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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Window-Licker on May 14, 2006, 06:51:03 PM
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Okie im looking to spend/blow some money towards the end of the year, im looking at either going for a soldano slo100 or a decatone, just want to know if anyone has played either or has heard their tones.
From what ive seen on the net theres not too much difference in price, a couple hundred or so, just wondering if theres much difference tonally?
Type of tone im after is mainly distortion and lots of, machinehead-pantera-chimaira, somewhere around there.
Setup would be: jackson slsmg with miracle man matched set > digitech whammy pedal > soldano amp > ibanez 4x12 cab > isolation box > shure sm57-58 or ksm27-32 > pc with adobe audition 2
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just heard from ppl that soldano has awesome distortion and tone that nothing can beat it! however in my opinion, bogner shiva is the dream amp for me. no matter wut mic positions, effects you apply to it, it just sounds so in your face!!! tone tone and even more tone! steve vai used to use it for recording....(forgot) :roll:
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Ah damnit lol, looked at some bognors, visited their site, some nice tones, also had a look at some engl amps as someone is selling a fireball on these forums, they both look great and have some good reviews, theyre all getting on for about the same price, its just so difficult to choose, its a pitty theres nowhere near by where i can try the amps in person.
i mean, shelling out £1000-2000 or there abouts for all 3 makes top models is alot if the tone turns out to be cr@p with the gear you already have, tone of course is a very personal thing but all the great reviews just confuse me. :-(
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Check out Koch too www.koch-amps.com
I've got one and it's fuggin amazing!
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Depending on your power requirement why not have a look at the Cornford MK50 or the Hellcat.......
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Just make sure you dont get a Koch thats too big for your bedroom ;) yes.. pun intended.
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:D Soldano Are amazing...Great amps Tried an Slo100 out a few years back stunning sounds & more gain than you could use. :twisted:
Just couldn`t justify the money for it tho....Bloody expensive [ at the time not sure now ]
:D 8)
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I've owned both Hot Rod and SLO heads. Good dirty sound, but it's voiced high mid and not a load of bottom end thud, so it's hard to get the big grinding tones out of it. I liked it at thye time. Cut thru the mix great, but not a big sound. EQ did not drastically change the tone here. Clean channel on the SLO has shared eq, so dont look for shimmering cleans here. 5 out of 10 for cleans. A lot of built in design flaws which made it super noisy. Never got to record with this amp due to excess humming. Spent hundreds on it to quieten it down, but failed. FX loop is designed for rack gear line level. Putting pedals in the loop such as delays dont work. You can turn the level on the effect full up and barely hear it. Might have been market leaders in the early 90's, but so many amp manufacturers now make gear that suits modern players needs better, and cheaper.
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I agree with Andy- I had a mate with a Soldano and it was a noisy amp- he did not have it for long.
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Cheers for the feedback guys, to throw in another make, would you guys reccomend a mesa single recto? ive tried a mesa dual recto before which gave a nice sound and that was with my old cr@ppy guitar and before i had bareknuckles, i actually owned the amp but didnt get to use it much so i sold it abit spur of the moment, i regret selling it, but at the time, i couldnt justify having it sat doing nothing, i used to do the old reduce the recto to a 50w head trick, removing tubes etc, didnt affect the tone, just made it easier to push/crank it.
The single recto being cheaper, could be an option, just dont know if it (again) gives the same tone as the dual.
I really need to do alot of reading on these different makes you guys are showing me lol, but thankyou.
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^ i think the major problem is, if you can afford an SLO, you can near enough afford anything... and that means a lot more choice and decisions (is it worth £2500 when i can get a good amp for £1000?) etc....
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Hah, I had a Single rec too. I used this amp for recording and live work for over 2 years. Thats a long time for me to own anything...lol. It was sweeter in tone than the full blown recto. A friend of mine owns the Rectoverb 50 combo. That sounds great too. Pick one up from ebay in the states and run it on a stepdown transformer. Save you big £££'s. Better value and more versatile than a Soldano imo. My new current amp is an Engl Savage 120. This is a seriously smoking amp too, and mega versatile. My personal fave to date.
