Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: peter on November 25, 2014, 09:07:58 PM
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i changed crawler bridge in les paul for black dog bridge and much better tone seperation not as much power but more agressive and crystal clear on clean
im happy i made the change :D and i have mule neck they blend good i told the people who make them i had mule neck and wanted them to match and they do pretty well
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Indeed the Black Dog is much brighter and lower output than the Crawler (bridge models). I generally hear the Black Dog bridge as a bright pickup, more so than the product description indicates.
The Crawler bridge is darker, fatter and more compressed. It's the pickup of choice if you want to fatten up a guitar's tone without going super high output.
Cheers Stephan
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BD is pretty bright alright. :cheesy:
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Indeed the Black Dog is much brighter and lower output than the Crawler (bridge models). I generally hear the Black Dog bridge as a bright pickup, more so than the product description indicates.
Cheers Stephan
How bright is BD? I`ve heard that apparently is a bit brighter than RY bridge even.
Would BD be fine in e.g standard Strat guitar (alder, maple, rosewood for instance)? Just forget about it`s bigger brother HD for a while :wink:
Or is mainly designed for LP style?
Darkbluemurder, As far as remember you have BD neck in dark Strat type guitar?
How would you describe BD neck?
cheers
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IMO not so much "bright" as very clear on the treble end.
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IMO not so much "bright" as very clear on the treble end.
what type of guitar did you have it in?
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Indeed the Black Dog is much brighter and lower output than the Crawler (bridge models). I generally hear the Black Dog bridge as a bright pickup, more so than the product description indicates.
The Crawler bridge is darker, fatter and more compressed. It's the pickup of choice if you want to fatten up a guitar's tone without going super high output.
Cheers Stephan
Crawler in a Les Paul is always a gamble. I think it performs best in bolt on alder/ash guitars or in brighter sounding PRS's.
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How bright is BD? I`ve heard that apparently is a bit brighter than RY bridge even.
Would BD be fine in e.g standard Strat guitar (alder, maple, rosewood for instance)?
Darkbluemurder, As far as remember you have BD neck in dark Strat type guitar?
How would you describe BD neck?
No, that was a BD bridge in the dark strat - and in the bridge position. It worked well there because it balanced the darkness of the guitar. I have not tried it in a "medium bright" or "bright" strat but I can imagine it would work there too - maybe with a 250k volume pot. I have not tried it in the same guitar as the RY bridge.
The BD neck was in the Single Cut but has now been replaced with a Riff Raff neck. The BD neck is very clear and bright but not necessarily vintage in character. Certainly not something I would use in the bridge position.
Cheers Stephan
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Darkbluemurder, as there`s not much info about BD neck, would you describe how BD neck copes with leads?
Some time ago someone has stated that due to emphasis in mids, BD in general are good soloing pickups.
thanks
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IMO not so much "bright" as very clear on the treble end.
what type of guitar did you have it in?
I have it in an ESP Eclipse now.
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as there`s not much info about BD neck,
Here is my review, from having tried it in two different guitars:
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=29163
would you describe how BD neck copes with leads?
Some time ago someone has stated that due to emphasis in mids, BD in general are good soloing pickups.
thanks
I think it copes very well with leads even though I don't really hear an emphasis in midrange with this pickup, at least not with the neck version. The mids are there, not scooped but a bit subdued.
Cheers Stephan
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Many thanks!
And PRS is quite brighter than LP due to less amount of wood, is that right (although same types of wood are used)? Never played PRS, dont laugh :grin:
Would you describe it as something in between LP and Strat when it comes to balance between dark and bright?
Just trying to gather more info about BD as well as trying to figure out where it suits the best
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WOW BD brighter than a RY in the bridge ? Seriously anybody have any deeper experience with the two ? Reason I ask is I only own the RY set in a LP and Im about to buy a 2nd LP and my 2nd BK set. Been thinking BD with a RY neck or maybe just a Mule set. Im seriously pleased with RY set :wink:
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WOW BD brighter than a RY in the bridge ? Seriously anybody have any deeper experience with the two ? Reason I ask is I only own the RY set in a LP and Im about to buy a 2nd LP and my 2nd BK set. Been thinking BD with a RY neck or maybe just a Mule set. Im seriously pleased with RY set :wink:
I never had any experience with any of them, but when I was asking Ben from BKP about BD bridge, he said that BD is slightly brighter than RY bridge.
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Yeh, the BD is quite bright. Actually the only BKP i didn't like, ton of low mids, thin on the high mids and then fairly bright. Too much unbalance for me. It does the Led Zep riffs like a boss though, if that is what you want.
The Mule for more PAF classic rock or Abraxas for more midrange Classic Rock.
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It must really depend on the guitar, with regard to the Black dog bridge, I think. Because I have one and have never found it to be overly bright (although I have heard other people say its bright!). Sure, there are plenty of high frequencies there (so it's definitely not dull sounding), but it has lots of low-mids and bass. I find it to be a really fat sounding pickup. It is true that there aren't lots of high mids, but I wonder if it really depends on the guitar - ie, if the guitar has a reasonable amount of high mids then it sounds great, but if the guitar is quite scooped in high-mids then you just get lots of highs and lows!! FWIW it's one of my favourite BKP's, throaty and fat, very open sounding with great note separation, etc.
Comparing it to the RY and Crawler bridges (I've had a crawler and still have a rebel yell too), the crawler is a bit darker and probably more balanced and 'even' over all frequencies, but to my ear that made it sound a bit characterless. The rebel yell is a much more 'shouty' pickup - lots more high mids and so much more cut to the sound, and a bit more compressed as its higher output than the BD. I would say the RY and BD are fairly similar in amounts of highs though, just very different in mid focus.
Just my thoughts :)