Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: orest009 on October 05, 2017, 10:01:06 AM
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Hi guys, that's my first post here so i would like your wisdom on those great BK!!
I'm playing modern metal tuned to C#
Guitar is Gibson LP '08 (on the Mid to Bright side)
Pickups are bridge Suhr Aldrich & neck the gibson's stock
Amps are Diezel vh4 & Diezel Herbert profiles through Kemper.
Mid gain 6/10 with a pure booster in front.
Although i kind like the way aldrich works on pulm mutes i hate the whole bright sound it produces paired with my LP.
It sounds kind too compressed and shrill too!
I would like a Bridge pickup with tight bottom end, open sound in the mids just enough to cut in the mix and some resonable roll off in the highs to tame the bright LP.
Sound guide: Tool, Alice in Chains, Alter Bridge, Gojira, Mastodon, Killswitch Engage
I liked in that order: Black Dog, A-bomb, Painkiller
Tim suggested: Black Dog or Emerald!
There you go guys!! :smiley:
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Obvious holy diver.
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My suggestion would be Miracle Man, but it depends how aggressive you want to go
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Most of the bands you mentioned play(ed) JB style pickups... Bill from mastodon even used HD on the previous record I think. Jerry Cantrell played JBs for a long time (he switched to MC afwayu a couple years ago). A lot of people say Adam Jones also uses JBs, but I don't really believe that. Pretty sure Joe from gojira was using JB at some point...
I think HD is what you want... It should sound sweeter than your suhr pickup.
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Obvious holy diver.
I though that too cause it seems that BD was just 9.4 kΩ!!
Will HD be the most modern sound of all our choises from BK?
Do you think that a Juggernaut could get along with a Bright LP?
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My suggestion would be Miracle Man, but it depends how aggressive you want to go
Hey Lucas, being reading some of your posts those days in forum!
Well, what would be perfect is to have the most modern BK without loosing clarity closer to a high roll of character.
(My LP is on the Mid to Bright side)
MM seems to complete the puzzle due to my LP's characteristics,
but isn't it too compressed than the HD?
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I'm not sure juggernaut is quite what you want. It super low mid heavy and has this disctinct voicing.
Black dog is cool (not much heat though, but maybe you don't want more heat?).
HD should be similar to DA in your LP, but a little fatter and more rounded in high end.
Tim knows the most about his pickups, so I'd definetely consider his suggestions.
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I'm not sure juggernaut is quite what you want. It super low mid heavy and has this disctinct voicing.
Black dog is cool (not much heat though, but maybe you don't want more heat?).
HD should be similar to DA in your LP, but a little fatter and more rounded in high end.
Tim knows the most about his pickups, so I'd definetely consider his suggestions.
Tim's suggestion was Black Dog, i'm closer to HD and i'm also thinking about Warpig or Painkiller just to make this LP a modern metal monster!!
What's your opinion about Warpig and Painkiller?
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With lower tuning I would go with ceramic pickup eg Miracle Man. Don`t get me wrong, MM is not super modern flame throwing ultra metal pickup. Yes, it`s metal pickup but with little classic vibe as well.
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holy diver should work perfectly
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Only thing is that Holydiver is not really aggressive to my ears it lacks that grit. It does have beautiful lead tone but rhythm wise its quite mellow I suppose
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Go for the recommended Black Dog, it's like a lower gain Holydiver but more open and grindy. Will work better for the Les Paul and low tuning. Holydivers are better in super strats.
The lower output will work, listen to the black dog modern metal clip, its the best one.
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Go for the recommended Black Dog, it's like a lower gain Holydiver but more open and grindy. Will work better for the Les Paul and low tuning. Holydivers are better in super strats.
The lower output will work, listen to the black dog modern metal clip, its the best one.
I totally agree with you, BD modern metal clip is the best one..
I wish it was in Drop C# tuning though :laugh:
Apart from BD, what's your opinion about the Painkiller and Warpig?
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With lower tuning I would go with ceramic pickup eg Miracle Man. Don`t get me wrong, MM is not super modern flame throwing ultra metal pickup. Yes, it`s metal pickup but with little classic vibe as well.
Yeah, i guess ceramic is the most suitable solution for this situation!
MM will be the lowest risk option i guess but everyone seems to think that's like my Suhr Aldrich in some way.