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ooer took a look at the engl savage, some great reviews, looks great and the price doesnt seem bad at all, what did you pay? and what would you consider reasonable though?
Ive seen it for $2199, step down converter would be about £80 or there abouts i think.
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My Savage was part of a deal, so cant really give you a price on that. It's a UK spec, and although they have gone up, I think the street price is around £1500.
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If you have that much to spend on an amp, make sure you try a Custom Audio Amplification head. It's co-designed by Bob Bradshaw and John Suhr and has an impressive user list too.
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If you want a Machine Head tone go for a customised 5150. I know there is a guy in New York who customises them and ships them worldwide (can't remember his name tho :roll: ).
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AFAIK the Avenger is indeed keeping the good aspects of the SLO tone but adding that lacking bottom end to make it sound big. There is a resonance control added that is the major difference.
Also, the Avenger is single channel design, but who uses the clean channel on an SLO anyway :)
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True, but there's no fx loop if ya need one.
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http://www.voodooamps.com/standardmods-peavey.html
had a look around is it those guys you were thinking of? voodoo amps, the sample clips on the site sound pretty dodgily played and recorded, hard to judge the tone really.
Im thinking its looking like being an engl atm, not buying till october/november time, so you guys have plenty of time to sway me lol :-P thanks alot for all the input its greatly appreciated.
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http://www.voodooamps.com/standardmods-peavey.html
Before you send anything to them, you should see this...
http://www.frankencat.com/voodoo
Most people seem to be very happy with their mods tonewise. But if you aren't or a part ever dies, it's cheaper to replace the whole amp than fix their mess! I thought about it, but after seeing that black epoxy there is no way I'd ever let them touch one of my amps. Granted, it's to protect the design of it, but it's also at the same time destroying your amp.
As for boutique amps... Soldano, Bogner, etc. they are nice, but not nice enough to justify the price tag on any of them to me. I could almost justify it with Soldano or a Bad Cat and a year ago even more so, but while I can get old Marshalls, and sometimes old hotrodded Marshalls for a fraction of the price, that's a no-brainer. I might be able to justify a Roccaforte as I am a huge fan of the older Marshalls.....
For what you want a Peavey XXX may do, or possibly a Mesa (a lot of people who play similiar types of music go for dual or triple rectifiers which are my least favorite Mesas, I'd sacrifice a little bit of distortion and go with a Nomad myself). I greatly dislike the 5150/6505s... lot of distortion but absolutely no balls at all, but other than that, they've been doing a lot of stuff right lately.
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Played the CAE100 and found it very boring.
The Soldano was smack in ya face, but too trebly for my taste, maybe should have used the matching cab.
To me the real alternatives were Bogner Shiva or XTC Classic, Diezel VH4.
I have not played a Splawn yet, as they are nowhere for testing in Europe. Egnater MOD100 sounds interesting and might be a good alternative.
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Didn't EVH use a SLO after the Marshall and then used that as a basis for the 5150 design?
AFAIK Vai used Bogner Extacies rather than Shivas. What about H&K or ENGL?
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^ this is solely personal preference, but I think H&K are way too dear for what they are... the triamp's nice, but it doesn't nail the modern tones well enough (as it claims) and for its price, you can get amps that will (and be versatile too...)
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From what I gather Slodano's sound amazing, Vai used one to record 'Passion and Warfare' But that was an older Soldano SLO100. Personally I think you should go for the Mesa Boogie Dual ReCtiFieR cos it's the ultimate modern rock/metal amp, but it is agressive sounding! the SLO would be more smooth sounding. I cant afford a stack amp, dunno if I can even justify needing one???
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My ROV Mesa is awesome.
Enough headroom (although 50w) and MASSIVE sound.
Although a single recto it has the 5 modes and is easy to get great tones from.
I thought I would use 'modern' alot but for that old school Hetfield sound I love the 'tamer' LOL 'vintage' mode is MORE than enough, 'modern' is just INSANE.
In contrast my ENGL screamer half stack has bucket loads of gain and headroom too.
