Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: lepersmeesa on March 25, 2006, 11:53:10 PM
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I recently found out that all the tones on Ashes of the Wake (lamb of god) were done with one guitar track on either side, reamped into a Mesa Mark IV, Marshall JCM 800 and a Sansamp DI. They mixed these three tones together to get the clarity and crunch on that album.
I was wondering if anyone else knew the secrets behind their favourite tones.
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I dont know about the secrets of Slashes Appetite for Destruction tone, apparently its not his usual amp though.. I'd like to know the secret :P
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I know eric johnson can hear the difference between battery brands, so I'm going to buy a new battery...
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battery? :? :lol: battery for what???
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^ pedals.
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ooooooooooh
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Apparently EVH used the Palmer PDI-03 a lot in the studio.
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I've read that Hendrix had his amps retubed with 6550s, replacing the original EL34s, which would explain why his cleans sounds brighter than the typical Marshall clean sound.
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On Appetite for Destruction Slash used a Marshall Super Lead Tremolo head. It was modded. The extra 12ax7 valve that is used for tremolo was rewired to a preamp valve. But the amp wasn't his, it was rented.
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On Appetite for Destruction Slash used a Marshall Super Lead Tremolo head. It was modded. The extra 12ax7 valve that is used for tremolo was rewired to a preamp valve. But the amp wasn't his, it was rented.
Ooh nice, cheers. Dont suppose I'll ever be able to afford one though :P
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I was wondering if anyone else knew the secrets behind their favourite tones.
Marshall type amplifier + full stack (horizontal, not vertical) + good room + lots of volume + careful mic'ing = GREAT CRUNCH TONE.
Most 'large' guitar sounds are the result of blending various mics right on the grilles (close mic) with mics further out (room/ambient mic).
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I've read that Hendrix had his amps retubed with 6550s, replacing the original EL34s, which would explain why his cleans sounds brighter than the typical Marshall clean sound.
Wasn't it KT66's that he used? A JTM45/100 with KT66's was the amp he used on Experienced.
Tom - I've worked out the mod that gets the Slash/AFD amp from an ordinary Marshall, it's not really anything that advanced. It's like a tweaked JCM800 when the extra gain stage is engaged (if you make it switchable). Personally I prefer the Silver Jubilee sound.
Personally my favourite tones are Yngwie Malmsteen's, Eddie Van Halen's and Jimi Hendrix's. Those guys had some awesome Marshall tone going on. But my overall favourite tone is Bareknuckle VHII's through my Plexi that I've tweaked a lot to make it perfect for what my ideal tone is. Unfortunately, that killer tone has yet to be captured through my recording clips, but I'm working on it :wink:
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full stack (horizontal, not vertical) + good room + lots of volume + careful mic'ing = GREAT CRUNCH TONE.
Why horizontal and not vertical? won't that just spread the sound out a bit around ur knees?
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full stack (horizontal, not vertical) + good room + lots of volume + careful mic'ing = GREAT CRUNCH TONE.
Why horizontal and not vertical? won't that just spread the sound out a bit around ur knees?
Id reckon it makes the sound more full as you can put one cab on each side of the room :twisted:
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Brian May's 1 watt 'Deacy' amp, and Jimmy Page recording the solo for Stairway with a little, I think, Fender supro champ. So much for big amps in the studio. :wink:
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I think the Stairway solo was recorded with a Tele and a Marshall super lead (modified with KT66 valves). At least that's what I read in an interview... :)
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It was the tele into the supro.
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I don´t Know BUT, my favorite tones Are :
1 - Decapitated - Nihility,
2 - Carcass - Heartwork
3 - October Tide - Grey Dawn
4 - Samael - Rebellion
5 - Sinister - Creative Killings
6 - Destruction/Kreator/-The Antichrist - Extreme Agression/Violent Revolution
7 - Cephalic Carnage - Lucid Interval
8 - Morbid ANgel - Domination
9 - Obituary - World Demise/Frozen In Time
10 - Hate - Awakening Of The Liar
11 - The Black Dahlia Murder - Miasma
12 - Vader - Reign Forever World & Revelations
These are my top distortions EVER
i know that they mainly uses EMG 81 in the bridge.. D and B tunings and Mesa boogie dual and triple rectfier Amps.
anyone want to complement the infos for me?
