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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Jamie89 on January 22, 2014, 01:52:54 PM

Title: NGD... Finally
Post by: Jamie89 on January 22, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
Took a month to receive it after a lot of messing around but here she is.

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1319391_zpsf8c8eea2.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1319391_zpsf8c8eea2.jpg.html)

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1320461_zpsaf2618ad.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1320461_zpsaf2618ad.jpg.html)

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1321561_zpsdffa1173.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1321561_zpsdffa1173.jpg.html)

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1323051_zpsfb019f91.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1323051_zpsfb019f91.jpg.html)

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1323351_zpsd8db5d24.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1323351_zpsd8db5d24.jpg.html)

(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/mourgancrow13/20140122_1324051_zps9affea88.jpg) (http://s1150.photobucket.com/user/mourgancrow13/media/20140122_1324051_zps9affea88.jpg.html)


The guitar is in a lot worse condition than I thought it would be. The frets are as rusty as $%&# and there are a lot of chunks gone from the guitar that I wasn't told about. The scratch plate has several cracks in it also. After a restring I had a good play around on it and it plays superbly, which really surprised me considering the state of the guitar. Sustain is excellent which might be to do with how heavy the guitar is, it is much heavy than what I was expecting from swamp ash. My Epi LP is only slightly heavier.

The pickups really surprised me also. The bridge pickup is quite nice actually and not nearly as shrill as I was expecting, it can stay for a little while. The neck pickup is shitee, very lifeless and just tends to BOOM at me.

All in all I am quite disappointed, not with how it plays but with how abused and neglected she has been  :cry:
 :D

I will see about taking the guitar in somewhere to get it all nice and sparkly again  :P
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Mr. Air on January 22, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Congrats on the NGD. Hopefully you'll get the axe cleaned up and in great playing condition in the near future.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
I can't see any of the pictures on my work computer, so can only imagine what it is, but congratuations anyway!
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 22, 2014, 01:59:50 PM
The scratchplate looks kind of plain so that should be an easy replacement.  Where are the chunks you are talking about?  I see buckle rash and some wear n the V but I think once you have the scratchplate and frets sorted out you will be pretty happy with it.  It is a pretty unusual Gibson.

Sounds like it might be fairly dark sounding.  Could be a good candidate for Riff Raffs, Emeralds or Rebel Yells.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Jamie89 on January 22, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
The scratchplate looks kind of plain so that should be an easy replacement.  Where are the chunks you are talking about?  I see buckle rash and some wear n the V but I think once you have the scratchplate and frets sorted out you will be pretty happy with it.  It is a pretty unusual Gibson.

Sounds like it might be fairly dark sounding.  Could be a good candidate for Riff Raffs, Emeralds or Rebel Yells.

Top of the head stock and both horns. It pisses me off because he only stated about the buckle rash and when asked if there any other marks he said it was unmarked except for the buckle rash. I asked him what the frets were like and he said unworn but slightly discoloured. I didn't take that to mean they were going to be so rusty.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 22, 2014, 02:10:43 PM
Sounds like the seller was a real prick.

Was it ebay?

All it means really is that you probably paid more than you would have otherwise.  You are still happy to have the guitar, yeah?  It looks like a nice one.  Shame that this arsewipe didn't look after it.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2014, 02:19:26 PM
If it's eBay you can always start an "item not as described" claim and get your money back.

Might be a troublesome process if he's not cooperative, though.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Kiichi on January 22, 2014, 02:23:01 PM
Congrats man, hope you can return it to a state it deserves!
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 22, 2014, 02:28:06 PM
My pink SG Junior arrived with these really rusty strings that I would have been embarrassed to sell a guitar with. It also had one of two minor dents the seller hadn't mentioned (he had mentioned one dent).  The frets though were fine, and it cleaned up nicely, so I was okay with it.  Frets though are an expensive business and it sounds like he really misled you there, so you might have a case for some of the cost of a refret.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Jamie89 on January 22, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
It was ebay. I shall see what he suggests about the guitar first and go from there.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: dvorak on January 22, 2014, 03:22:12 PM
That is veeeery cool!

I remember drooling when they came out. Swamp ash in a V seems to be a nice choice.

I wouldn't mind the dings. Just polish the frets and clean it up!  8)
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2014, 05:29:40 PM
My favorite limited run series that Gibson ever did! Congratulations!  :D

Mine is a great player too, interestingly.