To be honest it horses for courses.
I prefer my Mesa as it just sounds more organic/alive (if that makes sense), but for sheer 'in ya face' brutality the ENGL wins.
ENGL's excel at metal +
Mesa has more diversity and clarity yet still acheiving the metal sound. Kinda depends somewhat on how 'focussed' ya wanna be on one genre of music I guess.
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ReCtiFieR cos it's the ultimate modern rock/metal amp, but it is agressive sounding! the SLO would be more smooth sounding. I cant afford a stack amp, dunno if I can even justify needing one???
Disagree. The SLO is so much in your face, I would call it more agressive than the Rectifier. I would rather say, Rectifier is darker voiced with more low end growl, SLO brighter with more mid range punch.
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Soldano's are Hum antenna's. They are so noisy!! Good tone tho. Just not worth the $$$. I had one!
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If you've got serious cash then you gotta be checking out...
* Bogner Ecstacy and Uberschall
* VHT Pitbull Ultra Lead
* Diesel VH4 and Herbert
* Krank Krankenstein
* Randall T2 (so shoot me, I like Randall tranny gear, heh)
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I think I would save a few bucks and go with an ENGL Powerball myself over a Soldano or Bogner if I wanted a killer new amp.
If I was ever going to spend that much on a new amp, I would take a serious look at Roccaforte (different bag though but you can't substite a new Marshall reissue for one).
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ENGL invader maybe? its the new model and it has every type of gain you can imagine!
My Fireball was AWESOME so perhaps something like that for gain and a 2nd amp for cleans? And a decent cab.
I agree with the 'why spend £2k when £600 does it just aswell' type argument.
Sure its NICE to have a Boogle Cronk Uber Expenso Boutique 9000 model with 10 channels and 7 eqs, but if all you need is a kick ass <soundhere> and you will only use 1 or 2 channels then why bother?
You'll have a hard time selling it on if you have to, never be able to get your money back (as if its gonna be ebayed for anything good? and you can only really trade UPWARDS).. and will you be happy gigging it? Will you spend more time messing with channels and post\pre bright depth ultra classic switches than playing? <--- None of that appeals to me (its hard enough selling 'normal' priced gear these days)
If i had that kind of money, id buy myself a Fireball and decent cab again and a line6 PODxt for clean sounds and rig it all up with decent tubes and cables, then keep the change ;)
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I've got regular access to an ENGL Powerball, I've got an ENGL Screamer 50, JCM800 and Carlton Camel..
and unfortunatly i wouldnt say the Powerball was in the same league as something like say the XTC Classic, but it's a damn good amp for the money I dont think anything else in it's price range is as good.. and it's better than any of that Boogie cr@p..
ooh and Passion and Warfare was recorded on various marshalls, but mainly a JCM900 with a Boss SD1.. NOT A DS1 which he started using later.
Just about everything on Alien Love Secrets was recorded with an Ecstacy 101B.. but theres all sorts on there not just that amp..
And yes the 5150 is based on the SLO100 and believe it or not the Dual Recto isnt far away from the SLO100's design.. although sonically very different.
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From what I gather Slodano's sound amazing, Vai used one to record 'Passion and Warfare' But that was an older Soldano SLO100. Personally I think you should go for the Mesa Boogie Dual ReCtiFieR cos it's the ultimate modern rock/metal amp, but it is agressive sounding! the SLO would be more smooth sounding. I cant afford a stack amp, dunno if I can even justify needing one???
Passion and Warfare was recorded almost exclusively on a 1971 Lee Jackson modded Marshall and maybe his backup, another Lee Jackson modded Marshall but it's a JCM 800. If he used a Soldano on P&W, it was very sparingly.
Sex and Religion was a few different amps, probably the Lee Jackson modded Marshall but a lot of the Marshalls on that album were JCM 900s. Alien Love Secrets and Fire Garden were recorded again with the Lee Jackson Marshall and some Mesas and Fenders thrown into the mix.
Fire Garden was my fav. Vai tone. His tone was massive on that album.
