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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Philly Q on January 27, 2014, 02:54:21 PM
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I've used just about every version of Windows over the years and never had any problem transitioning from one to another.
But Windows 8 is shite.
Bloody Microsoft pandering to bloody iPad users.
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Really? I reckon its the best one since XP, it did take me a short period to get used to it though. The lack of a proper start menu was annoying but a 3rd party program soon sorted that out
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The lack of a Start menu is hugely irritating, and that thing where you stick the mouse in a corner and it makes a menu appear only seems to work half of the time.
And it has these things it calls "apps", which make me think of iPhones and iPads.... and since I've never used an iPhone or iPad, and don't know how, I see the term "app" and my instinctive reaction is to steer clear of it.
I've used XP for years, I use Windows 7 in work and have no trouble at all, why did they have to bring in all this "app" rubbish?
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I don't use their start menu so I can stay clear of that shite. I recommend the program Vistart, it gives you a proper start menu and allows you to go straight to the desktop view upon startup.
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Thanks, I shall investigate that if I'm still struggling with Windows 8 once I get used to it.
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Things I never thought I would end up saying about technology: I am with Philly on this one.
Seriously, I share pretty much everything he said and I am what they call a digital native...
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Didn't they release an update to fix that? Like Windows 8.1?
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Didn't they release an update to fix that? Like Windows 8.1?
Far as I know it got a bit better, but still kinda sucks. Honestly I have not been bothered to install it myself, only heard about it. I do use the Startmenue X though. Not perfect by any means, but an improvement over that bloody tablet thing.
Guess we gotta rely on the old Windows rule: Every second version sucks. Case and point: 95 - meh; 98 - classic; ME - kill it, kill it with fire..........did I mention F*CK IT WITH A RUSTY PIPE; XP - cool; Vista - $%&# it to hell; 7 - welcome back; 8 - wtf MS, seriously, the f*ck; 9 - dare we hope?
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Didn't they release an update to fix that? Like Windows 8.1?
Far as I know it got a bit better, but still kinda sucks. Honestly I have not been bothered to install it myself, only heard about it. I do use the Startmenue X though. Not perfect by any means, but an improvement over that bloody tablet thing.
Guess we gotta rely on the old Windows rule: Every second version sucks. Case and point: 95 - meh; 98 - classic; ME - kill it, kill it with fire..........did I mention F*CK IT WITH A RUSTY PIPE; XP - cool; Vista - $%&# it to hell; 7 - welcome back; 8 - wtf MS, seriously, the f*ck; 9 - dare we hope?
That sums it up quite accurate! :lol:
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Windows 8.1 has some kind of right click start menu that has everything on it... apart from the "all programs" bit... *slow clapping*
I could probably get used to it but on a desktop PC I don't see the point of windows 8 over 7
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Guess we gotta rely on the old Windows rule: Every second version sucks. Case and point: 95 - meh; 98 - classic; ME - kill it, kill it with fire..........did I mention F*CK IT WITH A RUSTY PIPE; XP - cool; Vista - $%&# it to hell; 7 - welcome back; 8 - wtf MS, seriously, the f*ck; 9 - dare we hope?
Yep, that's pretty much my experience (although I never even tried Vista). My heart sank when they announced 8, I knew I should've got a new PC when 7 was out. :|
I could probably get used to it but on a desktop PC I don't see the point of windows 8 over 7
Exactly.... and it's all about the desktop for me...
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I'm with you, PQ.
I now own 2 Windows 8.1 machines, one laptop and a DAW that I'm in the process of building. I got the laptop a few months ago, so I've gotten used to it a little.
I'm an old Windows systems administrator - Win8 was the first time in decades I've come across a Windows OS and thought "WTF?!?!". It's so counter intuitive to me.
But there are tweeks - you can set it to always boot to desktop. You can also set it to open up the application list (not the tile screen) when you hit the Windows key. And as others have mentioned, there are 3rd party apps that make it look way more Windows 7, which is a great OS.
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I suppose I'll get used to it, but it's frustrating how they basically just drop you in at the deep end and expect you to cope. And the way they send new computers and software nowadays.... almost no paperwork, no "instruction manual" to speak of. This new PC supposedly has a trial version of Microsoft Office on it, for example, but Dell don't provide an activation key so I can't even access it (unless I am just being spectacularly thick....)
Yes, we're all now used to learning by trial and error I suppose, but there's so much that you just never learn or even become aware of.
I had a look at that "Vistart" Jamie mentioned, it looks OK but with things like that I worry that they're going to cause problems with Windows updates etc?
I'll probably just save some shortcuts to the desktop and then go straight to desktop from that stupid "apps screen" or whatever the hell they call it.
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You can still buy Windows 7 on Amazon or so for less than a 100 quid.
