Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: deadforever on May 13, 2006, 09:49:25 AM
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Alright I play an ESP Ltd M200 FM hot rodded with a schaller floyd rose and A Dimebucker /59 combo (before anyone trys the dimebuckers suck bullshitee, if you run it through the right gear you CAN get an incredible sound believe me) However Im thinking about purchasing another one of the same guitar and hotrodding it the same way, but Im thinking about choosing a different pickup to see if I can shape my tone so its a little more unique just to me. I've heard good things about BN so i figured Id come here for some advice. Basically the first thing i really need is absoloutely screaming natural harmonics on the thing, i use alot of variations of dimebag / Vai/EVH esque whammy techniques as well as some of my own ones which require harmonics to ring very loud, hence my Dimbucker, however at the same time I dont want to have to over do the treble and cause that sort of fuzzy sound.I'll try and explain this better, is there a BN pickup that could give me Dimes harmonics, The smootheness of Marty Friedmans tone and to top it off A tight , Bassy, and extremely powerfull rhythm tone similair to Darrells tone or the guys from Testament? I know its alot to ask but Im sure it is possible, by the way I triple up my leads using a Boss Metalizer pedal so Id quite like it to have as little noise as possible (otherwise it multiplys the noise three times!)
If anyone could help it would be appreciated, adios.
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miracle man, should do all you want also the nailbomb wud be cool might be a bit tame for your needs tho, mm imo wud rock your socks!
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ps i have had a mm in that guitar, and it screams
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Ive heard the miracle man but the stuff ive heard sounds a little too fizzy for my liking, i dunno if it was just the persons gear?
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it sizzles but its not nasty fuzz once u get your speakers and tubes going it just screams no harshness.
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I use solid state amps because I find they have a tighter sound for fatter rhythms that I cant get from tubes. Will this make a difference?
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I don't know the Dimebucker, but if it's similar to the Bill Lawrence L500XL, you won't get that sound from a Miracle Man. The L500XL has even thinner wire than the Miracle Man, which gives it that penetrating, sharp sound we all know. The Miracle Man is the tightest and hottest BK model, excellent for the Zakk Wylde sound, but it's not as extreme as an L500XL.
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It is more or less the exact same sound as an L500XL (Contrary to what some fanboys may tell you, but thats beside the point)
So I wont get that same kind of harmonic sound from a Bare Knuckle basically?
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the bl500 is a beast but lacks some of the tone the mm has imo
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Yeh well I am going to buy this pickup for me so....
Basically I need it to have the same level of output on harmonics as a BL or Dimebucker but with a slightly smoother tone, if it lacks either of those 2 then its a no go.
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The best thing to do is to mail Tim, as he does do custom winds / builds.
Rob...
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I dont really have the cash to go into custom territory right now :(
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^ i think it's the same price- since he's building to order anyway, if you order from the website...
but check with tim to be sure, lol.
:drink:
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The thing that sets BKP apart from the rest is that it doesn't cost anymore to have the pickup tweaked to your requirement - Give Tim a call and he will suggest a model and a wind to your specs.
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AFAIK it's always extra labour cost that makes a BK pickup more expensive than the regular BK models, like camo finish or double row of screws with metal cover etc.
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The miracle man is the closest BKP has to the dimebucker, just to clear that out. If you want another hot pup, and ceramic, the cold sweat might be the one.
But as me, and many others here on the forum, state. Is that youll ALWAYS be satified with any of the BKP`s, its just that some of the pickups are wound to suit the vicinity of a genre.
I think Tim even plays some of his ozzy stuff with a pair of mules, and theyre nearly half of the dimebucker`s resistance.
Whatever you might choose, you can tweak the amp to your likings. But youll be more satisfied with a BKP, you have my word.
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Yeah, I found the DC resistance doesnt mean too much, my Mules have a lower resistance than my SD Custom Custom in my strat (sounds cr@p compared to bk!) but the Mule sounds much more powerful, I guess its because of the clearness of the sound or something, I dunno, its just awesome :D
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My MM has an awesome amount of harmonics, nearly more than my EMG 81 which I thought was the best as far as harmonics go. Its got alot more bass than the DB and I think is around the same output so no worries there. Also I find it very smooth and the the treble doesn't seem scrattchy or fizzy at all -and I have it in an all-maple guitar!
I think that you will find custom wound PU's the same price as they are nearly all wound on order.
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Thanks for the help guys.
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So what are you getting??
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I figure once I get the money I'll get the Miracle Man and get it tweeked a little. I figured at the end of the day if it really is too different to what Im looking for I can always sell it on.
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I figure once I get the money I'll get the Miracle Man and get it tweeked a little. I figured at the end of the day if it really is too different to what Im looking for I can always sell it on.
AFAIK there's a 14-day exchange/money-back warranty for BK pickups, if they're standard models.
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I nail a dime tone with my Powerball + Miracle Man equipped strat...
Its a very hot, harmonically rich pickup. Its not as thin as the 500XL or Dimebucker, but its pretty good. It cuts almost as hard (which says alot) While still retaining a fuller, even tone. Personally I don't find it gets to harsh, whereas without proper knowlege the dimebucker can sound like a chainsaw or something :(
You could get dual adjustable polepieces (for extra tweaking) or have them custom wind you a pickup to make it thinner/treblier/hotter or something that you would like.. They work really closely with the customer to get a satisfactory product, so if you know what you want and how to explain it, they will help you get the tone you want.