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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: OD-Black_Fire on April 20, 2006, 11:59:50 PM

Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on April 20, 2006, 11:59:50 PM: Eventualy, I'm going to get to the point that I need a nice evil looking guitar that I can fit some nice evil sounding warpigs and tune it to the nice evil drop c.

I really like the ESP Eclipse Vintage Blacks. There is a LTD version too, I love the matt black finish and gold binding. The LTD version is also cheaper and has 24 frets, which I like, but is has EMG's. EMGS are nice pickups, I don't really want to have a pair sitting around. I'd rather find a guitar that has the look and feel that I want but has some cheap pickups that I don't mind tossing. Ibanez for example, great bodies and necks but the lower/mid range models have weak pickups, but Ibanez doesn't have the body I want.

I need something thick, hardtail, mahogany, like the EC-1000VB. I have a EC-1000 with the See-through black cherry and its a great guitar. It feels so nice, it's insane that it cost less than $700.

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that has the type of guitar body I want (EC/les paul like, black, 24 frets thick neck would be nice) and passive pickups? Is it hard to convert an active guitar to running with passive pickups?
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: sambo on April 21, 2006, 12:18:46 AM: dunno mate, first thing that sprung to mind was ESP... but then i read you had one already, and are looking at one... cant think of any others... but then my knowledge of axes is pretty cr@p.

but yer, ESPs definately do seem to fit the bill... from your description/requirements... then they seem like the obvious choice, and like you say, you have one and love it... so why not just get another similar one (like the EC1000VB you mentioned) and mod it?.... sounds like a good plan to me...
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Ratrod on April 21, 2006, 04:53:44 PM: Actually, thinking 'evil guitar', BC Rich Warlock Mick 7 signature with the big 'HATE' inlay. Put some Warpigs in there and you'll have the most evil guitar in the world.

It will scare women and children and some grown men. Your dog will run away from you with it's tail between it's legs as soon as you take the guitar out of the case.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: maliciousteve on April 21, 2006, 05:09:46 PM: You could look out for an Agile les paul on ebay
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on April 21, 2006, 05:26:20 PM: OR, a Schecter
Title: Re: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Johnny Mac on April 21, 2006, 05:42:02 PM: Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
Eventualy, I'm going to get to the point that I need a nice evil looking guitar that I can fit some nice evil sounding warpigs and tune it to the nice evil drop c.

I really like the ESP Eclipse Vintage Blacks. There is a LTD version too, I love the matt black finish and gold binding. The LTD version is also cheaper and has 24 frets, which I like, but is has EMG's. EMGS are nice pickups, I don't really want to have a pair sitting around. I'd rather find a guitar that has the look and feel that I want but has some cheap pickups that I don't mind tossing. Ibanez for example, great bodies and necks but the lower/mid range models have weak pickups, but Ibanez doesn't have the body I want.

I need something thick, hardtail, mahogany, like the EC-1000VB. I have a EC-1000 with the See-through black cherry and its a great guitar. It feels so nice, it's insane that it cost less than $700.

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that has the type of guitar body I want (EC/les paul like, black, 24 frets thick neck would be nice) and passive pickups? Is it hard to convert an active guitar to running with passive pickups?

I've been considering an ESP Eclipse for the same things, Piggys! You can get them with SD's which are cheaper than the EMG loaded ones, then just ebay them.

One thing that just caught my eye is a PRS Tremonti SE. They are around £340 here and they have a 25" scale length which is ideal for drop tunings. Mahogony too. With a good set up and maybe upgraded pots too, i reckon it could be ok. I'm still thinking about getting one. The thing is I've changed my mind so many times! Too much gas going on here.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Twinfan on April 21, 2006, 08:35:11 PM: Very chunky neck on the SEs - I don't like them, but lots of people do. Make sure you try before you buy...
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Searcher on April 21, 2006, 09:58:55 PM: Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
OR, a Schecter

+1

I think their prices aren't bad at all for what you get.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: james on April 22, 2006, 03:21:10 AM: Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
OR, a Schecter
Yeah, I was going to say that.

Just don't get the cheapest ones. (I did, and it fell to pieces)
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: ibanez4life SZ on April 22, 2006, 04:03:11 AM: Ibanez SZ maybe? Feels alot like a perfect morph between a PRS and a les paul....really a great feel....thick, but not too thick....very nice sound, only problem is that pups could use a swap.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: james on April 22, 2006, 05:00:03 AM: Mmm...The SZ520 is amazing.

Also, this yamaha looks very similar, but is a bit cheaper, check it out

http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-RGX520FZ-Electric-Guitar-i160735.music

It's not as fancy though.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: indysmith on April 22, 2006, 10:20:28 AM: +1 on Ibanez SZ, it sounds perfect for your needs, other than that you said you don't like ibanez style bodies yu vain bar-steward. It'd rock your c--k with warpigs! 8) :twisted:
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: booboo_bass on April 22, 2006, 01:37:10 PM: Get a cort! Very underrated guitars! Nothing but good reviews on harmony central. (i also have one and its great)

http://www.cort.com/guitars/x_models/index.html

...not les paul like you wanted but still pretty eeevil me thinks
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on April 22, 2006, 06:39:00 PM: Yeah, I want a dark colored guitar, like the EC-100VB, but it has active pickups, how hard would it be to change from active to passive?
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: rinse_master on April 22, 2006, 08:20:49 PM: Quote from: OD-Black_Fire
how hard would it be to change from active to passive?

Not hard, as far as I know you just need some new pots & caps, and passive pickups of course
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Spleen on April 23, 2006, 12:44:39 AM: It doesn't have 24 frets but the Dean Evo Noir sounds perfect for you. I have an Evo and it's a very good mid-range guitar.

Here's a link to the Evo noir http://www.deanguitars.com/bnds_v1/evo_noir_cb.htm
and a picture!
(http://www.deanguitars.com/images/evo_noir.jpg)
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: indysmith on April 23, 2006, 01:00:01 AM: http://www.ibanez.co.jp/eg_page.php?PAGE_ID=487&COLOR=CL01&AREA_ID=3
Hmmm well this is what i'm thinking
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on April 23, 2006, 05:53:11 AM: Those sell prestige's sell for about $1100 D: But yeah, I saw that.

And I can't forget I forgot about Dean. $%&#, I saw one of those hanging up, I should have tried it. I used Dean Evo Special Select, it was alright, weird neck scale, hated it, but the Noir has 24 3/4, perfect. I don't mind 22 fret, too.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: monkeywalker on April 23, 2006, 07:27:13 PM: in my opinion dean guitars are quite underrated, there are some good models by them out there.

i'd probably go for that evo noir.

it sounds pretty good to me. ideal for what you want.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Sifu Ben on April 24, 2006, 03:12:50 PM: I'd go for a Schecter C1 blackjack. Very classy looking and well built, and MUCH cheaper.
The Dean Vendetta is a good guitar of this type as well (indeed, I'm thinking of getting one for my next GAS attack), but I'm not sure if the 4.0 model comes in black.
I'm another Cort owner and I love mine, something like the Katana may suit you.
Title: Good guitar to modify
Post by: Johnny Mac on April 24, 2006, 05:26:49 PM: Quote from: Spleen
It doesn't have 24 frets but the Dean Evo Noir sounds perfect for you. I have an Evo and it's a very good mid-range guitar.

Here's a link to the Evo noir http://www.deanguitars.com/bnds_v1/evo_noir_cb.htm
and a picture!
(http://www.deanguitars.com/images/evo_noir.jpg)

Woah! That's a tasty one! Stoppit your giving more gas!