Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: indysmith on May 23, 2006, 05:54:32 PM
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Basically... Here's the clips - i think they speak for themselves.
clean/bypassed,
50% gain+tone+level,
100% gain+tone and 50% level
Behringer: http://harridantheband.com/odtest/behringer1.mp3
Maxon: http://harridantheband.com/odtest/maxon1.mp3
50% gain+tone+level,
100% gain+tone and 50% level,
clean/bypassed
Behringer: http://harridantheband.com/odtest/behringer2.mp3
Maxon: http://harridantheband.com/odtest/maxon2.mp3
The quality is pretty shitety but clearly the £14 Behringer beats the £90 Maxon hands-down... Does this disturb anybody else? :?
P.S. Thanks for the clips Todge...
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I just ordered the TO800, I hope it sounds better than the TS7 I had :lol:
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OD-9 and Tubescreamers sound best into an already cooking/overdriven amp rather than a completetly clean one...
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Yeah, I was planning on using it as either a solo boost or on my amps semi clean so we'll see how it goes.
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to be honest i dont see a major difference between the two... i certainly cant tell which ones 'better'.... in fact if any i would actually say i prefer the Maxon... :?
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Are you serious??! Listen to the Behringer clip 1 at around 57 seconds, and then the Maxon clip 1 around the same time.. theres a huge difference! The Behringer sounds so much better!
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nope.... DIFFERENT.. yes... 'better'? no...
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Maxon has more midrange, which makes it great for solo boosts.
The Behringer has a clearer tone which gives a "better" general sound, but it won't be so hot as a solo boost I don't think.
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Actually Twinfan I think the Behringer has more mid! The B. seems tighter and more focussed without much bass, where the Maxon is kinda flabby and more bassy. The B. actually sounds more like a typical tubescreamer to me!!
Totally subjective which one is better really, I've always preferred a looser sound so in that respect I prefer the Maxon. The B. does sound more refined though, the opposite of what you'd expect!
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Maybe I'm just tired and missing something here, but the clean/bypassed clips sound so different that any comparison of effects is nearly useless. I don't think that the Maxon would be introducing such a huge level of tone-suck just by being in the signal chain and turned off, because they're a true-bypass pedal. So the EQ settings must be different or something and that's why the tone is so disparate.
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I agree....the two bypassed should sound identical, but they don't.......also, the maxon has much more bass, which can be handy in certain situations....
What amp is this going into, and how loud is it being played?
And I personally prefer the Maxon.....the behringer sounds more like a cheap distortion pedal.....very DS-1 esque.
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They are both straight into the soundcard apparently. Heres the thread I found them in - http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1254006&highlight=maxon
The Maxon does sound fuller but its so muddy in that clip!
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Well, to me also the Maxon sounds better, richer with more harmonics and a little more edge. The behringer sounds compressed to me ...
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I thought the Maxon won on the first example - but given the Behringer is about £22 and the Maxon £95 the Behringer performed well for the cash difference.
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So the EQ settings must be different or something and that's why the tone is so disparate.
thats exactly what i said to tom!!! the sounds are SO different before the pedal is engaged that the same difference is carried over into the distorted tones...
glad someone else noticed this and its not just me
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IF you read the thread though, it was straight into the soundcard, ie no EQ or anything.. Anyway my Behringer overdrive should be here tomorrow so if its any good I'll do a clip... if not I'm sending it back :P
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look you spanner... straight into the soundcard means nothing... you still have to have an interface/program to record with... which can mean extra settings....
or at least i think you do :P
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Yeah you can, but the guy says its the same setup etc just changed the pedals. And why would he change the EQ to make his Maxon sound shiteter than the Behringer? The clearer bypass is to do with the buffer in the Behringer pedal apparently..
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maybe he didnt do it deliberately, just thought they were at a similar sound but werent... i dunno..
but they sound VERY DIFFERENT before the pedals are engaged... so if there is something different in the bypasses then the maxon one must be shite... which cant be right cause like mark said its true bypass right?
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Yeah it is TB.. but the Behringer has buffered which makes it match the impedance of the socket he was plugged into or something.. I dunno but it does sound so much clearer and bright.
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Well I've just listened to the bypassed sounds, and the type of difference between them is just like the difference between the sounds when they're switched on... :idea:
I can't see the B. being buffered as accounting for that difference unless the guy's got 2 miles of cable between the pedal and the amp.
Foul play, must be.
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hmm yeah true I just listened to em again.. I know what you mean. Whats weirder though is that they are both on neck pickup, but the Behringer sounds like its on a bridge pickup :?
I still dont understand why he'd make the Maxon sound shite like it does though.. it just makes me feel sorry for him that he spent 4x as much money on that pedal that sounds worse :lol:
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haha!
yer well SOMETHING isnt right... like Underground dude said, that surely cant be the bypass unless there was something ridiculous going on....
and yer it sounds like bridge--->neck pup, like i said about my coil tap tom.... thats what the difference sounds like...
hmmm
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Well.. the TO800 arrived today, it sounds pretty damn good, especially for £20! Loads more usable gain than the TS7 I had, and it doesnt sound as muddy or bland either. I think its gonna stay on my board. It does have slight tone suckage, a bit less presence maybe but I cant complain for the price, I could make a small true bypass box for it sometime though I guess.
I'm doing a recording for indy later anyway so I'll post it up here :)