Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Serratus on November 29, 2015, 03:39:07 PM
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Recorded a bridge pickup comparison video :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecekLV4yps
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That was cool thanks.
Its interesting that i found them kinda similar aside from all the differences.
Maybe the player the eq or the track.
I like it a lot!
Reminds of how cool the Ry is
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The most distinctive one was the Ibanez pickup. Smoother, very compressed, lacks character.
I think I liked the Emerald the best. I was also pleasantly surprised by the Painkiller.
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Holy Stockholm!!
I've played a guitar equipped with a Painkiller. It was awesome!
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Cool vid, thx!
It shows very nice the difference between related pickups like the Diver and the Rebel Yell.
I was pleasantly surprised by the Emerald.
The Stockholm sounds amazing, but I do like P90's anyway.
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Its interesting that i found them kinda similar aside from all the differences.
Hehehehe, I love this sentence!!! :tongue: But I know exactly what you mean!!
Thanks guys, I am happy with this vid, and I plan to do revised versions with some other pickups as I get them :evil:
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You can hear the different voicings in the vid, but I with (a lot of) gain some BKP's sound close.
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You can hear the different voicings in the vid, but I with (a lot of) gain some BKP's sound close.
Generally, the more saturated a tone gets, the more the voice of the amplifier starts to predominate. I've often found very high gain demos frustrating for this reason.
But, I also find that recordings are far more 2 dimensional than hearing something live. Being in front of an amp and actually playing through different pickups gives a far more noticeable impression.
I found it very interesting how much low end the Rebel Yell had in the demo. In my experience, that pickup really lacks bottom even compared to an A-Bomb.
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You can hear the different voicings in the vid, but I with (a lot of) gain some BKP's sound close.
Generally, the more saturated a tone gets, the more the voice of the amplifier starts to predominate. I've often found very high gain demos frustrating for this reason.
But, I also find that recordings are far more 2 dimensional than hearing something live. Being in front of an amp and actually playing through different pickups gives a far more noticeable impression.
I found it very interesting how much low end the Rebel Yell had in the demo. In my experience, that pickup really lacks bottom even compared to an A-Bomb.
A-Bomb has quite some bass.
But you're right, it's hard to judge any pickup in online-demo's.
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that video reminds me of what I love about the holy diver
the others sounded great too, except for the stock ibanez pup (as expected)
loving the stockholm
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But you're right, it's hard to judge any pickup in online-demo's.
I agree. With online demos the amp tone goes into a mic, compressor, DAW where it is mixed and combined with other instruments. Then the the mix is compressed, and uploaded. When people play it, it goes through their soundcard or sound device through a preamp and an amplifier, and through speakers. So we're hearing so many tones layered on top of the source tone.
that video reminds me of what I love about the holy diver
the others sounded great too, except for the stock ibanez pup (as expected)
loving the stockholm
Stockholm sounds amazing in that demo.
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You can hear the different voicings in the vid, but I with (a lot of) gain some BKP's sound close.
Generally, the more saturated a tone gets, the more the voice of the amplifier starts to predominate. I've often found very high gain demos frustrating for this reason.
But, I also find that recordings are far more 2 dimensional than hearing something live. Being in front of an amp and actually playing through different pickups gives a far more noticeable impression.
I found it very interesting how much low end the Rebel Yell had in the demo. In my experience, that pickup really lacks bottom even compared to an A-Bomb.
I also found that when I was recording them they 'felt' more different to each other than they sounded when I listened to them back. So although they still have their own character in the recordings, the character meant more to me when I was playing. Shows that as a player you notice more differences in tone and feel than an audience would ever hear!! :wink:
I'm also planning to do another demo video with more of a mid-gain (AC/DCish maybe) tone which will be interesting :grin:
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Yeah man. Theres no better than in the flesh testing.
So much is lost. I took me a year to learn to hear the subtitles in vid/demo
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Anyone got any recommendations of which BKP's would be good to add to the test?
I have a cobra-equipped guitar which will be finished soon, and I have a Jugg, Abraxas, and Black dog ready to put into guitars next. Any preference?
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Mule, Black Dog, Abraxas, Crawler would be a nice quartet to compare.
I think a lot of forummembers like to hear also the Cobra next to the Jugg and the Blackhawk.