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I've got regular access to an ENGL Powerball, I've got an ENGL Screamer 50, JCM800 and Carlton Camel..
and unfortunatly i wouldnt say the Powerball was in the same league as something like say the XTC Classic, but it's a damn good amp for the money I dont think anything else in it's price range is as good.. and it's better than any of that Boogie cr@p..
ooh and Passion and Warfare was recorded on various marshalls, but mainly a JCM900 with a Boss SD1.. NOT A DS1 which he started using later.
Just about everything on Alien Love Secrets was recorded with an Ecstacy 101B.. but theres all sorts on there not just that amp..
And yes the 5150 is based on the SLO100 and believe it or not the Dual Recto isnt far away from the SLO100's design.. although sonically very different.
Yeah you know your shite well... however I disagree about Bogners being any better than an ENGL...
P&W was not yet on a JCM 900 though, it was recorded before they were out. That was a Lee Jackson modded Marshall (I'm not sure which one though, but what most people don't know is his primary Lee Jackson modded Marshall was a 1971 handwired and the JCM 800 was his backup).
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:oops: Posted in wrong spot
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If you're still after a Soldano, my mate has a 50w head on ebay right now for £700 (bargain). Hope this isn't considered spam :?
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P&W was a bogner XTC in pre-model stage.
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I greatly dislike the 5150/6505s... lot of distortion but absolutely no balls at all, but other than that, they've been doing a lot of stuff right lately.
Curious, my 5150 has **great big balls** and not nearly enough distortion :)
Yet.
Roo
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I've been lurking here and thought I'd bump this thread.
I've had my SLO since 1990 and it thrills me to this day.
Never a problem. Just bliss. I added the X99 preamp a few
years after that it's simple to use and sounds wonderful.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Jim%20guitar%20bass%20amps/sloandx99.jpg)
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I <3 SOLDANO
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Jim%20guitar%20bass%20amps/Soldano/soldanogearSept09.jpg)
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That's one hell of a rig.
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That's one hell of a rig.
Agreed
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My Avenger.
Last of the EL34 Avengers, maybe even the last EL34 Soldano. So mike soldano tells me.
This thing does NOT lack balls. the resonance control is used a lot though. couldnt imagine this amp without one.
Its possible to get a 2 channel hot rod with a depth mod though i think if you need two channels.
i have an email from mike soldano about 2 channel soldano amp options from the hot rods to the SLO.
Decatone would be too much for me. ...
but with the SLO, you do get the lifetime transferable warranty. who else gives you that?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/Image011.jpg?t=1252880703)
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i know its ugly but i have a vh4 and think that you should rle try one before buying anything. its the bees knees
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I love Soldano amps. The avenger is a personal favorite. Love the distortion. So does Gary Moore for that matter
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I was sponsored on Peavey gear, played a 5150 for 12 years! Got to try out a lot of rigs, soldano, bogner, diezel, engl, mesa....
I preferred my 5150 over everything I tried until I played a Krank Revolution! I was completely blown away and had to buy one.
Been very happy with it for the past three years.
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I <3 SOLDANO
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Jim%20guitar%20bass%20amps/Soldano/soldanogearSept09.jpg)
Wow that's a lot of Seattle Iron there. Great rig, I'm sure it does give you a lot of pleasure.
Maybe I should sell my other amps and get an SLO after all ...
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The Soldano /Caswell preamp with the motorised knobs is very nice!
I ignored buying one from a friend
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I was sponsored on Peavey gear, played a 5150 for 12 years! Got to try out a lot of rigs, soldano, bogner, diezel, engl, mesa.... I preferred my 5150 over everything I tried until I played a Krank Revolution! I was completely blown away and had to buy one. Been very happy with it for the past three years.
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I also have a 5150 combo. The Peavey and the Soldano SLO sound quite different to my ears.
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I was sponsored on Peavey gear, played a 5150 for 12 years! Got to try out a lot of rigs, soldano, bogner, diezel, engl, mesa.... I preferred my 5150 over everything I tried until I played a Krank Revolution! I was completely blown away and had to buy one. Been very happy with it for the past three years.
