Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: sambo on March 30, 2006, 10:43:00 PM
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just wondering, does anyone on here know what gear (particularly amps) soilwork use? hsa anyone even heard of soilwork? :lol:
im in love with their tone at the moment.... so bassy but still really tight and crunchy... simply gorgeous......... i like it more than a lot of other metal tones ive heard... its on a par with panteras tone but its a completely different sound (to my ears anyway)... for any metal heads, if you havent heard of them their a great band.... and i really wanna know what kind of ball-park their equipment is in.
any info much appreciated.
thanks.
sam.
P.S- especially the track 'sadistic lullabye' GREAT song and GREAT tone.... mmmmmmmmm its soooooooo good listening to it right now... headbanging YEAHHHEHRR!!!!! :twisted:
OH and 'the mindmaker' as well.... yer... and follow the hollow, and... AND EVERYTHING... !!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: !!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :twisted:
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Machine Gun Majesty is the best song I've heard from them. The solos are pretty good and riffs are great.
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I have no idea about soilwork, but i think you should just get an engl, lol- preferably powerball.
Or that new invader looks incredibly sweet (blue lights inside the head and a blue power button!)
:twisted:
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lol why do you say that davey boy?
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I know they use Caparison guitars. Don't know about the rest of the gear.
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Their website has this info.... I guess one of their guitarist left?? I love predator's portrait
Ola Frenning:
Krank Amps and Cabinets
Kiyairi Accoustic Guitars
Caparison Guitars
Dean Markley Strings
EMG-pick-ups
Signature pics
Sean
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kool! thanks guys ^
had no idea they used krank....
krank is gonna have to be my kind of dream amp now....
damn i want one
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Are you on time with the forum's time? Are you posting at 5:30am? :)
Old Soilwork sounds a lot like At the Gates, do you like them? The lastest cd I own is natural born chaos. I really like the keyboards too..
Sean
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noooooo definately NOT posting at 5:30 am.....
never heard of At The Gates.... gonna have to check them out now...
any particular tracks you recommend?
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Hey Sam,
I've the good fortune to work at Sounds Great, and we bring Krank into the UK, so if you want some prices give us a ring on 0161 436 4799 and we'll run you through the range. Gotta say it's awesome! :twisted:
They are also doing a distortion pedal now, so might be worth having a look if you can't afford a new head and cab.
Steve
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OHHHHH! DISTORTINO PEDAL OH OH OH OH OH O HOH O HO HOH!!!!
its mine... how much is it? oh i have to ring? oh poo ok ill ring...
whats your opening hours?
damn i need one
wait wait sloowww down- is the pedal actually any good?
yer i cant afford a head/cab - hence the phrase 'dream' amp :lol:
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Caprison guitars?
Gives me an idea for a photoshop. 8)
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Caprice giving birth?
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or the small, foil-structured drink?
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(http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3448/soilwork0xg.png)
:lol:
Capricaster, a true definition of sweet and tangy tone.
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I've heard a lot of bad things about kranks sambo, although I haven't tried them (i'm staying neutral, just giving a heads-up).
So you want to try one before buying it, lol- and try it head to head with other quality high-gain amps as well- mesa, engl, diezel, etc.
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^ ok cheers dave
lol alex... hahahaah awesomee!!!
now try my other suggestion- caprice....
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They can't have been using kranks for very long because they just haven't been around for long, so if the song you're talking about it on anything but their most recent album, it won't be krank tone. I don't think they used kranks on their latest album either, they probably got endorsed after. I think they used to use 5150's.
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ooooooh!!! cheers dude...
5150's... thats really REALLY interesting as i was considering one of them.... AND their kinda within my price range....
if thats true (that they used 5150's) then i simply have to get one....
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I see the 5150 a lot in this genre of metal. I want to try one....
