol: :wink:
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did you mean Neville Marten? THe guy at guitarrist mag? :roll:
THe article was publised in April 95 so it's about 11 years old and it reads: "the guitar had a close brush with mortality a few years ago" So I guess the accident happened around 1991 or 1992....
Actually, I think it is the same Neville Marten who edited Guitarist for a few years. He worked at Gibson for a time.
Yes, I remember reading that article when it was published in '95 which is why I commented that it must have been >10 years ago.
IMO "a few years ago" in that context could mean anything from 2-3 to 10+
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Regarding the Peter Green/Gary Moore to the best of my knowledge Gary Moore wanted to sell the guitar as it had become a bit of a liability. The insurance premiums for the guitar were getting daft, and touring with it was impossible. As aluded in a previous post, Gary wanted a dicreet sale to a collector who didn't want to make a profit from the guitar but wanted it for their collection. A sum not unadjacent to £300,000 was mentioned. Once Gary sold the guitar it was very rapidly sold on for a rumoured $1,200,000, which is how it ended up at Maverick music, although whether they bought it outright or it was a consignment sale I don't know.
One of the reasons that the guitar has fetched so much money is that the provenance of the guitar is not in dispute: a major issue with many instruments.
Hopefully this will clear up a few issues.
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Interesting stuff!
From what I've read about the sale, it was originally destined for a collector of some sort (Carlos Santana was a possible buyer at one point!) and Maverick Music were the go-betweens when a deal was eventually struck. Somehow the intended buyer dropped out (or was never there?) and the Maverick Music boss bought it. This fact was not clearly communicated and Gary Moore's side of the deal weren't aware of this when the sale went through.
The guitar then was posted on Maverick's site and it snowballed from there. I understand it's left a very sour taste in Gary's mouth and he's pretty naffed off about it.
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I believe that there are a lot of people who have had issues with Maverick music.
Including John Hall (the CEO of Rickenbacker), I have been told has apparently had a few quite serious disputes with them.