Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: wwwales on May 16, 2005, 08:54:17 PM
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Hi,
I love the sound of the nailbomb (from listening to the demos that people have uploaded) and was hoping someone could give me an idea on how different they sound to the warpig pickup?
FYI bridge position on a Fender Strat.
Thanks in advance!
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I think the difference would be:
Nailbomb: wide, big sound
Warpig: tight, punchy bass
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Ditto.
The Warpig has a far more focused and saturated tone with more output too.
We've had great success with Nailbombs going into the bridges of Strats-they really fatten them up without losing too much Strat cut.
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Yeah. However nailbombs can be tight and punchy too. I have a set myself and i can get them pretty punchy.
However im thinking of getting warpigs for my next guitar. Im looking for the tone that the dillinger escape plan have in calculating infinity which is via emgs and i know warpigs are good contenders.
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I'm also really curious about Warpigs VS Nailbomb...
From the clips I've heard nailbombs sond quite nice, but I havn't heard the warpig yet...
By "tight punchy bass" would that mean you get quite a bit of chug?
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Plenty of chug in the Warpig. It's a punch in the gut. PDT_022
When your guitar is down tuned you'll get that St. Anger sound but without the metallic 'clang' sound.
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Great! I tune down a step, and I'm a man who loves my chug :twisted:
I have a sneaking suspicion I'll end up with warpigs, even though I havn't heard them yet...
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You can chug like a mutha on Warpigs PDT_045
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Yeah. However nailbombs can be tight and punchy too. I have a set myself and i can get them pretty punchy.
However im thinking of getting warpigs for my next guitar. Im looking for the tone that the dillinger escape plan have in calculating infinity which is via emgs and i know warpigs are good contenders.
Don't forget the Miracle Man!
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And how about a WarPig in the bridge and a Nailbomb in the neck?
Would that be a good combination, or would it be too much of a contrast?
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Descriptions like "tight, punchy bass" and "more focused and saturated tone with more output" give me warm feelings about a Warpig for my Gibson LP Std's bridge (I often tune down as much as a step and love a good crunch and chug; one suspects there's plenty of 'tude there for solos, as well). On the other hand, I "don't forget the Miracle Man", which I'm guessing might be a bit more defined than the Warpig?
The first thing that ever made me frown at my stock Gibson pickups was the way they felt a bit mushy and blurry at high gain; I've been looking for something that would give a serious whop to the gut in powerchordland, keep the strings defined at high gain, but still stay sweet and clear when clean. I didn't warm to the Duncans and DiMarzios, I looked at, and even after Gibson's Iommi pup came out in the late 90s to reviews suggesting a mix of defined crunch and sweet clean like I was hoping to find, I never felt quite sufficiently inspired to take the plunge.
Now I feel like the Warpig -- or possibly Miracle Man? -- might at last fulfill my bridge pickup lusts. I'm interested to learn more about the fine distinctions there. For the neck, where I'm keen for creamier, more "womany" (though still rockin') tones ... well, I've read reviews on Harmony Central from BKP users who are very happy with the versatility of combining a Mule in the neck with a Warpig or Miracle Man in the bridge (though I've thought about a neck Crawler, too). I just feel like I need to focus in on the distinctions between the various pickups I think might work in the coming months while I save up. (I've got just the one guitar, so I'm keen to load it at last with solid yet relatively versatile pickups!)
Cheers,
Carl
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I love the Miracle man, I have one on my Charvel. Usually down a half step, but often down a full step with a EVH D-Tuna taking the bottom string to C....
The Miracle Man has huge low mid thump. It's almost like going from a combo to a stack in terms of low end. It's slightly lower output seems to let the amp breath a bit more. Great for metal leads as it stays well defined and fat sounding. I actually think the frequency response of this pickup makes it sound fatter than the 'pig on lead lines. The ceramic seems more 'in focus'.
The Warpig's a monster, and I prefer it for metal rhythm, it chugs better than anything else on the market!
Best high gain all-rounder is the Nailbomb - great pickup, but don't want to confuse the issue by going there....but you could look at a Nailbomb neck pickup, around 10k of awsome tone!
