Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: O731 on July 07, 2017, 03:55:27 AM
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I'm looking to get some BKP pickups for my new ibanez prestige i'm going to be getting soon. I have ceramic nailbombs in my SG and love it, but my SG isn't really my tech death metal guitar. I love the tone it has for rhythm but I need something for my ibanez (my tech death guitar )
I have another Ibanez where i'm rocking a dimarzio X2n in the bridge and tone zone at the neck, and I absolutely love the combo. For my new prestige, I want to get use BKP pickups but get a similar tone as my current ibanez prestige (X2n and tonezone)
From what i've searched around here the ceramic warpig or nailbomb would be the best bet, but I want to ask before I dish the money on these bad boys. I play a step down btw.
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Forget about the Nailbomb for tech death.
The best one for that is Painkiller no doubt seconded by Cpig. I think Suizmec used the PK in Necrophagist f.e.
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Yeah I would go for the Painkiller or Ceramic Warpig, depending on your guitar type. Brighter guitar go for the C-Pig.
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Another vote here for the Ceramic Warpig (Cpig)
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If I was to get an ash body guitar, would the C-pig be a bit too ice-picky?
Can anyone vouch for a PK in the bridge and a Warpig (Alcino maybe) at the neck?
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C-pig is still pretty smooth on the high end, so I don't think it will get ice picky. Aftermath is quite a popular neck choice to go with warpig.
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C-pig ice-picky? maybe if you put it into a broomstick but not in a guitar :)
Swamp ash for death metal = Cpig
Mahogany for TECH death metal = Painkiller
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I'd personally go for painkiller instead of warpig for tech death metal. I find warpig just a bit "too big" sounding. But again, painkiller could be too harsh.
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C-pig ice-picky? maybe if you put it into a broomstick but not in a guitar :)
Swamp ash for death metal = Cpig
Mahogany for TECH death metal = Painkiller
My guitar is listed as "ash" so i'm not sure if its swamp ash. I'm putting it into an Ibanez RGR652AHB once it's released.
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C-pig ice-picky? maybe if you put it into a broomstick but not in a guitar :)
Swamp ash for death metal = Cpig
Mahogany for TECH death metal = Painkiller
My guitar is listed as "ash" so i'm not sure if its swamp ash. I'm putting it into an Ibanez RGR652AHB once it's released.
Nice guitar that one, but afaik ash is not as trebblish as swamp one, so the Cpig might be too deep in the bass for tech death. Plus, I'm talking about the 7 string versions all the time, bear that in mind. My opinion is also biased I guess since I use 27' scale guitars with ss frets so even the Cpig isn't bassy at all. In your shoes, I'd go for the Painkiller though that beast should be tamed properly, but anyway, I'd ask Tim or whoever at bareknuckle before making the wrong decision. In case of doubt, I'd go for the Black Winters, those never disappoint for extreme styles.
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Forget about the Nailbomb for tech death.
totally agree with that
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What about the Aftermath? Wasn't it originally designed with tech death in mind?
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What about the Aftermath? Wasn't it originally designed with tech death in mind?
I know they're not strictly tech death but Paradise Lost (tech doom?) Use Aftermaths.
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What about the Aftermath? Wasn't it originally designed with tech death in mind?
No, it was more on the djent side, I think
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I know they're not strictly tech death but Paradise Lost (tech doom?) Use Aftermaths.
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Tech doom? :rolleyes:
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To add some comments in agreement of whats been said:
The Painkiller has alot of pick attack, probably the most in the BKP range. To be honest, I find it a bit too much.
The Aftermath doesn't have as pronounced an attack. The tone of the aftermath is very dry, with a full modern sounding mid range. I also believe it was designed with djent in mind, but I personally use it for a modern take on 80s metal. I don't think it would be a bad choice for technical death metal.
All versions of the warpig have smooth highs and big low end. The ceramic version makes the low end tight and adds some sizzle to the top end, but the pay off is lack of versatility. The original alnico version of the warpig sounds very nice clean and is usable for a variety of styles. I think if you're a tech death kind of guy, you wouldn't really care about cleans though.
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Aftermath is ideal for that aplication IMO. It's a bit more balanced than PK maybe, and is tight af and doesn't sound tiny. It has a lot of attack too.
Whats about that tech doom :tongue:?
