Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: JDC on November 21, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
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:lol:
You got me, hook line and sinker.
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Didn't realise you could get them in anything but the usual colours, so I went on a little search. Came across this...!
http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium (http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium)
Can't imagine they sell many of those.
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Didn't realise you could get them in anything but the usual colours, so I went on a little search. Came across this...!
http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium (http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium)
Can't imagine they sell many of those.
I WANT!!!! :o
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Didn't realise you could get them in anything but the usual colours, so I went on a little search. Came across this...!
http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium (http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:titanium-series/titanium)
Can't imagine they sell many of those.
I WANT!!!! :o
The only time I would ever spend that much on one is if it was solid gold... And also improved my playing significantly...
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The only time I would ever spend that much on one is if it was solid gold... And also improved my playing significantly...
Solid gold knife-edges wouldn't hold up to much whammy abuse....
The titanium Floyd looks cool, but it had better be bloody good at that price.
At a more realistic price level, Schaller make Floyds in lots of different finishes (good luck finding them anywhere, though). I love the Vintage Copper look:
(http://guitar-tremolo.com/download/C5e682614X129b126da58XY7f1e/35___VC16_001_OhneLizenz_800.jpg)
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I know the titanium floyd cost more but damn!!!
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The only time I would ever spend that much on one is if it was solid gold... And also improved my playing significantly...
At a more realistic price level, Schaller make Floyds in lots of different finishes (good luck finding them anywhere, though). I love the Vintage Copper look:
(http://guitar-tremolo.com/download/C5e682614X129b126da58XY7f1e/35___VC16_001_OhneLizenz_800.jpg)
Schaller seem to be more OEM than direct to consumer sadly.. Gotoh's are much easier to find
Never understood the use of titanium in bridges. Yes it's tensile strength is much better than steel for mechanical applications, and it is much more resistant to heat induced stress, but that makes it harder to heat treat for hardening because it is quite soft metal. especially when its in contact with steel.
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The only time I would ever spend that much on one is if it was solid gold... And also improved my playing significantly...
At a more realistic price level, Schaller make Floyds in lots of different finishes (good luck finding them anywhere, though). I love the Vintage Copper look:
(http://guitar-tremolo.com/download/C5e682614X129b126da58XY7f1e/35___VC16_001_OhneLizenz_800.jpg)
Schaller seem to be more OEM than direct to consumer sadly.. Gotoh's are much easier to find
Never understood the use of titanium in bridges. Yes it's tensile strength is much better than steel for mechanical applications, and it is much more resistant to heat induced stress, but that makes it harder to heat treat for hardening because it is quite soft metal. especially when its in contact with steel.
some tone connoisseurs think that titanium sounds better than brass and other metals, I personally think brass is fine though and cheaper.
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The only time I would ever spend that much on one is if it was solid gold... And also improved my playing significantly...
At a more realistic price level, Schaller make Floyds in lots of different finishes (good luck finding them anywhere, though). I love the Vintage Copper look:
(http://guitar-tremolo.com/download/C5e682614X129b126da58XY7f1e/35___VC16_001_OhneLizenz_800.jpg)
Schaller seem to be more OEM than direct to consumer sadly.. Gotoh's are much easier to find
Never understood the use of titanium in bridges. Yes it's tensile strength is much better than steel for mechanical applications, and it is much more resistant to heat induced stress, but that makes it harder to heat treat for hardening because it is quite soft metal. especially when its in contact with steel.
some tone connoisseurs think that titanium sounds better than brass and other metals, I personally think brass is fine though and cheaper.
Yep, heard that, i do have an honest feeling it's more to do with the perceived exclusivity and general "cork sniffyness" of having a material like titanium in a bridge, the love of the materials sound comes from a confirmation bias about spending so much on it in the first place. I'm happy with steel myself, but i can understand why people would like materials like brass as well. BTW i am one of the people that feels that everything contributes to the sound, if in subtle ways, even the material of a free floating trem system like a floyd, I know that others don't feel that they can have an effect because it's an electric guitar.
Then again, as we all know, tone starts in the fingers. I do like tweaking though. Have been meaning to put a callaham assmebly in my strat for years.
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Have been meaning to put a callaham assmebly in my strat for years.
Me too. It's sitting there gathering dust... :oops:
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been reading up on titanium floyds a bit, now, they do make all titanium floyds, and offer replacement saddles, but by and large it's the blocks that are titanium.
Just found a review of some of floyd upgrades sustain blocks, but the titanium one read like this. (from guitar world)
"Titanium is prized for its light weight and incredible strength. Reiver also discovered that when the highest grade of this metal is used with an undisclosed alloy, it has unique resonant qualities. Although top-shelf titanium is fairly expensive, it has outstanding sonic benefits. The Titanium block I tested approximately doubled the guitar’s sustain, and the entire frequency spectrum became more intense. Note definition and focus were vastly improved, and previously unheard overtones gushed through the speakers. Upper frequencies in particular were intoxicatingly effervescent, with no loss of midrange punch or low-end power."