Windows 7 is my favorite version. I haven't used 8 though, since my newest computer is a Mac.
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It took a while to get used to but it's alright. If I need a progr...app that I've not shortcutted on my desktop I just hit the windows key and start typing the name of it. It finds it quick enough.
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It took a while to get used to but it's alright. If I need a progr...app that I've not shortcutted on my desktop I just hit the windows key and start typing the name of it. It finds it quick enough.
Yeah, and that's a fair point. It's a different mindset to "old" Windows. But some of the functionality is actually quite cool.
It just seems to have been done in a disjointed way. For example, some apps will run in the metro view, but some won't - meaning that the system will switch between the 2 views depending on what you want to do. An the metro view only displays certain app properties if you need to change something, and if it doesn't like what you are doing it'll force you to open it in the desktop mode!!!
So just give me the desktop mode!!!
Ah. Still prefer MS to Apple.
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Personally, I've found windows 8 to be an absolute abomination. People have been using Windows machines for over 20 years, and the changes to the user interface have been gradual and, generally, intuitive. I disliked the changes they made to office when they scr@pped all the standard drop down menus, but i was able to get used to it. Windows 8 is different. I can't figure it out at all! It's like if Ford suddenly brought out a new car with the clutch pedal hidden behind the passenger seat and the handbrake only available if you buy one from Honda.
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I had a look at that "Vistart" Jamie mentioned, it looks OK but with things like that I worry that they're going to cause problems with Windows updates etc?
I'll probably just save some shortcuts to the desktop and then go straight to desktop from that stupid "apps screen" or whatever the hell they call it.
I have had Vistart from day 1 and never had any problems with windows updating.
I may just like Windows 8 more than previous versions, because it caters for my touch screen laptop better than 7 did. Also a lot of my old games and programs tend to work so much better on 8 in compatibility mode than they ever did on 7 and vista, some of which wouldn't work at all.
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I've been using windows 8 since it was in the public beta stages.
Whilst the lack of a traditional start menu is annoying (fixable with one quick registry edit or at least it was) it is by far the most efficient version of windows released since XP.
The resource management is fantastic and the general speed of processes is a very welcome change after they slowed it to a crawl with every release since 98.
Initially i hated the new start screen but as i've used it more it has become really intuitive. However my PC does have a touchscreen monitor which would explain that.
The best thing though is the fact it cold boots to the desktop in about 10 seconds.
However one thing that is sorely missing is all of the lovely transparencies from vista/7
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Had a play with this on a 65" Phillips Touch Screen yesterday.
AWESOME!!
Paddy
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Had a play with this on a 65" Phillips Touch Screen yesterday.
AWESOME!!
Paddy
Sixty five inches? You're just bragging now...
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I decided to "upgrade" from 8 to 8.1 yesterday.
Didn't cost anything, sounded simple enough - it even directed me to the free upgrade in the "Windows Store".... except I couldn't find it in the Windows Store (I did see hundreds of brightly coloured, utterly incomprehensible apps). The Windows Store appears to have no search facility....? :?
So, a bit of Googling to finally find a link to download Windows 8.1..... started the process then it said I'm not an administrator. WTF???!!! If I'm not the administrator on my computer then who the hell is? I was absolutely furious by this stage, yelling at the screen and kicking things around the room (sorry neighbours). :x
More Googling and I found info showing this is not a unique problem, and offering various solutions... one of which worked. Hooray.
So now I have Windows 8.1 and a start button, of sorts. It's a little better, but I may still download a Windows 7 style start menu.
I think one of the things I find most frustrating is that in previous versions of Windows I was either on my C drive or on the internet, it was clear cut. Now in Windows 8 it's much more of a grey area - you click on something which you think is on your machine, and you're in some bloody Xbox store. Or you go somewhere else and it prompts you to download "updates" but it doesn't tell you what it is, if it's something already on your machine or something entirely new. Everything is a little coloured box with a picture in it, I just want a boring old screen with some old-fashioned words to explain what the hell is going on.
And what's this thing about "cloud storage" for pictures and documents? It sounds almost compulsory, is everything you do now copied into the "cloud" somewhere? I don't want all my stuff floating around in the ether for someone else to nosey into.
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Yeah, Philly, bring back DOS, you knew where you stood in them days :D
(Actually this Windows 8 thing - only found out about it from this thread - sounds like a flipping nightmare!! What am I going to do when my XP box dies???!)
And don't get me started on the "cloud" - we are hastening towards what will seem like armageddon when it all goes tits-up... *sigh*
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Had a play with this on a 65" Phillips Touch Screen yesterday.
AWESOME!!
Paddy
Sixty five inches? You're just bragging now...
Yeah man! I work in AV sales and Phillips rocked up with a van full of digital signage goodies :D
Paddy