What do you think of the list(for the metal head ones and the ones that apreciate a $%&#ing good distortion)!?!?
Hails J.p
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Heartwork definately has awesome metal tone on it. As do most Kreator songs.
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Carlos Santana on the very first ''Santana'' album is one of my faves right now......LISTEN TO THAT RHYTHM TONE!!!!!!! :o
I know it's not exactly a secret how he got that sound, but I just saw a 'favourite tones' thread and had to post this!
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I think tone always makes sense in the context of a mix only. You can have a massive tone that makes you come and the you listen to it recorded in song context and spend hours and hours EQing to make it work.
And then you can listen to a band with a super gorgeus guitar tone, but when you listen to the guitar without the drums and bass and maybe keys, it sounds thin or boring or ...
Personally, I think amps on 5 sound better in song context than amps on 10, but that's mainly related to my experience with the UniValve, which is class A and single ended, I have unfortunately never heard the Engl beyond 3.5 :(
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IPersonally, I think amps on 5 sound better in song context than amps on 10, but that's mainly related to my experience with the UniValve, which is class A and single ended, I have unfortunately never heard the Engl beyond 3.5 :(
I agree; although mostly because I find it hard to control the noise from my amp beyond a certain level, meaning feedback and noise, or me losing concentration on my playing in order to stop said feedback - either way, not an ideal situation for myself!
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I don´t Know BUT, my favorite tones Are :
1 - Decapitated - Nihility,
Hails J.p
That is one of my favourite Death Metal albums, love the tone on it. I also have to put down Meshuggah as one of my favourite tones, oh so very tight.
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I think tone always makes sense in the context of a mix only. You can have a massive tone that makes you come and the you listen to it recorded in song context and spend hours and hours EQing to make it work.
And then you can listen to a band with a super gorgeus guitar tone, but when you listen to the guitar without the drums and bass and maybe keys, it sounds thin or boring or ...
Personally, I think amps on 5 sound better in song context than amps on 10, but that's mainly related to my experience with the UniValve, which is class A and single ended, I have unfortunately never heard the Engl beyond 3.5 :(
I know what you mean there. Alot of tones sound thin when by themselves but in a band they sound really good. This is why I hate bassy amps :shock:
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WFD - Extreme Aggressions is a GREAT album, I need to dig that one out, I remember when that came out (I still have my original vinyl copy)
I keep hearing about this band called 'Meshuggah' but I've never checked them out. I see from their website that they've been going for a good few years - what is their most brutal album?
oh, for favourite tones I'd be hard pushed to beat these...
* anything off the last Slayer record (God Hates Us All)
* Leper Messiah
* Harvester Of Sorrow
* Shoot To Thrill
* Bulls On Parade
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They are kinda fusion Thrash Metal....
i would call they have their own style. but they started as a death metal, and then, turned into thrash, and them, fusion metal.
Get the DESTROY ERASE IMPROVE ALBUM
a track called : Future Breed Machine
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EVH - All the earlier stuff(when he was using marshalls)
Gary Moore... Few tracks, i cant remember, i havent listened to gary in so long.
Guns N roses - Appetite for destruction, awesome tone.
And metal tones
Arch Enemy - Anthems of rebellion
Children of Bodom - Are you dead yet
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i agree with guns n roses appettie for destruction
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It was the tele into the supro.
And what a tone it was, that '58 tele and the Supro made some magic sounds in Mr Page's hands. I love how he managed to thicken it up with delay, and the plethora of sounds available from such a simple guitar... the only bit of Led Zep I that still eludes me is the lead tone on "You Shook Me", but I've almost got it sussed, almost...
Danny Gatton sounded pretty good to my ears, there was a bright snappy snarl, but it was still really ballsy.
I also dig Roy Buchanan's tone quite a bit, again more telecasterness. Seeing a pattern? :lol:
That said, I really think Clapton's "woman tone" was the mutts nuts. A guitar that can do all of the above is my holy grail, and I reckon I'll be damn close to it in a couple of months when I sort out a new Warmoth body and a new neck pickup. 8)
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Hmmm favourite tones,
Roy Buchanan his version of Hey Joe.
Rory Galagher, AC30s when theyre pushed are soo nice.