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The Warpig's a monster, and I prefer it for metal rhythm, it chugs better than anything else on the market!
I'm backing that up.
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The Miracle Man has huge low mid thump. It's almost like going from a combo to a stack in terms of low end. It's slightly lower output seems to let the amp breath a bit more. Great for metal leads as it stays well defined and fat sounding. I actually think the frequency response of this pickup makes it sound fatter than the 'pig on lead lines. The ceramic seems more 'in focus'.
Certainly the MOST focused ceramic pup I have ever played!!
I didn't experience that lower midrange hump, tho ... then again, my guitar is all maple, and doesn't really have much in terms of absolute bottom.
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Probably, I've got the miracle man in a mahogany bodied guitar -and teh only other Miracle Man I've played was Tim's Foster Les Paul - so some of the midrange tone is in the guitar.
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Couldn't agree more-we're back to the effect of timber in the tone equation here and tight vs open grain.
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I just put a set of Miracle Men in a mahogany explorer and they do sound a bit lighter than in Tim's Les Paul. Of course I also heard his Les Paul through his Zakk Wylde Marshall, which will be different to my Silver Jubilee :good:
Overall though the tone is incredible, and this is in a Richwood explorer that I picked up on e-bay for 110 quid! It is a set neck guitar, and it really sounds amazing with the Miracle Men. The neck is the Alnico V version, and this gets incredibly blusey when you back it off slightly. Also the clean tone from these is really great, bright from the ceramic and just fat and warm from the Alnico.
I would go with a calibrated set of these PDT_042
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I think the difference would be:
Nailbomb: wide, big sound
Warpig: tight, punchy bass
and how you compare the mule to this other two?
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I think the difference would be:
Nailbomb: wide, big sound
Warpig: tight, punchy bass
and how you compare the mule to this other two?
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From what I have learnt here. The Mule is based on the vintage Gibson PAF. Not really what I would choose for thrash. I'm not the expert here though :wink:
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Thank´s Johnny
what kind of musical styles do you enjoy listening?
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Thank´s Johnny
what kind of musical styles do you enjoy listening?
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I love loads of styles. Anything with a good guitar sound in really. I do like thrash from the 80's. Anthrax were my favorites! Saw them 3 times and Metallica once.
Also Van Halen. Saw them once. Man it was brilliant!
Black Label Society, saw them 2 weeks ago in London. They are incredible!
Also led zepp, cream, hendrix all that classic stuff really oh and The Who musn't forget them! Saw them once in 1989 with Kenny Jones on the drums.
Oh and The Sex Pistols! It's really how it all started for me. I saw them 3 years ago and I loved it!!!
Check out this interveiw with Steve Jones http://www.cookandjones.co.uk/steve_interview2002.htm
It's very funny (well it is to me :roll: )
Are you a thrash/death man through and through? Sepultura inspired?
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Yah man, i liked your influencies.
i have different musical approaches that influences me different
i have a huge blackmetal melodic influence, a lot of death and thrash way of playing, and some personal way of attack strings in palm mute situations. not like ONLY Downstrokes. i attack the strings down and up strokes with the same or more speed.
i want to post some clips here in teh forum, but they are not BK pickups, SD ones and i´m not sure people here will appreciate
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I can send you the clips.
j.p
i have duncans and emgs. i had dimarzios too .
Thank´s Johnny
what kind of musical styles do you enjoy listening?
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I love loads of styles. Anything with a good guitar sound in really. I do like thrash from the 80's. Anthrax were my favorites! Saw them 3 times and Metallica once.
Also Van Halen. Saw them once. Man it was brilliant!
Black Label Society, saw them 2 weeks ago in London. They are incredible!
Also led zepp, cream, hendrix all that classic stuff really oh and The Who musn't forget them! Saw them once in 1989 with Kenny Jones on the drums.
Are you a thrash/death man through and through? Sepultura inspired?
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Johnny's right. The Mule is a classic PAF style pickup.
I'd go for a Miracle Man or Warpig for thrash, death and other kinds of metal.
If you do alot of speed riffing and soloing, the Miracle Man would be the better choise, i think. The ceramic magnet will cut more.