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I'm going for mainly lead playing for my setup here, and my guitar has an ash body. I'm still torn between the ceramic warpig or the painkiller. I'm talking sweeps and tight scale runs, and also tight rhythms.
My guitar won't release until October anyway, so I have time to research :)
I currently have a dimarzio X2n bridge: tonezone neck setup (the whole Michael Romeo thing) in my basswood prestige, but i'm also heavily considering just getting some BKP for it too.
I got ceramic nailbombs in my gibson SG and the thing is a BEAST, works very good for rhythm type styles like goth metal and doom. I'm looking for more of a lead setup now for my Ibanez (both my current basswood prestige and my new ash one)
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Aftermath is avtually really good for leads IMO. It has a lot of low mids that help with it.
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I'm going for mainly lead playing for my setup here, and my guitar has an ash body. I'm still torn between the ceramic warpig or the painkiller. I'm talking sweeps and tight scale runs, and also tight rhythms.
My guitar won't release until October anyway, so I have time to research :)
I currently have a dimarzio X2n bridge: tonezone neck setup (the whole Michael Romeo thing) in my basswood prestige, but i'm also heavily considering just getting some BKP for it too.
I got ceramic nailbombs in my gibson SG and the thing is a BEAST, works very good for rhythm type styles like goth metal and doom. I'm looking for more of a lead setup now for my Ibanez (both my current basswood prestige and my new ash one)
An even more important thing than the guitar in my opinion is the setup. What amp are you using? If you have something like a 5153 I'd go for the Cpig (my case), if your amp is darker, the Painkiller would be my final decision. Finally, if I wasn't sure, as I told you before, I'd get the blackwinter which I love in every guitar and never disappoints.
Whatever you choose, make sure you come back and make us know what you went for and how do you like it ;)
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I'd go for aftermath. PK just seems too ice picky to me.
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I'm going for mainly lead playing for my setup here, and my guitar has an ash body. I'm still torn between the ceramic warpig or the painkiller. I'm talking sweeps and tight scale runs, and also tight rhythms.
My guitar won't release until October anyway, so I have time to research :)
I currently have a dimarzio X2n bridge: tonezone neck setup (the whole Michael Romeo thing) in my basswood prestige, but i'm also heavily considering just getting some BKP for it too.
I got ceramic nailbombs in my gibson SG and the thing is a BEAST, works very good for rhythm type styles like goth metal and doom. I'm looking for more of a lead setup now for my Ibanez (both my current basswood prestige and my new ash one)
An even more important thing than the guitar in my opinion is the setup. What amp are you using? If you have something like a 5153 I'd go for the Cpig (my case), if your amp is darker, the Painkiller would be my final decision. Finally, if I wasn't sure, as I told you before, I'd get the blackwinter which I love in every guitar and never disappoints.
Whatever you choose, make sure you come back and make us know what you went for and how do you like it ;)
I'm just using an axe fx 2...I might get a nice tube amp down the line but not sure
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I'd just stick to axe fx if you just happen to have it ;).
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Hmmm...I'm leaning towards a painkiller on my bridge and maybe a C-pig or even A-pig at my bridge. This would be like my current X2n Bridge tone zone neck setup, but with BKP pickups. Would this be a good combo on an ash guitar or is this rather outlandish?
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I'd still pick the c-pig
wouldn't rule out the miracle man, though, specially for lower tunings
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Black hawk? :wink:
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Thank you for the input so far. Keep in mind this is for an Ash Ibanez prestige (Ibanez RGR652AHB new model coming soon)
The C-pig seems awesome but I hear ash already has a pronounced low end, is this true?
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I think C pig will work just fine in ash ;).
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Forget about the Nailbomb for tech death.
totally agree with that
Can you explain why the Nailbomb would be "that bad" ?
thanks..
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Forget about the Nailbomb for tech death.
totally agree with that
Can you explain why the Nailbomb would be "that bad" ?
thanks..
I would not call my Ceramic Nailbomb a typical metal pickup, it`s in my opinion definitely more hard rock pickup with added aggression and modern twist, but still not clear and precise enough for tech metal. Its really 'hairy' and cannot keep up with complex precise rhythm playing like other pickups (in my case Miracle Man for comparison). It can also become a bit 'blurry' with complex riffing involving technical metal playing.
Dont get me wrong its amazing rhythm pickup but with some limitation and definitely tailored more towards hard rock direction. That`s my opinion based on experience with CBomb