Clapton, blues breakers (18 watts of pure joy), Cream
Byrds circa 1967
Dave Gregory from XTC, so many classy tones
Early Santana
Billy Gibbons pre Eliminator
Eric Sardenis (sorry about spelling)
Leslie West (P90 Heaven)
And of course Mr Gilmour
Rob...
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Kreator - Enemy Of God
Paul Gilbert - Superheroes
Fear Factory - Obsolete
Andy Timmons - anything, his tone is great
Megadeth - Countdown To Extinction
Rob Balducci - Colour of Light
Arch Enemy - the new album which i can't remeber the name of, haha
Led Zepplin - Zosos
Alexi Laiho - Follow The Reaper
SRV - texas flood
Shawn Lane - Power of Ten
Judas Priest - Painkiller
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Dave Mustaine's tone on the Rude Awakening DVd is pretty killer
Satch's tone on AWMAWY.
Vai's tone on Touching tongues.
Zakk's tone on No More Tears.
Sikth's tone.
Pepper Keenan's tone on Vote for a Bullet.
I want my tone to be an anglamation of all those.
Andy!
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Dave Mustaine's tone on the Rude Awakening DVd is pretty killer
Satch's tone on AWMAWY.
Vai's tone on Touching tongues.
Zakk's tone on No More Tears.
Sikth's tone.
Pepper Keenan's tone on Vote for a Bullet.
I want my tone to be an anglamation of all those.
Andy!
Rude awakening? really? i thought his lead tone was really thin and shrill on that.
Wait till you hear the new Sikth album, i shall say nothing more :wink:
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I agree with kreator and Judas priest BUT, Megadeth has only a GOOD guitar tone on RUST in peace cd. the rest is digital cr@p
lifeless tone
and a lot fizzy without boldness distortion
Q:(
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I keep hearing about this band called 'Meshuggah' but I've never checked them out. I see from their website that they've been going for a good few years - what is their most brutal album?
'Nothing' is a brutal album - better production than Destroy,Erase,Improve but if you can get hold of a song caled 'War' it will give you a good idea of how heavy they are!
I've always liked Nuno's tone on pornogrffitti. But his tone of the next album was a bit too dry for me.
Vai on Blue Powder is also a favourite.
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I'll probably get slated for saying it, but I always liked Wes Borland's tone on Rollin (even if the album is dogshite).
Adam Jones' sound on Lateralus always sounds good to me.
David Gilmour on The Wall (everything after sounded too processed)
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And what a tone it was, that '58 tele and the Supro made some magic sounds in Mr Page's hands.
This cuts to the real problem: great players have great tone not least because they're great players! Hendrix could step off a cloud and hand me his axe and I could make it sound like ass. :cry: On the other hand, Hendrix could probably plug a plank of wood into a Marshall belt-clip jobbie and make it sound good. :P
So, basically, I need to keep practicing! :roll:
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You need my Unholy Instruction book of hellish values and infamous scales.
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J/K!
JP
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It was the tele into the supro.
That's what I thought
How about this - Satriani's Cryin' tone was a bloody Zoom - that really makes me hate the guy!! :lol:
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David Gilmour on The Wall (everything after sounded too processed)
How can you say that about The Final Cut - that's the most raw tone he ever used!
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I don't consider The Final Cut to be a proper Floyd album, and listening to it there isn't much of the Gilmour magic or much guitar at all (I like the solo on The Flectcher Memorial Home though). The reason is that the band had practically broken up by that point - if you can wind up the normally relaxed Nick Mason then it must have been a bad atmosphere.
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Gilmour's solo tone on 'Mother' is pretty tasty and here's a few other I forgot...
* Townsend on the whole Live At Leeds album
* Hendrix on almost anything, but the start of 'if 6 where 9' is from hell.
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One of favorites.
Ty Tabor- He just has ungodly cool tone. One of his secrets is he keeps the preamp from these Fender active pickups in his rack. He calls it the secret to his tone. I don't think all the downtuning hurts either. He said in Guitar Player that he goes as low as Drop G. That's bowel shakingly low.
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Ah I can't believe I forgot Live at Leeds.... that SG with P-90 tone is to die for, and I should know. :wink:
I think Jeff Beck has always had a good tone regardless of what kit he was using as well.
