Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum

Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: CaffeineJunkie on May 24, 2006, 08:29:52 PM

Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 24, 2006, 08:29:52 PM
OK, so i've decided which guitar I want to buy:

Epiphone Jorma Kaukonen Signature Riviera:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=10518

But, what I'm wondering is what Cold Sweats would sound like in an archtop guitar???

Cheers

CJ
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: Johnny Mac on May 24, 2006, 09:59:35 PM
Not sure but to my mind they might not work so well. It seems like a stormy monday or mule for a semi. Someone will chip in though.
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: PhilKing on May 24, 2006, 10:12:30 PM
Tim always says lower output for semi's, this lets you hear the tone of the guitar.  I am putting a Riff-Raff and Stormy Monday into my 335.
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: rahnooo on May 24, 2006, 10:28:23 PM
See I quite fancy Mississippi Queens in a semi. But I'm not too sure how it would compare to the sound in my head. Could pay off, could be a disaster...

*Rahnooo*
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: jt on May 24, 2006, 10:29:10 PM
:D Sorry dude i can`t see why you`d want to put high gainy type P/U`s in a semi acoustic ?

 :D  8)
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 24, 2006, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: jt
:D Sorry dude i can`t see why you`d want to put high gainy type P/U`s in a semi acoustic ?

 :D  8)


Just to see what it would sound like, I'm mad, it's a habit

I probs won't though, might go for the riff raffs like PhilKing.

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See I quite fancy Mississippi Queens in a semi. But I'm not too sure how it would compare to the sound in my head. Could pay off, could be a disaster...


It would probably sound amazing actually, Nick Valensi has HB-sized P94s in his Riviera so...

http://www.epiphone.com/elitist/nick.htm
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: Crazy_Joe on May 24, 2006, 11:08:50 PM
How much are Epiphone Elitist guitars, where can you get them from?
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: Searcher on May 24, 2006, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: CaffeineJunkie
Quote from: jt
:D Sorry dude i can`t see why you`d want to put high gainy type P/U`s in a semi acoustic ?

 :D  8)


Just to see what it would sound like, I'm mad, it's a habit


I'm just supposing here, but I would assume that a high-gain pickup in a hollowbody would lead to feedback problems.
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: indysmith on May 25, 2006, 12:03:00 AM
Quote from: Searcher
Quote from: CaffeineJunkie
Quote from: jt
:D Sorry dude i can`t see why you`d want to put high gainy type P/U`s in a semi acoustic ?

 :D  8)


Just to see what it would sound like, I'm mad, it's a habit


I'm just supposing here, but I would assume that a high-gain pickup in a hollowbody would lead to feedback problems.

I was thinking the same. Someone on here a while was having feedback problems when they put some high output bucker's in their chambered body LP DC Std, so i can only imagine the squeal that would comeout of that with cold sweats... Mule and a MQ would definately be my choice!
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: Elliot on May 25, 2006, 09:10:15 AM
Why don't you put a MQ in the neck and a Stormy Mondayor Mule in the bridge - that way you get the best of both worlds - the combo balances really well.

As I understand it Most semi players with P90s play the neck P90 anyway - so you would get a classic sound.
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 25, 2006, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: Elliot
Why don't you put a MQ in the neck and a Stormy Mondayor Mule in the bridge - that way you get the best of both worlds - the combo balances really well.

As I understand it Most semi players with P90s play the neck P90 anyway - so you would get a classic sound.


I already have a MQ in the neck of my Les Paul, so I wanted different pickups in this guitar, so i am now looking at a calibrated Mule set, or Stormy Monday
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: jt on May 25, 2006, 04:20:44 PM
:D I can personnally recommend the Mules mine are great !!

Very versatile can handle anything & they have a lovely warm sound. There was a company that made guitars that got reviewed in Guitar Buyer & they had a semi loaded with Miracle Mens believe it or not. So it is possibe to put high gainy type H/B`s in a semi, but without hearing it & playing with it for a while i woud have thought it would have feed back like a bitch  :P

 :D  8)
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 25, 2006, 05:39:12 PM
cool, what is the difference in sound between the mules and the stormy mondays??
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: indysmith on May 25, 2006, 05:40:06 PM
mules are similar, but with a kick in the ass. A bit higher output and a bit more bite and versatility
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 25, 2006, 05:43:09 PM
wkd, which magnet would be best then? i know that Vs are the most aggressive ( i think ) and that Slash uses IIs because they are the smoothest ( again, i think ) would IIIs or IVs be a good compromise, or maybe both, IV in the bridge and III or II in the neck???? i don't know, i'm just waffling atm
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 25, 2006, 09:08:45 PM
To be fair - I would go for the Stormy Mondays rather than the mules unless you actually want that "fuller" 1958 Les paul vibe.

The Stormy's are a little more open and transparent and can turn their hand to more styles of music than the mule simply because they do the cleaner stuff more faithfully whereas the Mule whilst still sounding fab is a little more full bodied.
The Stormy Mondays are based on an early 1960s wind - kind of where Gibson pulled back on the winding specs from what they had put in the late 50s LPs. these were also the pickus that were going into the early 335s etc.

Out of interest we did put some Cold Sweats in a chambered PRS type guitar that we built for JT and they turned out to be a bit too full on . JT swapped them out for some mules and has had a lot of fun ever since.
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on May 25, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
so what would you recommend for the magnets??
Title: Cold Sweats
Post by: jt on May 25, 2006, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

Out of interest we did put some Cold Sweats in a chambered PRS type guitar that we built for JT and they turned out to be a bit too full on . JT swapped them out for some mules and has had a lot of fun ever since.


 :D    :twisted:

If we had a headbangin` icon.........

By the way Johnathon the "Preacher" is settleing in nicely.

 :D  8)