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yer ive seen a few metal bands on kerrang/skuzz using the 5150's.....
dont think theres anywhere near me that sells em tho....
ive heard a lotta people say they dont like em...
but then someone on here (cant remember who it was) said that amps have to be seen in context (might of been HTH actually?).... they said that an amp could sound great on its own and then shite in a band or the other way round- shite by itself great in a band....
maybe thats the case for the 5150.... i dunno
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I think a 5150 would have to used... So you could luck out and get to try one. The biggest complaint I hear/read is there is not a clean channel.
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yer would have to be second hand
yer i heard the same issues with the channels... but WFD (a guy on here) said that the 5150 II has an extra channel that solved that i think
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I'm not sure if the II has another or not, but who needs cleans? What have they ever done for anyone? :lol: :P :roll:
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I know this band, but their only NON faggot album that really worth a listen is the CHAINHREAT MACHINE
ripping leads
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lol kool WFD will check that out...
whats your in-depth opinion on the 5150? combo in particular if youve had any experience with it?
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Would be careful with the 5150 combo, not heard good things, besides these amps alway's sound better thru a cab, better push for the bottom end, and that's what a 5150 has shiteeloads of!
Hehe, heard posts on sites like this complaining about the Krank stuff, and honestly we have had a couple of amps that have proved a bit of a mystery, but all in all it's been a very good response, God Forbid have just had 2 for an entire UK tour and they only sang their praises! And they spilt beer all over em! You only hear the negatives, but is well worth trying out!
The Krank distortion is V cool, well worth trying, think it's in this months total guitar/guitar buyer so check out the review!
Check our website for more
Steve
www.soundsgreatmusic.com
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yer would have to be second hand
yer i heard the same issues with the channels... but WFD (a guy on here) said that the 5150 II has an extra channel that solved that i think
I wouldn't say it solved it. I tried a 6505+ (the new name for the 5150 MkII) and I thought the cleans on it sucked. As a matter of fact, I haven't even tried the 5150 or 6505, I can only imagine how badly the cleans suck on it if the 6505+ has "improved" cleans. :twisted:
Has your budget changed at all? what kind of exact tones are you after, and how big a range of tones?
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wELL, believe it or not, i didn´t play with my amp ENOUGH at all yet
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
I still need a place and time to play it, gonna post my reviews as soon as this happens
Q:)
Sorry
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ok cheers WFD...
kool steve ill check them out, wheres sounds great based?
and dave, oh yeah lol i guess solved wasnt the right word haha.
well budget hasnt really changed at all except that i may be willing to save up for longer and therefor get more cash.
also, im having second thoughts about buying this boost pedal off willo now.... shite sorry ian mate :oops: :cry: :oops:
if im gonna be getting a new amp (which WILL happen in the near future).... then i may not need a boost pedal.... PLUS, i may need a hotplate before a pedal....
and if its an engl i buy i may not even need a boost pedal at all....
damn....
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^yeah.
If I were you I'd hold off on the pedal till you get the amp. You may not need one, or you may need a differently voiced one, etc.
I have no idea, lol.
That being said, a boost pedal won't hurt an engl, lol. And if you go for the thunder, you might need one (no idea, I haven't tried it). And it wouldn't hurt for the screamer either- the high gain channel sounds kind of metal, you'd get, I'd have thought, a better lead tone by boosting one of the lower gain channels (crunch for example), since it's much more middy and less trebly.
That's what I love about my savage se- with the rough button engaged, it's metal, and then when i switch it to smooth, it's high gain, but for solos.
Unfortunately, the savage and savage se is the only engl with this feature- although the se will do the savage/savage se tones too, since it's uber-versatile.
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Hey Sam, I have a Trace Elliot Speed Twin that I bought really recently. The cool thing is that it can accept a fair variety of tubes with a minimum of fuss, so you can change the sounds slightly that way. Yesterday I put 6L6 tubes in it, played a couple of Hendrix riffs and then swapped the tubes out for EL34s and played the same riffs. There was a bit of difference even with the amp settings all the same.
It has two channels, a boost switch, plus two master volumes, so you can change your volume at any time with the footswitch without changing the sound. The tone is something like a Marshall, but with more versatility.
Now if only I could get Vox cleans, Marshall overdrive, and Mesa high gain all in the one amp, I'd be happy.