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New Sikth album is gonna be killer, havent heard it mixed or mastered properly, but even for the rough mixes it sounded awesome.
The best album i tell people to listen to, to get into meshuaggh is chaosphere. It hasnt completely gone in to their slow poly's but is more like poly groove thrash ( in some parts ). Listen to New Millenium Cyanide Christ, Stengah and Future Breed Machine. Decide which you like the most then buy that album. You wont regret it.
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Tewboss^. I agree completely, dispaite Limp Bizkit blowing more often then not, Wes is a killer guitarist and has some awesome tone.
Def Leppard "High N Dry" was a very edgy raw tone.
I also thought that the guitars on St Anger sounded as meaty as hell.
Eric Johnson is a tone king aswell. 8)
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One of favorites.
Ty Tabor- He just has ungodly cool tone. One of his secrets is he keeps the preamp from these Fender active pickups in his rack. He calls it the secret to his tone. I don't think all the downtuning hurts either. He said in Guitar Player that he goes as low as Drop G. That's bowel shakingly low.
I agree, his tone is fantastic. I saw them (King X) support Anthrax years ago and they were incredible!
Jim Martim from Faith No More had a great tone as well.
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I know That, for Trey´s favorite Stratty ultra glassy and weird tone for leads..
he uses a marshall micked through a fan.
i have a pic of it.
just need to check.
Trey azagthoth-morbid angel mastermind.
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Another vote for Ty - Kings X are an incredible, underrated band.
Also, Dave Gilmours tone on the Paul McCartney track "No More Lonely Nights" is incredible.
However, my all time favourite is Gary Moores tone on Wild Frontier. Not at all sure how he got it, but I suspect it was fingers rather than technology...
Mark.
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Dan from the Black Keys.
There's a couple of bits in Becks "Odelay" that were pretty good too.
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Stevie Ray Vaughan always had a fantastic tone, as well as Hendrix. Of course, those guys could have probably plugged into a cardboard box and managed to get a decent sound out of it.
David Gimour in Comfortably Numb is a tone monster for me.
I like Jimmy Page in Since I've Been Loving You.
Dimebag Darrell seemed to be at his pinnacle on Far Beyond Driven. That CD is full of massive tone.
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Dave Mustaine's tone on the Rude Awakening DVd is pretty killer
Satch's tone on AWMAWY.
Vai's tone on Touching tongues.
Zakk's tone on No More Tears.
Sikth's tone.
Pepper Keenan's tone on Vote for a Bullet.
I want my tone to be an anglamation of all those.
Andy!
Rude awakening? really? i thought his lead tone was really thin and shrill on that.
Wait till you hear the new Sikth album, i shall say nothing more :wink:
Diezel on that one perhaps ?
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I don´t Know BUT, my favorite tones Are :
1 - Decapitated - Nihility,
2 - Carcass - Heartwork
3 - October Tide - Grey Dawn
4 - Samael - Rebellion
5 - Sinister - Creative Killings
6 - Destruction/Kreator/-The Antichrist - Extreme Agression/Violent Revolution
7 - Cephalic Carnage - Lucid Interval
8 - Morbid ANgel - Domination
9 - Obituary - World Demise/Frozen In Time
10 - Hate - Awakening Of The Liar
11 - The Black Dahlia Murder - Miasma
12 - Vader - Reign Forever World & Revelations
These are my top distortions EVER
i know that they mainly uses EMG 81 in the bridge.. D and B tunings and Mesa boogie dual and triple rectfier Amps.
anyone want to complement the infos for me?
What do you think of the list(for the metal head ones and the ones that apreciate a #$%!& good distortion)!?!?
Hails J.p
In reply to your list:
Morbid Angel's "Covenant" guitar tone crushes all other Morbid Angel album guitar tones, so FVCKING RAW!! You can't beat that album really. Gateways to Annihilation has a pretty brutal tone, but nothing can beat the raw savagery of "Covenant." "Domination," IMO, is the poorest album that Morbid Angel ever put out; it lacks in every department...
As for Vader, well, I would say "The Ultimate Incantation." "Black to the Blind" and "Litany" are pretty good though.
I will agree that Decapitated's "Nihility" has a pretty sick and tight tone, but the musicianship, while also tight, lacks so much creativity it is really pathetic (as do all of Decaptiated's releases) - that is another story, however.