When i see language like this and also "exotic overtones" i simply think
bo****ks
sorry, but thats just the effect b******t has on me....
they do tungsten blocks now too
think this is floydupgrades as well, but their own marketing spraff
""Our exclusive tungsten sustain blocks for Floyd Rose tremolo bridges offer the highest density available in block that conforms to the original size specifications of your Floyd Rose bridge. When it comes to sustain, the single most important property of a metal is density followed by hardness. Tungsten is over 4 times denser than titanium and more than twice as dense as brass. To equal the mass of our tungsten sustain block, you would need a titanium block 4 times the size and a brass block double the dimensions of our tungsten block. Most standard tremolo spring cavities simply aren't large enough to accommodate bulky sustain blocks sold by other companies. Ours is a direct replacement for the stock sustain block adding up to a half pound of mass to your bridge.
Why are density and mass important to sound and sustain? A fixed guitar bridge efficiently transmits string vibration from the bridge to the body through a large contact area but tremolo bridges are limited by a few very small attachment points. A great deal of resonance is lost to the bridge through the tremolo springs because the springs absorb and dissipate vibration very well. This is one of the reasons expensive studio microphones are suspend by springs to isolate external vibrations. A high density sustain block means greater inertia which means less string vibration transmitted to the springs and more in the bridge where it belongs.
Soft metals absorb sound and cancel sustain. Tungsten is much harder than steel and titanium and over twice as hard as brass. No other metal offers the perfect combination of mass and hardness.
With our tungsten sustain block, every note will be brighter with a significant increase in clarity and sustain."
They've started off with the misconception that more of something equals better (by their reasoning a nicely polished block of granite should make a good sustain block) then went on to misunderstand what inertia is (resistance to deflection or deceleration by an object moving in a straight line with constant speed) and finished it off by saying their own other highly priced sustain block is basically rubbish (titanium is less wear resistant and softer than steel, ever wonder why you don't see many titanium knives? so by their reasoning, it should be the least effective of their products). If soft = dampening properties then why do people use brass at all? hardness is not directly related to density. density is a more determinant factor in transmission of energy eg why a mine exploding underwater is much more damaging than in air. Glass is extremely hard (resistance to deformation and also resistance to wear) but will shatter reasonably easily.
gah...
Rant over..
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But does it produce more of the fragile harmonics that can get crushed in a crystal lattice?
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If the difference is so good... why don't they just make some sound files/youtube video so I can actually hear the affect, at least make some nice looking EQ graphs
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As with many things, i would imagine there's a difference between all three, but i wouldn't say any individual type is better than the other, just different to each other and any given one may suit someones purposes better than another. When you're a company though, charging the kind of money that this company is charging for the likes of vanadium and tungsten blocks, saying different ain't going to cut it in terms of convincing people to buy em. They don't want to hear "alternative" when they're purchasing a product thats twice the price of other options, they want to hear "this thing will cause total eargasm, and other gasm's too. your girlfriend and others girlfriends will run screaming at you the second you play a D chord, and sex you into a coma"
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The thing is, is suspect you'd hear and feel the difference most when the guitar's unplugged.
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"this thing will cause total eargasm, and other gasm's too. your girlfriend and others girlfriends will run screaming at you the second you play a D chord, and sex you into a coma"
You wouldn't happen to erm... know of any product that would do that do you? Please? :D
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"this thing will cause total eargasm, and other gasm's too. your girlfriend and others girlfriends will run screaming at you the second you play a D chord, and sex you into a coma"
You wouldn't happen to erm... know of any product that would do that do you? Please? :D
Here you go..
(http://goodolewoody.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/cash.jpg)
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"this thing will cause total eargasm, and other gasm's too. your girlfriend and others girlfriends will run screaming at you the second you play a D chord, and sex you into a coma"
You wouldn't happen to erm... know of any product that would do that do you? Please? :D
Here you go..
(http://goodolewoody.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/cash.jpg)
:lol:
Right, now the next question is would I be able to purchase all of that with the £7.37 I have in bank?
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Right, now the next question is would I be able to purchase all of that with the £7.37 I have in bank?
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£3.99! Then spend the £3.38 you have left on a cheap cider...
http://www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk/gifts/money-toilet-roll.html?gclid=COGw1Kf-mLsCFYbHtAodSlAAeQ#utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=free&utm_term=Money+Toilet+Roll+-+Dollar+Bill+Toilet+Paper (http://www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk/gifts/money-toilet-roll.html?gclid=COGw1Kf-mLsCFYbHtAodSlAAeQ#utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=free&utm_term=Money+Toilet+Roll+-+Dollar+Bill+Toilet+Paper)
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It's not how much you have it's how you spend it
ie say you're at a bar and your charisma isn't enough for the girl to be attracted to you, just take out your louis vuitton wallet and buy a posh bottle of champagne
My wingman has a rich friend who always buys 2 bottles of champagne on a night out, at first the girls are not interested in him because he's short... soon as the expensive bottles come out it's a different story
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My wingman has a rich friend who always buys 2 bottles of champagne on a night out, at first the girls are not interested in him because he's short... soon as the expensive bottles come out it's a different story
Ah, but are they the kind of girls who are really worth impressing?
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Just keep it casual and build up the rotation until the right girl comes along ;)