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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: aris17561 on January 18, 2014, 02:10:12 PM

Title: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: aris17561 on January 18, 2014, 02:10:12 PM: Hey , I just made a comparison video cause I saw that this issue has been asked in the past...

Bare knuckle Black dog is the pup that Jon Schaffer from ICED EARTH used to use in the framing armageddon period when Tim mills was in the band as a lead guitarist. Few years later Jon went to Jim Wagner who is a Handmade pickup maker and made his signature set of pickpus. The Icebuckers. So here I am testing those two pups. Make you choice and comment !!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AO3VY8Fylk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AO3VY8Fylk)
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: darrenw5094 on January 18, 2014, 04:12:20 PM: Black Dog is more open sounding even in the Youtube vid. The difference in the room would be even more dramatic.
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 01:11:37 AM: Quote from: darrenw5094 on January 18, 2014, 04:12:20 PM
Black Dog is more open sounding even in the Youtube vid. The difference in the room would be even more dramatic.

Indeed the bk sounds more iced earth than the icebuckers ... Black dog is tighter and more aggressive ...
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 19, 2014, 01:29:30 AM: I should preface this by saying that I don't like Iced Earth and that out of the BKP range the Black Dog is one of the pickups I'm not fond of BUT the Black Dog has the edge on the Icebucker in this comparison. The BD never sounds choked up and farty whereas the Icebucker does from time to time in this video
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: darrenw5094 on January 19, 2014, 01:53:13 AM: Still trying to like my Black Dog, but it's defo my least favorite BKP so far.
Funny think is though, it always sounds good in youtube.
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: richard on January 19, 2014, 02:06:44 AM: Late and a bit mashed but flicking to the 9 minute spot the guitars were so horribly out of tune I couldn't listen to the differences in tone..........
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: darrenw5094 on January 19, 2014, 04:08:41 AM: Quote from: richard on January 19, 2014, 02:06:44 AM
Late and a bit mashed but flicking to the 9 minute spot the guitars were so horribly out of tune I couldn't listen to the differences in tone..........

Spot on. The Black Dog sounds better but doesn't stay in tune very well. :P
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 09:56:23 AM: Ok I ll do another comparison and I will notice carefully the tuning issue .

Don't forget to vote though . I see only one vote . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 19, 2014, 10:55:35 AM: Quote from: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 09:56:23 AM
I see only one vote . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...

Well, it seems that you agree with me then!
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 11:02:38 AM: Quote from: Agent Orange on January 19, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
Quote from: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 09:56:23 AM
I see only one vote . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...

Well, it seems that you agree with me then!

Ha ha always ... Except the part you wrote that you don't like black dog ... :lol:
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: darrenw5094 on January 19, 2014, 07:55:05 PM: I am going to vote BD even though i am going to banish mine forever. Weird but true........
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: aris17561 on January 19, 2014, 07:57:21 PM: Quote from: darrenw5094 on January 19, 2014, 07:55:05 PM
I am going to vote BD even though i am going to banish mine forever. Weird but true........

Why man ? What doesn't like in bd ?
Title: Re: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)
Post by: darrenw5094 on January 19, 2014, 08:00:52 PM: The BD is in a Tokai Les Paul Standard, but the absence of high mids paired with big low mids, doesn't balance very well with my brain.