"Lucid Interval" has awesome tone, i will fully agree with you there.
For Samael i am going to have to say either "Worship Him" or "Blood Ritual." I am much more a fan of Samael's Black Metal material, though, so i suppose it is understandable. I would definitely say "Worship Him" wins out of the two though; get it on vinyl, it is really great on vinyl!
"The Antichrist" just has sickness written all over it, so yeah, definitely a good choice there.
While I hate Mille's vox i have to admit the guitars on all of the early Kreator stuff is just phenomenal.
Obituary is ok, but i wouldn't personally say that the guitar tone is off the wall awesome.
Old school Sinister is pretty good, but i can't comment on that album. However, i have heard it is atrocious, so i have no interest in it.
I can't stand any of the other bands, least of all BDM (they just hopped on the band wagon with tone and riffs - their tone, IMO, is as cliched as their riffs are)
So my top Death Metal tones of all time would have to be (in no particular order):
Nihilist (Swe) - ALL demo material (simply the most crushing tone EVAR!)
Morbid Angel- Covenant (if you hadn't already guessed)
Asphyx (Hol) - Last one on Earth
Possessed - Seven Churches
Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate
Top Black Metal tones of all time (no order, well, 'cept for the first one):
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky (all time favorite)
Immortal (Nor) - Pure Holocaust
Katharsis - Kruzifixxion (raw as all hell!!)
Blut Aus Nord - The Mystical Beast of Rebellion
Belketre - March to the Black Holocaust
Top Thrash tones (no order):
Possessed - Seven Churches
Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death
Destruction - The Antichrist (yeah that's right, its that good! Hails JP!)
Top Speed Metal Tones!!!:
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (!!!!!!!!!!)
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Helloween - Walls of Jericho
Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction
Blind Guardian - Battalions of Fear
I will add one more because it kind of straddles the lines in between Death and Black Metal:
Bethlehem - Dark Metal
EDIT: I don't know what most of these guys used to get their tones. However, the rawer stuff i know is just attributable to the fact that they had horrible recording equipment. I do know, however, that Immortal tuned up all their guitars half a step to make their tone even more trebly and cutting (and cutting it is!).
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Oh boy. I don't know much about "tone secrets" but I can mention a few factors I like in tone and some players who's tone I really like.
I can't stand when there's an earpiercing amount of "bite" (AC/DC) or when it's sterile, scooped and lifeless (Metallica/Pantera/Slayer) or when it comes from a strat or a tele (I'm dead serious here). I may come to buy a Trilogy Suite for the name alone at some point in the future, but as for now, I have no desire for single coil tones. I appreciate thickness and organicness at all times. Great harmonic responce is essential for soloing, IMO, but I wouldn't sacrifice tone for hotness.
Good metal tone to me is saturated but not fuzzy, tight but not sterile, and has a certain percussiveness without being brittle. Iced Earth's Framing Armageddon rythm tone is a prime example of this. I also really like Megadeth's tone on Countdown and Youth, aswell as John Sykes' famous 1987 tone.
Good lead sound comes more from the fingers than anything else. I can't pinpoint exactly what I like about Vai's tone, I just know I really like it. And I've heard lots of players with practically the same gear having a terribly sterile tone. Likewise, Shawn Lane always had incredible tone no matter what he played.
I've been a fan of Al Di Meola's tone since the first time I heard him play. Especially the "screaming Les Paul" type sound he had before going all buttery with the PRSes.
Paul Gilbert had awful tone back in the day, then gradually improved and if it wasnt for the fuzzy Marshall factor he seems to like nowadays, his tone would finally be on par with his playing. Tonewise, he really shines on the album he did with Jimi Kidd. I think he was using his Pat Metheny model on that album.
When it comes to cleans, I can't really point anyone out. Most players use effects too much on their clean sound, probably to cover up the lack of organicness from their pickups (looking in your way, Petrucci). But good clean tone isn't hard. Put a les paul through a class A tube amp and you're there.
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Oh boy. I don't know much about "tone secrets" but I can mention a few factors I like in tone and some players who's tone I really like.