They do get scratches and nicks quite easily; they are also quite visible as the original wood is quite bright naturally. I covered some very small ones with black marker so they become more or less unnoticeable.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: dave_mc on January 22, 2014, 07:16:26 PM
Nice :D

Sorry to hear it wasn't as described, though. As philly says, in theory you should get your money back but in practice it mightn't be so simple... :( Normally Ebay does side with the buyer, though.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Jamie89 on January 22, 2014, 09:12:38 PM
Resolved the issue through ebay. I am going to keep it and he was more than happy to partially refund me a small amount for the frets. Can't wait to get her polished up and go pickup shopping...
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2014, 11:02:49 PM
Ah, it's a Voodoo!  :D  I've often been tempted to buy one (most likely the SG), but the red skull inlay always makes me a bit hesitant....

As Alex mentioned, that finish seems very susceptible to damage, I've seen lots of them with huge patches of bare wood.  Even if it was mint it would probably end up looking pretty tatty eventually.  Natural relic!
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
Ah, it's a Voodoo!  :D  I've often been tempted to buy one (most likely the SG), but the red skull inlay always makes me a bit hesitant....

As Alex mentioned, that finish seems very susceptible to damage, I've seen lots of them with huge patches of bare wood.  Even if it was mint it would probably end up looking pretty tatty eventually.  Natural relic!

I like the inlay, it makes the series unmistakeable. I probably just got used to it though. I guess it can be a deal-breaker for some though.
One thing I also like is the absence of inlays. Something very clean about that, and I don't miss them at all when playing.

Mine is also very heavy, and pieced together from at least three parts. Despite this, some Voodoos have a bit of an "ugly wood grain" on the top, at least IMO. You'd think that if Gibson is already assembling the bodies from several planks that they could pick a pretty piece for the top!
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Philly Q on January 22, 2014, 11:19:45 PM
Gibson are pretty lazy about trying to match the grain on multi-piece bodies, it's true.

But when you see some '70s Fenders (and early-'80s Japanese guitars, like Arias) with multi-piece ash bodies, they made no attempt at all to match the grain and disguise the join lines.  It's as if no-one had even thought of such a thing!
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 22, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
Whatever you do, keep the red/black pickup scheme, they look great on this guitar.

Glad to see that you got some money back toward the re-fret.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 23, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
Looks fine to me - nicely played in.  Slight rust on the frets should be able to be sorted with a fret dress/polish.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Telerocker on January 23, 2014, 01:02:59 AM
Congrats! I'm not a Gibson-man, but I dig the shape of a V and Explorer.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Jamie89 on January 23, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
I wouldn't have minded if he had been even slightly honest about the guitar,  but he wasn't. He stated to me that the guitar is otherwise unmarked. I didn't ask for money for a refret because it clearly doesn't need one, he gave me a small refund to go towards a fret dress. I could probably sort out the rust myself but the 15 fret is pitted where the e and b strings are so I might as well let someone else take care of the rust.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Dave Sloven on January 23, 2014, 01:04:47 PM
Leave him some bad feedback about his dishonesty
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: Philly Q on January 23, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
I had a (slightly) similar situation.... where I was the seller!

A couple of months ago I got a Korean SG copy in part exchange for another guitar and just put it straight on eBay (without looking at it very carefully, but it seemed to be in working order).  When I sold it and sent it to the buyer, one of the frets had dropped out in transit and it turned out some of the others might also be a bit loose!  He was quoted about £50 to sort out the loose fret(s) but since the guitar itself wasn't worth much more than that I just got him to send it back and returned all his money.

No idea what to do with the guitar now....!

I'm not trying to defend bad eBay sellers, but it was a lesson to me that you can never be too careful!  I normally describe things in minute detail, especially if they're 99% mint and only have one or two tiny scratches.  But this was a rare case where, because I didn't think the guitar was worth anything anyway, I simply didn't look at it closely enough.  If I'd realised there was a problem I could've sold it as a "project/repair" item and probably have got almost as much for it, without the hassle.
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: dave_mc on January 23, 2014, 07:07:51 PM
Glad to hear you got it sorted to your satisfaction :)
Title: Re: NGD... Finally
Post by: NjuiMusic on January 29, 2014, 01:27:55 AM
That is a super sexy Gibson! omg you lucky person!