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Now if only I could get Vox cleans, Marshall overdrive, and Mesa high gain all in the one amp, I'd be happy.
Engl savage se.
Near enough anyway.
;)
EDIT: oh, and add in fender cleans, hot-rodded marshall 80's metal tones, and modern killswitch engage-type metalcore distortion.
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lol.
so how much was your trace searcher it sounds good...
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^yeah, that trace actually sounds pretty decent going by the specs, but i've never tried any, so I have no idea, lol.
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I just spent the whole afternoon and beginning of the night with the 5150 in my room
playing
after 30 minutes of tube warm up
i played it in 3 different tunes
C, D, E!
with my 3 guitarras(soon to be 4)
and, its pretty $%&#ign tight, EXCELLENT for thrash Metal and palm mutted/non palm mutted Power chords... and riffs like SLAYER´S - SPIRIT IN BLACK Opening riff..
But, i found out that for leads and Single note runs, it lacks sustain, i mean, it lacks GAIN..
how can i solve that problem!?
Hails
J.P
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Ah, i forgot to say, i recorded a cr@ppy video... of me playing some cr@ppy riffs...
with teh 5150 in my storm $%&#ed Bedroom. ahahahaah
120 megas, if anyone want it.
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^ ME! IWANT IT!
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How can i send it to yah!?
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ermmmm crumbs.....
dunno.... have NO idea with a file that big
anyone any ideas?
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you might want an OD pedal, WFD.
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yer thts a good idea dave... or a clean boost maaybe...
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^yeah, one or the other- i just tend to put both under the umbrella of "OD". :D
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lol yer i spose they are one and the same thing in a way....
whats the official differences between an OD and clean boost
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Then, a ibanez ts808 copy
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lol yer i spose they are one and the same thing in a way....
whats the official differences between an OD and clean boost
I assume an od can get some dirt of its own, so could be used with an SS amp too (or to really boost the OD of a tube amp, lol), whereas a clean boost will only boost the preamp tubes on a tube amp, and will do next to nothing on an SS amp, bar a volume increase.
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oh yer that would make sense
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lol yer i spose they are one and the same thing in a way....
whats the official differences between an OD and clean boost
I assume an od can get some dirt of its own, so could be used with an SS amp too (or to really boost the OD of a tube amp, lol), whereas a clean boost will only boost the preamp tubes on a tube amp, and will do next to nothing on an SS amp, bar a volume increase.
an overdrive pedal basically will change your tone in some way, tubescreamers are notorious for altering the mid-range, for instance. A clean boost is 'clean' because it doesn't change the frequency of your guitar tone, as I think I mentioned earlier on. Both will give you extra volume and gain too - whether solid state or valve.
I don't know why it works with a solid state, but having tried it, it does. I got more gain, heaps more gain. I assume that this works along the same kind of principle that means that a hotter pickup will give you more gain, regardless of whether the amp is solid state or valve.
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^ahhh cool...
nice explanation
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an overdrive pedal basically will change your tone in some way, tubescreamers are notorious for altering the mid-range, for instance. A clean boost is 'clean' because it doesn't change the frequency of your guitar tone, as I think I mentioned earlier on. Both will give you extra volume and gain too - whether solid state or valve.
I don't know why it works with a solid state, but having tried it, it does. I got more gain, heaps more gain. I assume that this works along the same kind of principle that means that a hotter pickup will give you more gain, regardless of whether the amp is solid state or valve.
ah, ok, fair enough. Point ceded, lol.
I actually meant to put in about the tone changing with an OD, but i forgot, lol.
Also, what i meant about the OD getting its own gain was that the overdrive was actually coming from the pedal (EDIT: although with the gain/drive control on the pedal at minimum, and the volume/level up full, the OD will mostly be inducing overdrive from the amp too), whereas the clean boost was inducing overdrive from the amp (i'm confused now, lol).
Lol- sambo, they're kind of similar, but different, lol.
I was wrong about the SS amps, though.
Cheers,
:D