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Hmmm, I have Cobra's and a Jugg already, so maybe I'll get a Blackhawk next - always wanted to try the BH, never got round to it!
I really want a cream mule set for a Les Paul type that I built a few years ago, too, so that'd be a good test, particularly alongside the BD and Abraxas I already have :)
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Hmmm, I have Cobra's and a Jugg already, so maybe I'll get a Blackhawk next - always wanted to try the BH, never got round to it!
I really want a cream mule set for a Les Paul type that I built a few years ago, too, so that'd be a good test, particularly alongside the BD and Abraxas I already have :)
Yeah mate, you've got to collect them all now :grin:
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Hmmm, I have Cobra's and a Jugg already, so maybe I'll get a Blackhawk next - always wanted to try the BH, never got round to it!
I really want a cream mule set for a Les Paul type that I built a few years ago, too, so that'd be a good test, particularly alongside the BD and Abraxas I already have :)
Yeah mate, you've got to collect them all now :grin:
I can definitely see my wife agreeing with that!! :grin:
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Hmmm, I have Cobra's and a Jugg already, so maybe I'll get a Blackhawk next - always wanted to try the BH, never got round to it!
I really want a cream mule set for a Les Paul type that I built a few years ago, too, so that'd be a good test, particularly alongside the BD and Abraxas I already have :)
Yeah mate, you've got to collect them all now :grin:
I can definitely see my wife agreeing with that!! :grin:
Well, if she does, you've got a woman in a million... :smiley:
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Hahaha, she does very well to put up with my guitar building addiction but I think saying that I have to try them all might be a step too far.......
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I wqs going to change the pickups in my Les Paul this Christmas but decided to change effects instead, partly because I couldn't decide what to get. Now I've pulled the trigger on the effects ironically I'm now that bit closer to deciding on pickups. Still unsure what to replace the 498T with as I really like that pickup but I'm pretty sure the 490R will be replaced by a P90 instead of another humbucker. I've never had one before but I keep getting impressed by them so I might as well take the plunge. Unfortunately there are very few reviews of P90 pickups on this site so if anyone has some, could you please get writing :grin:
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I wqs going to change the pickups in my Les Paul this Christmas but decided to change effects instead, partly because I couldn't decide what to get. Now I've pulled the trigger on the effects ironically I'm now that bit closer to deciding on pickups. Still unsure what to replace the 498T with as I really like that pickup but I'm pretty sure the 490R will be replaced by a P90 instead of another humbucker. I've never had one before but I keep getting impressed by them so I might as well take the plunge. Unfortunately there are very few reviews of P90 pickups on this site so if anyone has some, could you please get writing :grin:
I think for your style the MQ would be the savest bet since the SM already has modern DNA in there. However, if one of the more modern ones the SM would be the ticket I recon.
Perhaps BN neck, but the MQ would be great in the neck too. I have my MQ neck paired with my Crawler right now and they go together very well. Great combo. Just need to fix the wiring on the Slowhand middle, but never get around to it.
I mean BKP does have a great return policy after all.
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I wqs going to change the pickups in my Les Paul this Christmas but decided to change effects instead, partly because I couldn't decide what to get. Now I've pulled the trigger on the effects ironically I'm now that bit closer to deciding on pickups. Still unsure what to replace the 498T with as I really like that pickup but I'm pretty sure the 490R will be replaced by a P90 instead of another humbucker. I've never had one before but I keep getting impressed by them so I might as well take the plunge. Unfortunately there are very few reviews of P90 pickups on this site so if anyone has some, could you please get writing :grin:
Did you see this other video I made (link below)? All the rhythm and a lot of the lead was recorded using a Stockholm. I know that's probably way hotter than the P90's you're thinking about but it does show some of the versatility of BKP's P90's. With a lot of gain it sounds huge and fat, probably the most alive and pissed off bridge pickup I've got, but with less gain it's really versatile, does some lovely mid-gain sounds. I reckon for those tones the lower powered P90's are probably even nicer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxbthSL1Q7Q
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I think for your style the MQ would be the savest bet since the SM already has modern DNA in there. However, if one of the more modern ones the SM would be the ticket I recon.
Perhaps BN neck, but the MQ would be great in the neck too. I have my MQ neck paired with my Crawler right now and they go together very well. Great combo. Just need to fix the wiring on the Slowhand middle, but never get around to it.