What's your opinion for PK and Warpig in a Drop C# LP??
Have a nice Weekend BTW!
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holy diver should work perfectly
Hi Eric!!
I would probably take HD if i decide to go to the BD suggestion!!
It sounds more modern to me, not sure how it would handle palm mutes on a Drop C# LP though! :undecided:
What's your opinon for the PK and Warpig for my use?
Have a nice weekend!!
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Warpig is too much for what you're doing. PK is quite djenty pickup, not sure you'd want that for your style (it's really bright).
Go with black dog or holy diver.
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Warpig is too much for what you're doing. PK is quite djenty pickup, not sure you'd want that for your style (it's really bright).
Go with black dog or holy diver.
Cool, thank you for that!!
I'll let you know how that worked!! :smiley:
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Black Dog seems to an interesting pickup I would only be concerned about output especially for music like Gojira or Killswitch engaged.
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Black Dog seems to an interesting pickup I would only be concerned about output especially for music like Gojira or Killswitch engaged.
That's my though as well!
What do you think about Warpig?
I love how BD sounds, HD seems similar from a more modern view,
but as Gibson is a midrange, fat and vintage by nature i can only
make her angry by installing a hot modern pickup.
So Warpig somehow (at least to my ears) seems to be the most modern side of
BD that can handle quick Gojira/Killswitch Engaged palm mutes on Drop C#,
in addition to HD which seems i little loose on the low end.
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Personally I would endorse the suggestion made previously regarding the Miracle Man. It has enough of the Holy Diver character to keep you happy I think, with more output and a tight bottom end, likes being tuned down, and handles palm mutes and lead work like a champ.
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Keep in mind that apparently BD is a bright pickup. Regarding BD vs HD, Black dog seems to be more aggressive despite lower output.
What about new Ragnarok?
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Personally I would endorse the suggestion made previously regarding the Miracle Man. It has enough of the Holy Diver character to keep you happy I think, with more output and a tight bottom end, likes being tuned down, and handles palm mutes and lead work like a champ.
Hello Dave,
I'm glad hearing your advice too!
MM is my starting point so far, what do you think about the rest of the modern pickups like Warpig, Ragnarok or even Black Hawk and Impulse?
Do you think some of those will make a good pair with a Drop C# LP which is on the Mid to Bright side?
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Keep in mind that apparently BD is a bright pickup. Regarding BD vs HD, Black dog seems to be more aggressive despite lower output.
What about new Ragnarok?
Was thinking about Ragnarok as this would be the most modern of them all & a challenge for my LP as RG desinged for Misha's Jackson Guitar!
I kind think it would be too bright on an LP!!
Do we have someone on the forum who has already tried it on his LP?
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I'm afraid that non one has tried Ragnarok in LP yet as the pickup only came out week and a half ago.
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I have no experience with any of the pickups just mentioned (Impulse, Blackhawk) except for the Warpig
I have an alnico Warpig and an alnico Nailbomb in 24.75" scale guitars (Explorer & SG) tuned to C standard.
I find both of them to be good, but I I play a sludgy, Hellhammer-inspired form of doom metal.
I do have a Miracle Man as well (in an SG tuned EADGBE) and I tend to think that it is a bit tighter sounding but with an output between the Warpig and the Nailbomb. It is also smoother and more 'civilized' sounding than either
I hope this helps
It has been mentioned on these forums a couple of times that the MM is closest in tone to the HD. In some ways it is like an overwound ceramic version of a Holy Diver
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I have alnico black hawks in a les paul. They are really bright but not in a piercing way if that makes sense. They are kinda odd pickup though, not for everyone.
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I play mostly in Eb and drop C# with my les paul custom-based Short Hydra with the holy diver in the bridge position and my heavily modded 50w 1973 Marshall JMP
the amp had an original Lee Jackson mod/rebuild, but I've done a lot of changes throughout the years (the original mod was way too dark, bassy and farty), so right now it has some sort of plexi/diezel vh4 hybrid circuit
this combo sounds great for most of the stuff you mentioned
I use a tc classic sustain parametric eq as a compressor and output/midrange booster, though, but my amp has a lot less saturation than an actual diezel vh4 on ch3 (I'd say it's around a non-boosted bogner shiva max gain level)
the black dog might have better picking articulation under gain, but the diver sustains better
I like the dog better for Gilbert-like medium/low gain leads, and maybe for Soundgarden stuff
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I have no experience with any of the pickups just mentioned (Impulse, Blackhawk) except for the Warpig
I have an alnico Warpig and an alnico Nailbomb in 24.75" scale guitars (Explorer & SG) tuned to C standard.
