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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 09:25:59 AM

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 09:25:59 AM

When I run my Boss Delay into the loop of the Engl Powerball, the delay repeats seem to be coloured by a murky distortion. Any ideas? My Peavey 5150 MK2 works fine using the same setup. Any ideas anyone?

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: bucketshred on March 23, 2006, 10:29:28 AM

Tried it in front of the amp?

Andy!

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: lepersmeesa on March 23, 2006, 11:46:26 AM

I think the general rule is to have delays infront of the amp. Try what Andy said.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 11:47:40 AM

I've always found delay a bit useless upfront. I'm looking to run a stereo setup which will need the loop.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: lepersmeesa on March 23, 2006, 11:50:44 AM

I would then advise you into getting something like a G Major, you can adjust the delayed sounds alot more.

I know its not the ideal solution, but it maybe the only way to make it work.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: bucketshred on March 23, 2006, 12:08:53 PM

Actually, delay is supposed to go in the loop, as with all time based effects.

It could be the lead or pedal, it may even be the amp but I doubt it.

Andy!

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 12:44:00 PM

Nah, leads are fine, so too is the pedal, as I run in the same way in my 2nd setup. It's like the pedal signal is too hot causing distortion. The Powerball has an fx mix dial, but wherever you turn it, it's the same.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: dave_mc on March 23, 2006, 05:46:20 PM

my digitech digidelay is fine in my savage se's loop...

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 06:03:35 PM

That's interesting. I'm changing the Powerball soon to a Savage 120. I'm hoping it will a bit less metal sounding and better for leads 'n stuff. My frind is a rep from Digitech, so I'll give him a buzz and try one.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: dave_mc on March 23, 2006, 08:43:33 PM

Quote from: Andy Lindsay

That's interesting. I'm changing the Powerball soon to a Savage 120. I'm hoping it will a bit less metal sounding and better for leads 'n stuff. My frind is a rep from Digitech, so I'll give him a buzz and try one.

going by my savage se (i haven't tried the savage), it's a bit less metal. Still metal, but smooth mode puts you in hard rock/melodic shred mode, as opposed to death metal. Much more versatile than the PB, imo.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: Andy Lindsay on March 23, 2006, 09:02:36 PM

I dont have the SE money at the moment. I was hoping that it would be more as you described. Look foreward to getting one.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: dave_mc on March 23, 2006, 09:45:47 PM

^i got my savage se (not an se, the savage se and se are different, lol) cheaper than a savage, lol, beyers in germany had them for a really good price. Unfortunately they're out of them now, and the savage se has been discontinued- the se is replacing it.

Title: Powerball FX loop question
Post by: steve on March 24, 2006, 09:19:34 AM

I have had this happen when the fx loop send and return level pots where set to high(trace elliot speed twin). Also check the level on the effects pedal.It may just be to much input for it, my marshall echohead pedal sounds great in the loop.