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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Sean on May 10, 2006, 03:22:07 AM

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2006, 03:22:07 AM

I'm building an lp copy (typical mahogany body, neck with maple cap) and will be using a set of mules or riff raffs (haven't decided yet, waiting on the clips!).  Les Pauls are usually set up with 0.022uf caps and your schmaticis show 0.047uf caps.  What is the difference in sound?  Does one have a more useable tone range (no mud)?

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2006, 03:22:57 AM

I'll also be using 50's wiring.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Dave Simpson on May 10, 2006, 06:31:50 AM

When I asked Tim about it he said that he prefers the .022 as they are not as harsh sounding as the .047 caps.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Twinfan on May 10, 2006, 07:49:47 AM

If that's the case, why state .047 on the wiring instructions???

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Dave Simpson on May 10, 2006, 08:18:59 AM

Don't know. If you look on the Seymour Duncan websites wiring diagrams they all show .047 expect for the wiring diagrams with single conductor wire. Those show a .022.

I think the .022's were used with PAF style pickups and the .047's with higher output pickups. :? I could be wrong. I guess it's all a matter of personal preference. :?

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Twinfan on May 10, 2006, 08:25:53 AM

Yeah, sounds about right.  I guess the 0.22s let a bit more treble through, and .047s will soften the treble a bit on hotter pickups.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2006, 03:00:07 PM

I would love if Tim could chime in on this.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Tim on May 10, 2006, 09:10:58 PM

Apologies, been away at LGS and now caught up in a monster back log of orders................   .022 was used on the PAFs and is less vicious than a .047 although the .047 does seem to find it's way into most modern wiring.The .047 reacts very quickly and a touch too much IMHO so I stick with .022 and at the moment am enjoying the Havland Musicaps.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Tim on May 10, 2006, 09:39:40 PM

Apologies, been away at LGS and now caught up in a monster back log of orders................   .022 was used on the PAFs and is less vicious than a .047 although the .047 does seem to find it's way into most modern wiring.The .047 reacts very quickly and a touch too much IMHO so I stick with .022 and at the moment am enjoying the Havland Musicaps.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: sgmypod on May 10, 2006, 11:32:02 PM

how do we get these caps you mention Tim

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Dakine on May 10, 2006, 11:59:03 PM

https://secure.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/acatalog/Wilmslow_Audio_Hovland_MusiCap_48.html

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: sgmypod on May 11, 2006, 10:28:24 PM

so loudspeaker caps but work in guitars.....guess the .22 600v are the ones Tim is on about

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: Bainzy on May 11, 2006, 10:44:00 PM

I just bought my lifetime stash of guitar tone circuit caps from this guy:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-Qty-25-x-0-022uf-250V-Axial-Poly-Capacitor-NR_W0QQitemZ7614462675QQcategoryZ4662QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

fantastic price - 99p for 25!!!

They're fairly high quality caps (not audiophile, but higher than most) and sound great in guitars. I've tried swapping out the .022uF capacitor in my guitars with most types (ceramic, orange drops, mallories, sozos etc) and settled on the Mallories for giving me the best sound. They're also good for amps so if you have anywhere under 250v in your amp where they can be used you can use these and get a great sound.

Shipping was a bit high for 1 item, but I bought some other stuff from him so it worked out normal. Having said that, even with the shipping on top these are a bargain compared to what you'd usually pay for tone circuit caps from guitar orientated shops.

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: HTH AMPS on May 11, 2006, 11:27:52 PM

get some paper in oil caps, they're very nice indeed - SMOOTH!!!

 :twisted:

Title: 0.047uf cap? For an lp?
Post by: sgmypod on May 12, 2006, 06:28:15 AM

any particular make the oil ones and what are the sprague orange drop ones like?