I find both of them to be good, but I I play a sludgy, Hellhammer-inspired form of doom metal.
I do have a Miracle Man as well (in an SG tuned EADGBE) and I tend to think that it is a bit tighter sounding but with an output between the Warpig and the Nailbomb. It is also smoother and more 'civilized' sounding than either
I hope this helps
It has been mentioned on these forums a couple of times that the MM is closest in tone to the HD. In some ways it is like an overwound ceramic version of a Holy Diver
What if i had a MM neck on the bridge? :rolleyes:
Just saw a post in which Nolly had this suggestion to a similar situation!
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I'm afraid that non one has tried Ragnarok in LP yet as the pickup only came out week and a half ago.
So it's going to be either MM or Impulse!
MM is the less risky choise, on the other hand Impulse somehow sounds a little more modern to my ears!
What about a MM neck on the bridge?
How would that sound?? :evil:
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I really don't know. I can tell you that the Miracle Man bridge + Cold Sweat neck combo is a good one, that's what I have in my SG Standard. Both pickups are great for leads and you get very nice cleans from the CS neck
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I'll never agree that the miracle man is anywhere similar to the holy diver, except that they are both great rock and metal pickups, with great lead tones and pinch harmonics
the holy diver is a lot middier, the miracle man is a lot bassier and treblier and they respond differently in most contexts
the neck miracle man in the bridge could be compared with the bridge diver, but it's more like a modern voiced warpig with less grindy center mids than like a holy diver
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I'll never agree that the miracle man is anywhere similar to the holy diver, except that they are both great rock and metal pickups, with great lead tones and pinch harmonics
the holy diver is a lot middier, the miracle man is a lot bassier and treblier and they respond differently in most contexts
the neck miracle man in the bridge could be compared with the bridge diver, but it's more like a modern voiced warpig with less grindy center mids than like a holy diver
I'm afraid that HD is as middier as my Suhr Aldrich bridge!
And it's been a pain in the a.... trying to find a good modern sound with my already Middle/Bright LP on Kemper... :undecided:
My other guitarist has a prs custom 22 with dragon 2 bridge (Magnet: Alnico 4, DC Res: 12k)
and i was able to make a bunch of cool modern high gain sounds in his Kemper!!
So that tells me that i need a similar combination with my LP to be flexible with the Kemper.
Both MM & Impulse have lower mids so they will be a good pair with my middy LP.
I always have a Tube Screamer in front just to mention!
Haven't got many infos about Impulse except one great video from youtube with a LP, so i'm wondering if i should go
Ceramic MM or the neck MM on the Bridge!
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If you liked A4 magnet pickup with output around 12, take a closer look at Abraxas bridge. It`s mostly associated with more mellower and more vintage type of sound, but I remember someone saying here than is capable of more mean tone with modern rig. Tube screamer might help.
Just a thought, but... I still think that you`ll be happy with MM.
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the dragon 2 sounds more like the emerald, but even brighter
quite trebly and not smooth like an abraxas
I had it in a 96 mccarty
also had the mccarty bridge in it, but that was way too soft
that prs sounded absolutely great with a riff raff in the bridge (even better than my 73 lp custom) and was surpringly really good for metal with a ts9 in front of the amp
I love the miracle man too and it sounds great for mark tremonti, KsE, and some older mastodon stuff, but it's quite different from jerry cantrell or adam jones tones
if you're really looking for a more modern voicing, then it is one of the best
I'd take the MM over the PK, WP and AM any day (haven't owned the JN or BH)
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Erik, would you call MM modern sounding pickup? To my ears is not that modern when you compare it to recent models.
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Erik, would you call MM modern sounding pickup? To my ears is not that modern when you compare it to recent models.
That's why i was thinking the Impulse solution (DC Resistance: 12.7 kΩ)!!
It seems to have kind of the same Midd scouped character,
other than that neck MM on the bridge seems the way to go.
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I wouldn't say that the Miracle Man is 'modern' ... it has more of an '80s character, like the Cold Sweat and Holy Diver.