I mean BKP does have a great return policy after all.
I knew when I mentioned a P90 you'd comment :grin:
I'm open minded about which P90 I use to be honest. Having never owned one before I have no particular preconceptions so it may well be a decision that's driven by what matches my choice of bridge humbucker best. The 498T is the only stock pickup I've ever owned that I'm really wary of changing so whatever it is, I'm guessing it will have similarities to the 498T in terms of a certain hairiness and aggression in the upper mids. I get the impression it sits somewhere between the A-Bomb (which I find VERY hairy and aggressive) and the Rebel Yell (which never sounds quite as hairy or aggressive as the 498T on the clips I've heard). I know I don't want a massively modern tone as I have that covered with my PRS.
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Interesting would be to know the difference between the MQ-neck (AIV) and the Nantucket-neck (AV). Gosh, need another guitar to plant some P90's in.
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A friend of mine uses a MQ bridge model in the neck and it sounds fantastic. I'd guess it wouldn't be a million miles from a Nantucket neck model.
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One of my plans for a future build is a Les Paul style singlecut with a Supermassive bridge / Nantucket middle / Blue note neck - I reckon that would have so much lovely tone!
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I know I have gotten predictable a long time ago Slarti. =) I just believe youŽd have a lot of fun with P90s. Should be right up your alley.
And Serratus: That sounds like quite a fun combo, I must say. Especially super versatile if you add series / parallel switch for the combined positions.
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I know I have gotten predictable a long time ago Slarti. =) I just believe youŽd have a lot of fun with P90s. Should be right up your alley.
And Serratus: That sounds like quite a fun combo, I must say. Especially super versatile if you add series / parallel switch for the combined positions.
Wow, yeah Supermassive with another P90 in series would sound huge!!!
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I enjoyed that- I don't have any BKP humbuckers but it was interesting to hear. I must admit that it was not easy to hear the subtle differences very well but I don't have particularly good headphones. Very well made video-thanks
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Had a chance this weekend to listen to the comparison on better speakers. What I noticed was that the differences were most pronounced in the initial clips whereas I could not hear any differences in the lead tracks. Of those of interest to me, the Holydiver to me had the smoothest attack. The Rebel Yell had a much more pronounced attack. The Emerald surprisingly seems to sit inbetween those two which was not was I expected. I expected it to be brighter.
Cheers Stephan
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Yeah I would agree with that - the RY is definitely more brash than the HD (which is warmer) with more pronounced attack (due to that). The Emerald's overall tone probably is in between those two, but it does also feel lower in output compared to them. So whereas the RY and HD feel similar to play (with differences in tone), the EM has quite a bit less saturation.
I was surprised by the EM when I first got it. I normally go for BKP's with more low frequencies on their tone chart but I fancied going for something different. The EM does have quiet a lot of highs but they're really really smooth - none of those harsh highs that you get from some bright pickups. And there's still plenty of warmth and lower frequencies there too. I really like it :)
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what I really like about the emerald in the video is that despite of it sounding a little brighter in the top end, it has the most balanced overall sound, with just the right amount of mids
reminds me of the PRS Dragon II that comes stock in the PRS Custom 22 and CE-22, but without the annoying spikey top and harsh mids
that should sound absolutely amazing in late 70's maple neck les pauls
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what I really like about the emerald in the video is that despite of it sounding a little brighter in the top end, it has the most balanced overall sound, with just the right amount of mids
reminds me of the PRS Dragon II that comes stock in the PRS Custom 22 and CE-22, but without the annoying spikey top and harsh mids
that should sound absolutely amazing in late 70's maple neck les pauls
Well if it sounds anything remotely like a Dragon II it's not a pickup I want. I found the Dragon II thin, shrill and muddy at the same time, and I tested them in three different guitars. Yet I played PRS guitars that had them stock which sounded absolutely great.
Cheers Stephan
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Man, that Emerald might make my Abraxas nervous..thanks for taking the time to put this together.
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I did this video a few weeks ago - might be of interest because all the rhythm is done with an Emerald. It was my first time recording with my Kemper and I only took a couple of hours on it so I'm sure I could've got it sounding better, but it's not bad imho. Emerald sounds pretty fat, I think :smiley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbojhmBgy5w