I can't stand when there's an earpiercing amount of "bite" (AC/DC) or when it's sterile, scooped and lifeless (Metallica/Pantera/Slayer) or when it comes from a strat or a tele (I'm dead serious here). I may come to buy a Trilogy Suite for the name alone at some point in the future, but as for now, I have no desire for single coil tones. I appreciate thickness and organicness at all times. Great harmonic responce is essential for soloing, IMO, but I wouldn't sacrifice tone for hotness.
Good metal tone to me is saturated but not fuzzy, tight but not sterile, and has a certain percussiveness without being brittle. Iced Earth's Framing Armageddon rythm tone is a prime example of this. I also really like Megadeth's tone on Countdown and Youth, aswell as John Sykes' famous 1987 tone.
Good lead sound comes more from the fingers than anything else. I can't pinpoint exactly what I like about Vai's tone, I just know I really like it. And I've heard lots of players with practically the same gear having a terribly sterile tone. Likewise, Shawn Lane always had incredible tone no matter what he played.
I've been a fan of Al Di Meola's tone since the first time I heard him play. Especially the "screaming Les Paul" type sound he had before going all buttery with the PRSes.
Paul Gilbert had awful tone back in the day, then gradually improved and if it wasnt for the fuzzy Marshall factor he seems to like nowadays, his tone would finally be on par with his playing. Tonewise, he really shines on the album he did with Jimi Kidd. I think he was using his Pat Metheny model on that album.
When it comes to cleans, I can't really point anyone out. Most players use effects too much on their clean sound, probably to cover up the lack of organicness from their pickups (looking in your way, Petrucci). But good clean tone isn't hard. Put a les paul through a class A tube amp and you're there.
Pantera is sterile, scooped, and lifeless?? I'm sorry man, but I will have to disagree with you on that one. Metallica you can have and I will admit that despite being a Kerry King fan his tone is pretty run-of-the-mill metal. But what Dimebag Darrell did was so far from sterile and lifeless that I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. I mean, have you ever listened to Far Beyond Driven? Not to mention, he pulled off Vulgar Display of Power when most metal guitarists were still trapped in 80's mode. Sorry man, but I would hardly use those adjectives to describe his tone. His tone was metal but yet still so rock n' roll.
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Alrighty and so our opinions differ. Yes I have listened to those records and to me, Dime's sound was no better than a kid with an MT-2 but to each his own (and I guess that IS metal yet still so rock'n'roll :wink: ). I respect your opinion so please respect mine.
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I think Dream Evil's tone on Dragonslayer and Evilized was awesome :D And Pantera's tone on Vulgar Display of Power is sick too
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Metallica's - "The Thing That Should Not Be" Main riff tone.
But I realize that is about 3-5 different amps at once.
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Oh boy. I don't know much about "tone secrets" but I can mention a few factors I like in tone and some players who's tone I really like.
I can't stand when there's an earpiercing amount of "bite" (AC/DC) or when it's sterile, scooped and lifeless (Metallica/Pantera/Slayer) or when it comes from a strat or a tele (I'm dead serious here). I may come to buy a Trilogy Suite for the name alone at some point in the future, but as for now, I have no desire for single coil tones. I appreciate thickness and organicness at all times. Great harmonic responce is essential for soloing, IMO, but I wouldn't sacrifice tone for hotness.
Good metal tone to me is saturated but not fuzzy, tight but not sterile, and has a certain percussiveness without being brittle. Iced Earth's Framing Armageddon rythm tone is a prime example of this. I also really like Megadeth's tone on Countdown and Youth, aswell as John Sykes' famous 1987 tone.
Good lead sound comes more from the fingers than anything else. I can't pinpoint exactly what I like about Vai's tone, I just know I really like it. And I've heard lots of players with practically the same gear having a terribly sterile tone. Likewise, Shawn Lane always had incredible tone no matter what he played.
I've been a fan of Al Di Meola's tone since the first time I heard him play. Especially the "screaming Les Paul" type sound he had before going all buttery with the PRSes.
Paul Gilbert had awful tone back in the day, then gradually improved and if it wasnt for the fuzzy Marshall factor he seems to like nowadays, his tone would finally be on par with his playing. Tonewise, he really shines on the album he did with Jimi Kidd. I think he was using his Pat Metheny model on that album.
When it comes to cleans, I can't really point anyone out. Most players use effects too much on their clean sound, probably to cover up the lack of organicness from their pickups (looking in your way, Petrucci). But good clean tone isn't hard. Put a les paul through a class A tube amp and you're there.