Of course for any baby boomers out there '80s is modern, ha ha
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well, EMG's are from the 80's and they will always sound "modern" to me, cause that only became a popular signature sound after late 90's (although a lot of big bands used them since the 80's)
it's not like the pickup industry did any relevant innovation attempts after the early 80's
riff raffs sound great for modern metal but they do not sound modern by themselves
the miracle man sounds great for a lot of 80's stuff, but it's not an actual 80's sounding pickup like the cold sweat or rebel yell
there are some obvious combos that just sound exactly like some would expect from an era signature sound
a nailbomb can do great classic rock into a plexi, but it won't sound like early 70's AC/DC like a Riff Raff would
a miracle man into a rectifier or 5150, for example, sounds just like a lot of metal bands from the last decade, like they were made for each other, specially with the most obvious overdrive pedals that just make things better, but also fall into a (good) tone cliché
it doesn't mean it can't do 80's hard rock well in other amps
a cold sweat also sounds modern through a rectifier, but not miracle man modern
after the djent phenomenon seems like pickups should sound tighter and scratchier to be even perceived as modern sounding
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well, EMG's are from the 80's and they will always sound "modern" to me, cause that only became a popular signature sound after late 90's (although a lot of big bands used them since the 80's)
it's not like the pickup industry did any relevant innovation attempts after the early 80's
riff raffs sound great for modern metal but they do not sound modern by themselves
the miracle man sounds great for a lot of 80's stuff, but it's not an actual 80's sounding pickup like the cold sweat or rebel yell
there are some obvious combos that just sound exactly like some would expect from an era signature sound
a nailbomb can do great classic rock into a plexi, but it won't sound like early 70's AC/DC like a Riff Raff would
a miracle man into a rectifier or 5150, for example, sounds just like a lot of metal bands from the last decade, like they were made for each other, specially with the most obvious overdrive pedals that just make things better, but also fall into a (good) tone cliché
it doesn't mean it can't do 80's hard rock well in other amps
a cold sweat also sounds modern through a rectifier, but not miracle man modern
after the djent phenomenon seems like pickups should sound tighter and scratchier to be even perceived as modern sounding
I surely agree with this Eric :smiley:
I'm not really into djent sound that's for sure!
MM seems like a good idea from day one, my only issue and the reason that i'm thinking the Impulse
(apart from the fact that they both have scooped mids) is the last mail i had from Tim in which he told me that:
"In my experience I find that the really high output humbuckers like the WPC reproduce too much bottom end when tuned low in a LP.
Impulse would be a better option in this respect as it's very much designed for lower tunings. "
So i guess Impulse is:
The most modern, mid scooped, tight bottom end with a DC Resistance: 12.7 kΩ in here!!
I'm afraid that the 17.4 kΩ MM + Tube Screamer => Kemper (Diezel Herbert) would be an untamed beast :laugh:
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I'm afraid that the 17.4 kΩ MM + Tube Screamer => Kemper (Diezel Herbert) would be an untamed beast :laugh:
I suppose that amp matters a lot in that manner, but I always run compressor pedal (always on) in front of my amp (not hi gain though... Orange Dual Terror) and my Miracle Man is not flame throwing beast... yes, metal pickup but quite tamed and well behaving :)
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To me the Miracle Man and the ceramic Warpig seem like quite different animals.
The Warpig has a ton of bass, more than the MM
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the miracle man is quite bassy but definitely not an untamed beast
it's not as high output and some might expect (definitely not as hot and aggressive as a nailbomb, painkiller or ceramic warpig)
and the low end is thumpy, but it doesn't spill all over
it's a pretty focused sounding pickup, specially with a tube screamer
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Hello Guys!
An update today..
Talked with Ben and his suggestion was:
"Sounds like you need more definition and a more modern edge. I recommend the Aftermath bridge for bass response and low-end clarity. To pair with that I recommend the Cold Sweat neck for a cleaner and smoother feel."
Love the Cold Sweat in the neck as this would be my choise too!
But i would like to take one step back from Aftermath just for the versatility of things!
So Black Hawk in the bridge sounds like a good idea towards the modern side.
Impulse is a though too!
