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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: oceansandatlantic on August 21, 2015, 07:31:04 PM

Title: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: oceansandatlantic on August 21, 2015, 07:31:04 PM
hey im sorry for bothering you  guuys but i just wanted a quick recommendations
i recently just bought a jim root fender telecaster( mahogany body, ebony board 25.5" scale length bolt on neck)
it came with emgs in it but im not a super big fan of them and after playing bareknuckles nothing else will do.
i play rock. hardcore/post-hardcore/alternative/pop punk. i use alot of mid and high gain tones and even some cleans.
 im looking for a pickup that can kill lead tones and pull off amazing riff and chugs rhythms as well.
heres a few songs of music styles i enjoy and the tone im after

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkkwsvcLkjg      ( i want to be able to do chugs like this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExlaQBvEXOw      (this one is like the perfect example of the tone i want!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bupP3PDd_BU       (and still be able to play some leads like this)


one of my friends suggested the nailbomb but for some reason  i could never get into it from the demos ive heard ( but if that's what you guys would recommend i can just suck it up and order it because im going  off of youtube videos of it so)
 i was looking at the Juggernaut ive heard nothing but amazing things about that ...
i own  holydiver already.( i love it!)
i have a marshall jvm 205 and a orange jim root terror ( im not obsessed with jim root i just like his gear ) running into 2 orange 2x12

anyways guys help me decide!
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: CommonCourtesy on August 21, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
I'm an ADTR fan, and I've tried to get gear that matches closely to what they use, I'm too am not a big fan of EMG's that much.

I have a ceramic nailbomb in my main band guitar which is a Gibson LP studio, play in drop c. Had the aftermath in it before. I'm primarily the rhythm guy in the band so for what I want to do it works well. I use a 6505+ head and use EB Not Even Slinky 12-56 strings.

The Aftermath pickup I had before that was good, and definitely cut through a live mix and gave me more power but was too middy and more for "Djent-y" type tones. Once I switched that out for a Nailbomb the bottom end was back and so was the brightness of the top end sparkle. I've recently disconnected my tone knob too which I believe a Jim Root Tele hasn't got one either which affects the sound in a good way for me, makes the signal hotter and brighter.

I boost my lead channel sound on the 6505+ with an Ibanez Tubescreamer and I think its a sound I'm happy with for now. If I do "cleans" it'll be the rhythm channel with the crunch button pushed in to give it some breakup, its not too bad on the cleans, though I only upgraded the bridge pickup, the neck is still stock and isn't too bad in the middle position with both in use. But I don't spend too much time doing cleans.

I haven't tried any of the other humbuckers in the BKP range so I can't really comment on them, Juggernaut/Painkiller/Black Hawk might be some suggestions.
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: ericsabbath on August 21, 2015, 09:02:46 PM
I'd go with the alnico nailbomb, but the c-bomb or miracle man should work pretty well too

Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: oceansandatlantic on August 21, 2015, 09:04:34 PM
haha yea i actually went to school with the guys in adtr. nice name by the way common courtesy was a good cd!
haha just when i thought i had my mind made up you cgime in and completly re loop me. tim reccomended the jugg.
im not a huge fan of ceramic magnets so if i got the nall bomb it would proabably be alnico... but in most the videos i seen theres just something about it and i cant figure out what... but i dont like it
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: oceansandatlantic on August 21, 2015, 09:06:39 PM
 i know the juggs. gonna have alot of mids and bass. i like how its a hybrid ceramic and alnico. do you guys have any songs recorded or anything using the nailbombs? or juggs maybe?
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: CommonCourtesy on August 21, 2015, 09:20:41 PM
Damn, do you still keep in contact with them now? I would like them to hear about my band lol. CC is a great album, got a bit of everything on there from pop punk to screamo breakdowns, to acoustic ballads to ambient stuff. Great progression from the earlier stuff.

The other guitar I have the alnico one is usually in standard or drop d. It does act as a back up to my band guitar should anything go wrong during a gig. Its more fuller and aggressive sounding but I like it and it kinda suits the guitar. It gives me all sorts of sounds from full out metal to old school rock n roll if I back off the volume so I get alot of tones from it.

This was recorded using my main band guitar, the LP studio with a ceramic nailbomb in the bridge. Was actually going through a 5150 on the rhythm channel with a ts9 to boost, sounded clearer and fatter.

https://soundcloud.com/litlikevegas/like-like-vegas-bringing-it-1
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: oceansandatlantic on August 21, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
ahh okay! i actually like that though i think its going to be between the juggs and the cermaic bomb.

haha nah man i havent seen them since i moved my 9th grade year, wasnt really good friends with any of them they were all older than me other than alex shellnut(drummer/golden eagle)
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: CommonCourtesy on August 21, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
I usually use a 6505+ but in the studio the 5150 kinda sounded fatter through an Orange 4 x 12. There was also a Marshall JCM800 in there that was close to the sound I wanted.

Unfortunately I don't have any recordings with the alnico Nailbomb but I hope the recording with the ceramic helped!

Other things like string gauge and stuff make a difference too, I've been considering going to 13-62 gauge!

Ah shame, doesn't help I never catch them when they're in the UK, they always seem to play and I can't make it!
Title: Re: Underoath tones & your brilliant minds
Post by: Dave Sloven on August 22, 2015, 04:54:44 AM
For that kind of sound you should keep the alnico version of the Black Hawk in mind.

Not sure how it fits with the acoustic qualities of your guitar though