Pantera is sterile, scooped, and lifeless?? I'm sorry man, but I will have to disagree with you on that one. Metallica you can have and I will admit that despite being a Kerry King fan his tone is pretty run-of-the-mill metal. But what Dimebag Darrell did was so far from sterile and lifeless that I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. I mean, have you ever listened to Far Beyond Driven? Not to mention, he pulled off Vulgar Display of Power when most metal guitarists were still trapped in 80's mode. Sorry man, but I would hardly use those adjectives to describe his tone. His tone was metal but yet still so rock n' roll.
Erm - Dimebag's tone is EXTREMELY Scooped, and SUPER Sterile - That's what gives it its characteristic sound. I wouldn't call it lifeless though - its super energetic tone.
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Alrighty and so our opinions differ. Yes I have listened to those records and to me, Dime's sound was no better than a kid with an MT-2 but to each his own (and I guess that IS metal yet still so rock'n'roll :wink: ). I respect your opinion so please respect mine.
I wasn't disrespecting your opinion, just disagreeing. Sorry if it came across otherwise. And if that is what Dimebag sounded like, than I am going out and buying an MT-2 today! :lol:
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Eric Johnson - Manhattan on the G3 Live CD
SYL - Detox
Carcass - Heartwork
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Nevermore - Dead Heart In A Dead World
Meshuggah - Obzen
SRV - Texas Flood
David Gilmour - Comfortably Numb
Joe Bonmassa - anything he plays live
Guthrie Govan - Erotic Cakes
Behemoth - Demigod
Joe Satriani - Crystal Planet
Iced Earth - Horror Show
Megadeth - Countdown To Extinction
Megadeth - Black Album
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Raised Fist - Message Beneath Contempt. Aside from being a superb song, the guitar tone on that is drizzle-worthy :)
Roo
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^ I'm not sure if the Black album is officially a Megadeth record? :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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^ I'm not sure if the Black album is officially a Megadeth record? :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
:lol: You know what I mean
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I'm sure Mustaine wish's it was.
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I dont know about the secrets of Slashes Appetite for Destruction tone, apparently its not his usual amp though.. I'd like to know the secret :P
Tom, if you do a search on the Seymour Duncan forum there was along post on the subject kind of a year ago. Supposedly he used a mythic modded Marshall rented from I can't remember which company. Guitarwise I think it was his Les Paul replica.
Don't know much about tone secret either (apart from the above), but I am just listening to Blue Finger from Black Francis (the come back) and the sound he got from is telecaster is just brilliant. I think I am going to spend the afternoon with my tele to replicate it. After all his album The Cult of Ray is the reason I wanted a tele so bad for some years.
Other favourite tones of mine are Billy Gibbons on their last album to date (heard they were preparing a new one for this year) and on Tres Hombres (go figure what it was amongst the pletor of gear he is using), and Slash on It's five o'clock somewhere, which IMO is the best rock record ever.
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This is obscure
Anyone heard the screaming Les Paul tone Nightranger's Jeff Watson put on the solo to 'Sing me away"
Very cheesy song but a killer tone none the less
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The Ultimate Sin album
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I don't know much about tone secrets, but some of my favorite tones are not really good tones so to speak, but tones that suit/set the atmosphere. For example Black Sabbath's Paranoid or Master Of Reality, so dark and dingy and it suits the music perfectly.
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I don't know much about tone secrets, but some of my favorite tones are not really good tones so to speak, but tones that suit/set the atmosphere. For example Black Sabbath's Paranoid or Master Of Reality, so dark and dingy and it suits the music perfectly.
Is Sweet Leaf on Master of Reality?
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Ya it is.
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I don't know much about tone secrets, but some of my favorite tones are not really good tones so to speak, but tones that suit/set the atmosphere. For example Black Sabbath's Paranoid or Master Of Reality, so dark and dingy and it suits the music perfectly.
Is Sweet Leaf on Master of Reality?
Best Sabbath album ever, I reckon.
Although I quite like Dehumanizer... Is that wrong?
Mark.
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Sweet Leaf is an immense tone
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Reverend Bizarre has epic metal tone, most of their albums are superbly produced.