My only issue and the reason i haven't order one, is that i always like to adjust
my pickup's screws and use them as my first "EQ" :evil:
This unfortunately can't be done with Black Hawk and Impulse and
i believe that THIS is the main i reason for not being so famous
in the forum among us..
So the question is!!
Which pickup with pole screws is the closest to Black Hawk bridge??? :smiley:
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I don't know, it's strange, I've seen both the Black Hawk and the Miracle Man compared to EMGs, but to me they seem different from one another.
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I don't know, it's strange, I've seen both the Black Hawk and the Miracle Man compared to EMGs, but to me they seem different from one another.
Adjusting the pole screws on MM though can somehow give you more tonal options apart from it's main voicing!!
With Black Hawk / Impulse you're stuck with just the overall pickup height!! :undecided:
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They are completely different. Miracle man is supposed to be an EMG alternative because it's a bit compressed, has balls and output.
Black hawk is definitely closer to an active. It's "even sounding" because of the blades and has lots of output, low end is pretty fast and is quite sharp.
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They are completely different. Miracle man is supposed to be an EMG alternative because it's a bit compressed, has balls and output.
Black hawk is definitely closer to an active. It's "even sounding" because of the blades and has lots of output, low end is pretty fast and is quite sharp.
Am i crazy for thinking ordering a Juggernaut set?? :evil:
Being listening to the clips and after all this search i finally understood that:
Aftermath seems sterile for me..
Black hawk/Impulse is what it is, love them but it doesn't gives me the opportunity to adjust screws height (which i love & always do)
Painkiller would be a little too much bright in an already bright LP..
Holy Diver is almost there!!! (especially if you use a Tubescreamer in front of the amp)
Miracle Man would probably get lost in the mix due to the beefy strings gauge and the low tuning C#..
Cold sweat i would love to go this way if it was a little more modern in voicing..
Nailbomb doesn't like low tunings and beefy strings..
Ragnarok is still a mystery in a LP..
Haha so???
Juggernaut in a Gibson LP!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuCNEite9gg
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If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.
Not sure on the Juggernaut.
I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine. In fact it is my go-to guitar. The guitar itself is pretty dark though. Strings are 11-56
I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone. It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0
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If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.
Not sure on the Juggernaut.
I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine. In fact it is my go-to guitar. The guitar itself is pretty dark though. Strings are 11-56
I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone. It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0
Goodmorning Dave!!
Thanks for the video, it was a joy to see you perform, i loved the tone as well!!
Ben from BK told me that Ragnarok is too heavy saturated, Jugger just seems a little more versatile at the moment!!
Wish we had some more feedback from the forum about Ragnarok!
Have a nice weekend!!
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Cheers, I'm glad you liked it.
The amp is a Peavey 6534+ with the standard Ruby EL34BHT tubes (actually this is a replacement set, but it came with a set of those) and a mixture of Tung Sol, Ruby, and Sovtek tubes in the preamp (Ruby AC5 HG on the lead channel, Sovtek LPS for the PI, and the rest Tung Sol). The screen resistors have also been changed and all of the solder in the amp was replaced, and the amp biased a little hotter than stock. Really though besides the basic amp design most of it is the pickups, the EQ settings, and a couple of nice pedals like the Ghost Echo. Personally I think the picks have an impact on the tone, as does the way a person plays. You could use the same gear and settings and sound different. The picks I use are just 1.14 Dunlop Max Grips, nothing special but a fairly stiff pick. I don't think changing the tubes made a massive difference, although I did have a Tung Sol in V2 for a short while and I did notice that was too strident for me, and I swapped it with a Ruby and moved the Tung Sol to V3 (effects loop).
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Not sure on the Juggernaut.
Dave, do you think that Ragnarok will be a better fit for me?
Ben suggestion was Aftermath but i was afraid due to its "dry & sterile" nature!
Maybe capac can help me as well, he has an aftermath in his LP if i'm right...
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I haven't heard enough of the Ragnarok but to me they sound like they fit in the middle between the Miracle Man and the Painkiller.
I don't like the Aftermaths much either.
Here's a couple of videos of the Ragnarok.
Not in a Les Paul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ree6yp8qH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B___tTa__qw
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Excellent tone here. Love the vocals on this too.. a lot.
If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.
Not sure on the Juggernaut.
I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine. In fact it is my go-to guitar. The guitar itself is pretty dark though. Strings are 11-56
I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone. It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0
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Cheers for the nice comments on our video.
