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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Vinni on April 15, 2006, 10:56:32 AM

Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 15, 2006, 10:56:32 AM: Hi all..

First posting....

I have just bought this '78 all walnut Gibson The Paul.
Yes....that's correct....alle walnut. The fretboard is ebony.

Looking for a PAF-style PU with more output and more good lows and
lots of dynamics. Good coil tapped sound is a must too.
I play oldschool rock and use a fair amount of gain. No real matal though.
And somtimes need a single coil sound.

Any recommendations?

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Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Elliot on April 15, 2006, 11:08:57 AM: I reckon coiled tapped Mules
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: _tom_ on April 15, 2006, 11:39:37 AM: Quote from: Elliot
I reckon coiled tapped Mules

+1, mules are great in LPs.

Also, nice guitar although I dont like the positioning of the switch too much, the grain is so nice
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: March on April 15, 2006, 11:52:33 AM: It's screaming for a set of Mules!
Another +1 then!
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: froglord on April 15, 2006, 12:03:09 PM: Mules, again! Very dynamic and coil tap pretty well. I don't think you'll ever get a true single-coil sound from a tapped humbucker (something to do with them using different magnets if I remember correctly), but the Mules do a decent job tapped.

Interestingly (or not, depending on your point of view :D ) I've also got an option to use my Mules wired in parallel. The sound isn't nearly as good as the true coil tap - lacks the top-end sweetness.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 15, 2006, 12:08:48 PM: Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies....

To be honest....I was more thinking of a Vintage Hot HB set.
Like the Blackdog, Emerald or VHII.

Like I said.....the sound I'm looking for is PAF with more output and
stronger lows. Oh yeah.... and a nice Coil Tapped sound.

So your recommendation on the Mule suprised me!

Care to eleborate?

Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: sambo on April 15, 2006, 12:09:03 PM: no idea on pups mate... but oh my god..... that guitar is stunning!!!!

i love natural finish LP's.... really beautiful mate....
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: froglord on April 15, 2006, 12:17:21 PM: Yeah, forgot to say how much I like that LP - mmm, walnut.

Like Sambo, I find a good slab of raw wood on a guitar kind of, well ... erotic.

I'd call the Mules "vintage hot". I suppose it just depends how hot you're expecting them to be. Tim gigs with the Mules and plays metal with them, so they should have enough output for what you need, unless you're after the modern scooped sound.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: sambo on April 15, 2006, 12:38:11 PM: Like Sambo, I find a good slab of raw wood on a guitar kind of, well ... erotic

HAHA! :lol:

yer from what ive heard (not sound- heard as in other people say... well other people type any way :? ) mules would fit the bill... if not then im not sure.... strong lows wouldnt really be black dogs or emeralds (i dont think anyway....) but having said that most people say all BKPs have good lows n everything else! so i dunno really lol...

i get lost in pup questions cause i spit out all this stuff ive got from hearsay that i dont actually know...

ignore me
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 15, 2006, 12:38:21 PM: wire the coil tap up as a variable coil split using the tone pot - you can then dial in the amount of coil split. LOTS of tones available from this setup.

:twisted:
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: PhilKing on April 15, 2006, 12:44:25 PM: I'm actually voting for VHII's, they have a bit more bottom end in them and will push a bit more. I have them in a PRS and they sound great in the split positions too.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 15, 2006, 01:24:29 PM: Thanks again guys,

I really appreciate your replies.

Nice to see so many active forummembers.
10 replies within two hours!

Keep those replies coming...
Though descicion! :x

Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: froglord on April 15, 2006, 01:24:45 PM: Having recommended the Mules (and I still do), it's well worth listening to Phil - he's got more BKPs than BKP have.

Probably your best option is to phone Tim and tell him exactly what you want. If he doesn't make a pickup that suits you, he'll modify an existing one to your tastes.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Ced777 on April 15, 2006, 01:40:02 PM: VH II for a bit more power and thumping bass.
Mule for a bit more richness in the mids.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: downrodeo on April 15, 2006, 03:25:50 PM: Have you thought of an Abraxas? It's a vintage sounding pickup, hotter than the Mule but has a reputation for having a similar character but, like I said, it's hotter.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 15, 2006, 05:42:46 PM: I'm gonna agree with Phil on this one, VHII, with a dotted line recommendation for the Black Dog. I reserve outrightly recommending the Black Dogs just because I'm not sure how it will sound in a walnut guitar.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: carlaz on April 18, 2006, 12:02:18 PM: I'm gonna say Crawlers. I know the BKP product page calls them "Contemporary" rather than "Vintage Hot", but while being pretty hot, they actually have a lot of vintage feel in 'em .... The neck pup is identical to the Abraxas anyway, though the bridge has a touch more grunt than the Abraxas bridge. Still, they've a hell of a lot more vintage feel than the Miracle Men or their ilk! And I can vouch for their coil-tap-ability, having a coil-tap switch in my Crawler-loaded LP. :)
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: indysmith on April 18, 2006, 01:06:07 PM: +1 ont he VHII. <<THE>> vintage hot pickup.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 18, 2006, 01:23:25 PM: Hi,

I just talked to someone at BKP...Forgot his name :oops:

I've ordered a calibrated set of Cold Sweats..
Nickelcover....

Why? Because of the sound in combination with the Walnut and the
output that pushes the amp.

It has a little more output but it's not a metal PU.

Hmm....can't wait!

Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: downrodeo on April 18, 2006, 03:48:17 PM: That's awesome man! Not too many people with a calibrated CS set on the board, I think. Very interesting choice! Let us know how they work out and I hope you find your dream tone!
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Searcher on April 18, 2006, 05:09:26 PM: Nice looking guitar. I'm gonna throw somehting different out and see what you think. Have you considered a Mississippi Queen pickup for the neck? It's a humbucker-sized P-90 pickup and will give you more authentic single coil sounds than a tapped humbucker. On the other hand, it won't give you as authentic humbucking sounds. ;)
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 18, 2006, 05:13:59 PM: Hahahaha.....

Thanks for the compliments on my guitar.

No...I'm a HB-guy only....

Have had my share of strats and tele's.
But I really want muscle in my sound.

Today I ordered the CS's.... yesterday I ordered some stuff form Stewmac.
Need some stuff from RS Guitarworks and a new Tonepros bridge/tail.

It's gonna be a real rockmonster!

Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Searcher on April 18, 2006, 05:25:16 PM: I didn't see the second page of replies! Doh! I wouldn't have recommended pickups after you'd already ordered some if I'd seen your last post before mine. :lol:

I'm sure you'll love your new pups when they come in. Have fun.
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: lulusg on April 19, 2006, 02:24:03 AM: Pots from Rsguitarworks, Tonepros II, excellent and do not forget the bone nut too. You can order it at Rsguitarworks, for a total monster git. Enjoy :)
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: Vinni on April 19, 2006, 10:05:46 PM: Well....to be honest....

I'm not sure about a bone nut.

Is it really better than the Graphtec nuts?

I've always had the black G nuts.
But I must be honest....
Strings always get sticky after a while.

I ordered nutsause by the way.....

Vinni
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: lulusg on April 20, 2006, 12:22:12 AM: I could not say which one is better :roll: , but anything to better the tone is welcome. :)
Title: Need some HB's for very specific sound/guitar
Post by: HJM on April 20, 2006, 01:06:24 PM: VH11s would be good as PhilKing said. There's more bottom end, and when split the extra turns on the screw coil give a stronger single coil tone. Parallel wiring works very well too, single coilish tone with hum cancelling.