I havea 5150 combo. It and the Soldano sound quite different to my ears.
i was gonna say something about this too.
i used a 6505 for a long time, but it hissed like a b*tch and i always ran with a noise suppressor and found certain things annoying. the eq a little unresponsive, the terrible clean channel, the fizzy distortion which is pretty much unusable when it gets cranked...
the Avenger i have sounds clear throught the range of gain, and i dont have a problem with noise at all, and i gave up using the noise suppressor. the Soldano is in a league of its above the 5150 for sure. from what ive heard id go Soldano, Bogner or Diezel over Krank.
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I borrowed a friend's Bogner 20th Anniv XTC for a week. Great amp but I prefer my Soldano SLO. Just a matter of tastes.
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Just a matter of tastes.
Agree.
I liked the Shiva cleans w/reverb but the dirt channel was not doing it for me at all. Hated rectumfriers all the way around.
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I <3 SOLDANO
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Jim%20guitar%20bass%20amps/Soldano/soldanogearSept09.jpg)
Cheers man, that is nice!
Im sorry I couldn't take reading all the posts of this thread. But, people who think Soldano amps are noisy, you have bad setups/rigs. I have had 2/3 of their amps, and played the rest. Even when they were cranked, they were still silent. Seriouslly, they are dead silent.
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I was sponsored on Peavey gear, played a 5150 for 12 years! Got to try out a lot of rigs, soldano, bogner, diezel, engl, mesa.... I preferred my 5150 over everything I tried until I played a Krank Revolution! I was completely blown away and had to buy one. Been very happy with it for the past three years.
I havea 5150 combo. It and the Soldano sound quite different to my ears.
I heard that the 5150 combos and heads were actually completely different amps!
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I was sponsored on Peavey gear, played a 5150 for 12 years! Got to try out a lot of rigs, soldano, bogner, diezel, engl, mesa.... I preferred my 5150 over everything I tried until I played a Krank Revolution! I was completely blown away and had to buy one. Been very happy with it for the past three years.
I havea 5150 combo. It and the Soldano sound quite different to my ears.
I heard that the 5150 combos and heads were actually completely different amps!
I dunno, i think there are differences but they are pretty much the same. I think I stumbled onto to stuff about both the head and combo when looking into adding the adjustable bias mod to my 6505. then again i might be wrong. was a while ago
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I tried out a Soldano and it was quiet as can be. A friend of mine described it as a Marshall without the noise. All the components are very high end so if it's that noisy there's a problem.
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A few capacitors and resisters, and you got a completely different tone in any amp. Its the design that makes people say they are similar. Honestly I have always thought of the 5150 as a knock off.
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A few capacitors and resisters, and you got a completely different tone in any amp. Its the design that makes people say they are similar. Honestly I have always thought of the 5150 as a knock off.
i read the other comment as 5150 heads being different to 5150 combos.
I guess a lot of amps are knock off's of other amps. you start seeing similarities once you start looking closely at schematics.
My Avenger sounds superbly marshall. especially as it has the EL34's rather than 6L6's. my first Avenger was a 6L6 amps, and I much prefer the EL34 version. wonder if KT88's would fit? mwahahah!
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A few capacitors and resisters, and you got a completely different tone in any amp. Its the design that makes people say they are similar. Honestly I have always thought of the 5150 as a knock off.
i read the other comment as 5150 heads being different to 5150 combos.
I guess a lot of amps are knock off's of other amps. you start seeing similarities once you start looking closely at schematics.
My Avenger sounds superbly marshall. especially as it has the EL34's rather than 6L6's. my first Avenger was a 6L6 amps, and I much prefer the EL34 version. wonder if KT88's would fit? mwahahah!
Well honestly, soldano first got big with gutting marshalls, and his original SLO designs were all built from old Bassman amps. The real funny part is a good majority of amps trace back to fender XD
Mesa boobie (forget the originators name) use to work for fender.
Marshall was originally a rip off fender. XD hilarious
But no one can deny that Soldanos are great amp.