You can download the demo free from our Bandcamp these days. Tracks 1 & 3 are all alnico bridge Nailbomb. Track 2 is alnico bridge Warpig for the first half, and then alnico bridge Nailbomb for the second half, with the neck Nailbomb on the lead part. Track 4 is all bridge Warpig.
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I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the bridge. Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings. Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120. Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.
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I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the bridge. Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings. Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120. Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.
Was thinking about A-Bomb, but i'm closer to juggernaut or something similar?
cause my band's style has some quick like "system of a down" parts like the
first song from this album!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7oBbClH18
That's my band's latest release by the way! :smiley:
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I think A-bomb should do for that kinda stuff ;).
P.S: I quite like your album ;).
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I think A-bomb should do for that kinda stuff ;).
P.S: I quite like your album ;).
I think too!!
And you can always compress the signal as much as you want after all..
I'm glad you liked it :smiley:
What pickup are you playing the most at the moment??
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At the moment, I'm playing SD nazgul because it came stock in my mayones. It's slightly higher output than aftermath, not as tight and a little muddier and more compressed. Will get some BKPs in as soon as I get some extra cash to spend on pickups :grin: (thinking nailbomb, maybe ragnarok, maybe black dog).
I have alnico black hawks in my les paul. They are cool, but they don't sound really raw and aggressive like aftermath does. Pretty tight though :wink:.
I no longer own aftermath just because I didn't have any guitars I'd put it in at the time, so I sold it. It can sound pretty fatiguing and the tone is a little harder to dial in, but it is tight and precise. Kinda miss it.
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At the moment, I'm playing SD nazgul because it came stock in my mayones. It's slightly higher output than aftermath, not as tight and a little muddier and more compressed. Will get some BKPs in as soon as I get some extra cash to spend on pickups :grin: (thinking nailbomb, maybe ragnarok, maybe black dog).
I have alnico black hawks in my les paul. They are cool, but they don't sound really raw and aggressive like aftermath does. Pretty tight though :wink:.
I no longer own aftermath just because I didn't have any guitars I'd put it in at the time, so I sold it. It can sound pretty fatiguing and the tone is a little harder to dial in, but it is tight and precise. Kinda miss it.
Haha, man we both sound like you want a pickup one step back from what Aftermath is!!
Keeping the tight part, some kind less compressive and a bit more organic too,
i wonder if we descriping the Juggernaut here... :laugh:
I love my "Fat" Les Paul but those Mayones are so f... tempting!!
The ultimate modern guitar.. Prs too, ok ok :laugh:
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I'd love to own a PRS, but core models are super expensive new and mayones plays like a dream and sounds amazing. I don't really play les paul that much (used to be my main for years) just bevause I prefer a more modern guitar as far as playability goes.
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I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the bridge. Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings. Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120. Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.
Was thinking about A-Bomb, but i'm closer to juggernaut or something similar?
cause my band's style has some quick like "system of a down" parts like the
first song from this album!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7oBbClH18
That's my band's latest release by the way! :smiley:
Why are you thinking the Juggernaut?
I have a Juggernaut set in a 6 string superstrat with a locking trem and in a 7 string hardtail superstrat.
I'd say that the juggernauts are quite low mid focused in tone but they are super versatile excelling at cleans, leads, and low / high gain rhythm. I use an ibanez style wiring with a 5 way blade switch for both of them. **NOTE** both these guitars are very acoustically bright instruments with not a lot of low end.
The A-Bomb in the Les Paul will definitely be closer to your band's sound. It has more hair & snarl to the sound and it really excels at blues and crunch / rhythm tones. It does solos and leads fine with the right amp but it's not a jack of all trades like a Juggernaut is. My only real concern with a Juggernaut in a Les Paul is the predominance of low mids but one forum member here really liked a Juggernaut in a Les Paul. It comes down to preference.
The Rebel Yell N / A-Bomb bridge combo is amazing in my Les Paul with 11 - 52 strings in Drop C#. I think it'd work REALLY well for your sort of style!
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I wouldn't put juggs in a les paul either. No matter what Misha tells you, they'd just sound muddy in a les paul. I'd go A-bomb.
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I'd love to own a PRS, but core models are super expensive new and mayones plays like a dream and sounds amazing. I don't really play les paul that much (used to be my main for years) just bevause I prefer a more modern guitar as far as playability goes.