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A few capacitors and resisters, and you got a completely different tone in any amp. Its the design that makes people say they are similar. Honestly I have always thought of the 5150 as a knock off.
i read the other comment as 5150 heads being different to 5150 combos.
I guess a lot of amps are knock off's of other amps. you start seeing similarities once you start looking closely at schematics.
y'all true. my originally bist up JCM800 is becoming something of a soldano clone.
My Avenger sounds superbly marshall. especially as it has the EL34's rather than 6L6's. my first Avenger was a 6L6 amps, and I much prefer the EL34 version. wonder if KT88's would fit? mwahahah!
Well honestly, soldano first got big with gutting marshalls, and his original SLO designs were all built from old Bassman amps. The real funny part is a good majority of amps trace back to fender XD
Mesa boobie (forget the originators name) use to work for fender.
Marshall was originally a rip off fender. XD hilarious
But no one can deny that Soldanos are great amp.
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Mesa boobie (forget the originators name) use to work for fender.
Randall Smith
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Just a little FYI for all the Soldano aficionados who (like me) haven't deep enough pockets to spring for one......the Yamaha T50/T100 series of amps from the early 90s were designed by Mike Soldano. Amazingly good sounding amps to start with. If you send them to Soldano (or someone who knows how to do the mod) you can add the choke mod and a reverb mod and you have a fire breathing monster on your hands.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDqLGuEVVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTPUhr7tME&feature=related
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Just a little FYI for all the Soldano aficionados who (like me) haven't deep enough pockets to spring for one......the Yamaha T50/T100 series of amps from the early 90s were designed by Mike Soldano. Amazingly good sounding amps to start with. If you send them to Soldano (or someone who knows how to do the mod) you can add the choke mod and a reverb mod and you have a fire breathing monster on your hands.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDqLGuEVVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTPUhr7tME&feature=related
I thought those where pretty hard to come by?
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Well they can only be had used, so they do show up on eBay from time to time. But I suspect that since the word got out, people who were aware of this option have been snatching them up when the opportunity presents itself. Still, for pennies on the dollar (seen them listed at around $450) plus a couple of fairly simple modifications, to have something akin to an SLO......sounds like something possibly worth keeping an eye open for......
Mike Soldano talking about the Yamaha T100/T50 amps he helped design...
"Okay, here's the deal on the Yamaha T50 and T100 amps. I did design those amps for Yamaha back in the late '80s. And yes, I did get paid a "healthy sum" for my services (ha,ha,ha!). Design-wise, it's a very good amp - it wouldn't have done me any good to have my name associated with a piece of junk, now would it? Of course Yamaha had certain design features that they wanted to see - but, for the most part, they left how the amp sounded up to me. Therefore, the gain structure, voicing, reverb, etc. are quite similar to what you'll find in my SOLDANO amps. I had nothing to do with the final physical design or production of those amps. Construction and quality-wise, the Yamahas were no SOLDANOs by any means, but they were still fairly well built units. I felt, at the time, they were a good value - they packed a lot of bang for the buck.
I should point out, however, that there are a few things that Yamaha did that I wasn't happy about on those amps. First, mainly as an effort to reduce costs, they eliminated the filter choke in the power supply and replaced it with a large power resistor. While this is quite a common and acceptable practice in low wattage amps or preamplifiers, I feel that in higher powered amps it hinders the amp's ability to deliver good, punchy low end at higher volumes. The reason for this is that the resistor causes the high voltage supply to drop, or "sag", during times of high demand (such as "chugging" on the low E string), whereas the choke doesn't. Fortunately, this problem is easily remedied by removing the resistor and wiring in a choke. Any competent tech can handle this job, or you can send the amp out to my shop and have us do it for you. The second thing I didn't like was the choice of speakers in the combo amps. Those amps were equipped with 100w Celestions, which I thought sounded very "stiff" and sterile. My last complaint with those amps is a change that was made to the reverb circuits after the amp went into production. They really screwed things up on that, and to this day I still don't know what the hell they were trying to do. All I know is that it made the reverb very weak and lifeless. I opposed the revision, but they went ahead and did it anyway. The early amps had my original design, and the late amps can be modified to get them back to that design."
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I've read that before. You can also find clones but I think people who build them tend to keep them.
My 800 is looking like a 50 watt avenger with a ppimv.
I have another new amp coming soon woo
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I have another new amp coming soon woo
Nice! what's it gonna be?
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tis a secret!!!!! MWHAHAH
not a bogner, soldano, or Diezel though
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uh comooooooooon, let us know pleeeeeeaaaaase?
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back when my band was last in germany, i found out a friend of mine in the US band we where doing the shows with had been approached by Sommatone. That was the first i'd heard of them and he said he'd tried out some amps and that they're amazing. So out the blue I just hit up Sommatone, said where I had heard about them and what my band has planned and has done, and I got offered one with a pretty large discount as a partial endorsement. It's being built for me now (a Sommatone Outlaw) with an orange finish. to match my Soldano and my orange jcm900 cab with black cloth.
Ive been chatting with Danny at sommatone for a while now asking him about the amp and all kinds of things. VERY cool company. I checked out what sound samples i could and talking to Danny about the circuit. Im going in without trying it, but I trust the opinion of my friend I mentioned earlier, so it should be cool.
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Damn, sounds sweet.
Do you still have the bogner as well?
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yeah i do.
i like it a lot, but it weighs a TONNE!
im tempting to have a go at boshing together something like a 50watt single channel uber.
schematics are hard to come by though... i guess i do have something i could take a look at!
it has some fancy inductor in the feedback loop i think. pretty different to a marshall.
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Thats a lot of amps :shock:
Im sure its not that heavy, my cabs about 70kg, so horrible taking it to shows that are upstairs. I was trying to get a 2nd one yesterday, my backs probably quite glad i missed out on it
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i dunno man its pretty beefy. not 70kgs. but for a head its a fair weight.
all the iron is on one side too, so it isnt balanced at all when you lift it using the handle.
amps are my thing. i love my LP Custom and i have my backup for that. I just dont get GAS for guitars anymore.
but I do fiddle still. tried a treble bleed mod and reversed it, added the TP6 stop tail to my LPC.
Amps are my thing i guess.
my 800 is sounding awesome. i just want to tweak it a bit more.
I might try and record a comparison between my Avenger and my modded JCM800.
HTH and Frank JPF helped me a lot!!.
Soldano's are wicked amps though. I love my Bogner and my Avenger for different reasons.
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Which bogner do you have again?
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uberschall blue rev
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Very nice, thats the only one I havnt had. Top choices for me are the Shiva, and xtc 100A. I think that was the one. But I always wanted to try the uber. Shiva has to be my current fav from them.
OH and please compare the Uberschall and the Avenger. I would be very curious to hear the difference.
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Very nice, thats the only one I havnt had. Top choices for me are the Shiva, and xtc 100A. I think that was the one. But I always wanted to try the uber. Shiva has to be my current fav from them.
OH and please compare the Uberschall and the Avenger. I would be very curious to hear the difference.
Hmmm its pretty different. The uber a bigger bass response without a depth control but it still sounds bright. It's character changes at volume,for the better, and the avenger doesn't have the mid sweep control that the uber presence functions as.
The avenger sounds a bit Marshall still and uses a cold biased ecc83 triode stage which is q signature of the slo and its in a bunch of amps but not the uber, which may surprise some.
They are different beasts
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my 800 is sounding awesome. i just want to tweak it a bit more.
I might try and record a comparison between my Avenger and my modded JCM800.
Man those are my two very favorite amps Jcm 800 is numero uno for me. I also dig the Orange Rockerverb
Out of curiosity what kind of mods do you have?
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my 800 has an extra preamp gain stage and the preamp is reconfigured to be very similar to the SLO.
the power stage is the same sort of thing, plus i used the older JCM800 2205 schematic and copied the PPIMV control out of that into mine. So i kind of have a mot rodded JCM 800 2205 with a PPIMV, which is like a 50 watt Avenger.
I also Added a depth control using a schematic sent to me by Bill @ soldano, and removed the reverb circuit.