Our singer plays a PRS and it's so much easier to play than a LP that makes me
wanna buy one today!!
Which Mayones model do you own?
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I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the bridge. Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings. Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120. Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.
Was thinking about A-Bomb, but i'm closer to juggernaut or something similar?
cause my band's style has some quick like "system of a down" parts like the
first song from this album!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7oBbClH18
That's my band's latest release by the way! :smiley:
Why are you thinking the Juggernaut?
I have a Juggernaut set in a 6 string superstrat with a locking trem and in a 7 string hardtail superstrat.
I'd say that the juggernauts are quite low mid focused in tone but they are super versatile excelling at cleans, leads, and low / high gain rhythm. I use an ibanez style wiring with a 5 way blade switch for both of them. **NOTE** both these guitars are very acoustically bright instruments with not a lot of low end.
The A-Bomb in the Les Paul will definitely be closer to your band's sound. It has more hair & snarl to the sound and it really excels at blues and crunch / rhythm tones. It does solos and leads fine with the right amp but it's not a jack of all trades like a Juggernaut is. My only real concern with a Juggernaut in a Les Paul is the predominance of low mids but one forum member here really liked a Juggernaut in a Les Paul. It comes down to preference.
The Rebel Yell N / A-Bomb bridge combo is amazing in my Les Paul with 11 - 52 strings in Drop C#. I think it'd work REALLY well for your sort of style!
Thanks for listening our stuff!! :smiley:
Well i have an Suhr Aldrich on the bridge and lately had some cool results having it
way down from the strings, something like 4 to 4.5mm!!
I really liked how compressed on the lows the Aldrich is, but i really hate
the way it pronounce everything above 1.0 Kh, so having it that low
and lowering the treble side poles as well gave me something closer
to what had in mind first place!
In that direction i wanted something more modern than my Aldrich fellow,
in order to make the whole LP more modern!
Ben suggested Aftermath Bridge and Cold Sweat Neck,
but your thoughs here about the AM made me skeptical and although i know
Juggernauts are not made for LP it seems that they are
the "one step back"(versatile & compression wise)
from AM pickup on Bare knucle roster..
Which LP friendly pickup do you think that would be near as compressed as AM but a little
less sterile?
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Aftermath isn't super compressed. I'd say you're looking at miracle man if you want more organic compression... For me, it's kinda scooped.
I play mayones duvell 6. I also like regius and hydria looks cool (wasn't out at the time). I just love how it plays. Bolt on is super solid and accesing 24th fret is a breeze. Neck is pretty thin but comfy - regiuses tend to have a touch thicker neck.
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I still think the holy diver with the proper boost setup should work perfectly for you
great album, by the way
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This thread makes me want to record my A-both loaded Las Paul. Then you will see....
It is the appropriate pickup for aggressive tones in a LP style guitar.
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I still think the holy diver with the proper boost setup should work perfectly for you
great album, by the way
Thank you Eric!!
I'm glad you liked it, am gonna post some studio photos from the studio
for you guys :smiley:
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Aftermath isn't super compressed. I'd say you're looking at miracle man if you want more organic compression... For me, it's kinda scooped.
I play mayones duvell 6. I also like regius and hydria looks cool (wasn't out at the time). I just love how it plays. Bolt on is super solid and accesing 24th fret is a breeze. Neck is pretty thin but comfy - regiuses tend to have a touch thicker neck.
Regius have the same woods like Duvell but better parts?
They are like 500 to 600 euros more expenssive!
Am gonna drop them an email for artists discount soon,
just waiting for some Canadian shows to be confirmed!
A Regius with Ragnarok that may be... :evil:
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This thread makes me want to record my A-both loaded Las Paul. Then you will see....
It is the appropriate pickup for aggressive tones in a LP style guitar.
Haha, it seems like a good suggestion!
Really interesting to hear it if you could find some time!
Had some close to us fans that i've spoken to them about BK
sending me messages about this threat,
telling me that they have learned so much informations about
Bare knucles on LPs they don't have to search no more :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Regius isn't about better parts. Just different model. You get the same stock puckups, tuners, bridges... Regius is a neck through so a little more expensive to produce. Duvell is just a simpler guitar and I prefer it to regius personally.