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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: I_cant_play on May 26, 2006, 07:14:33 AM
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My favourite guitarist Vlatko Stefanovski just came to vancouver and I saw him play live at a pretty small venue. It was first come first serve with seats so I sat front row centre (It's kinda cool liking things not many know about )
He played with another guitarist called Miroslav Tadic who is also absolutely terrific. It was an all acoustic concert and my god was it amazing. They are not well known in North America but I would urge you to check them out, especially if like me, you like to try something different every once in a while. They are from the balkans so their music has heavy macedonian folk influence.
here's a sample of the kinda stuff they play...in my opinion..they have amazing technique but also write beautifully and do not just play fast runs to show off
http://www.topproduction.com/vlatkomiroslav.php#
check out jovano jovanke
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yea, those guys can sure play!
i met vlatko a couple of times before, top dude. funny guy, realy down to earth.
he's pretty much a regular over here.
saw him play at a festival here a couple of years ago and he said, i know most of you guys would rather see me on stage with a wall of marshalls behind me, but today we're doing some acoustic stuff. the gig lasted about two and a half hours and there was everything on it, from acoustic heavy metal to etno type of stuff.
vlatko used to teach in san francisco for a couple of years. i dont know if its true, but rumour has it that he was satrianis teacher
last year he played with a college band/orchestra and it was a BLAST! on one of the bands guitarist blog type of thing, he said that they had guitar duels at practices and he pretty much played circles around them hehe and those guitarists aint half bad on their own.
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Gah! I just missed 'em here. Ah well. Thanks for the link. Maybe I'll see them next time.
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yeah they're just amazing. I got a photo with Tadic but was not able to get one with vlatko. he was too busy talking to people from the local macedonian community :D
He's probably the only artist that I listen to right now that I'm actually looking forward to his next release. Led Zeppelin's gone, GnR are gone, Metallica sucks......that concert was just unbelievable inspiring..
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Hmm I'm not keen on jovano jovanke. its not very...musical. why do people keep clapping at random intervals? I couldn't dance to it. By god i tried. This stuff sucks. I'm sure it's impressive live, but in my room i'm just bored. Oh it's started to sound more like music now. Still bored though. I just can't relate to this; call me an ignorant youngster or whatever but its lame. Back to good ol' Led Zep, G'n'R and Metallica for me then. If i knew where the hell the balkans were, or anything about their culture i'm sure it'd mean something more...
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Hmm I'm not keen on jovano jovanke. its not very...musical. why do people keep clapping at random intervals? I couldn't dance to it. By god i tried. This stuff sucks. I'm sure it's impressive live, but in my room i'm just bored. Oh it's started to sound more like music now. Still bored though. I just can't relate to this; call me an ignorant youngster or whatever but its lame. Back to good ol' Led Zep, G'n'R and Metallica for me then. If i knew where the hell the balkans were, or anything about their culture i'm sure it'd mean something more...
From this day forth let it be known that any music, not confined to the narrow parameters of the mind of the one known as "indysmith", shall hereafter be labelled as "lame" and as such be unlistenable. Any odd time signatures, exotic scales, "expensive" chords and other such creativity have been known to cause, the one known as "indysmith", headaches, and therefore shall not be tolerated. Pentatonic and major scales will be allowed, but nothing too fancy like chromatics please confine yourself to the tones of said scales, as well as major and minor chord progressions. The Central Scrutinizer thanks you for your time and cooperation. :wink:
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That's bit harsh...Play nice boys...
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Bird, I think I love you.
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Bird, I think I love you.
:lol:
I'm flattered
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here's a sample of the kinda stuff they play...in my opinion..they have amazing technique but also write beautifully and do not just play fast runs to show off
http://www.topproduction.com/vlatkomiroslav.php#
check out jovano jovanke
Just checked these guys out (never heard of them before). They're friggin' awesome, and like you say amazing technique but very tuneful too.
Muttley
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Hmm I'm not keen on jovano jovanke. its not very...musical. why do people keep clapping at random intervals? I couldn't dance to it. By god i tried. This stuff sucks. I'm sure it's impressive live, but in my room i'm just bored. Oh it's started to sound more like music now. Still bored though. I just can't relate to this; call me an ignorant youngster or whatever but its lame. Back to good ol' Led Zep, G'n'R and Metallica for me then. If i knew where the hell the balkans were, or anything about their culture i'm sure it'd mean something more...
From this day forth let it be known that any music, not confined to the narrow parameters of the mind of the one known as "indysmith", shall hereafter be labelled as "lame" and as such be unlistenable. Any odd time signatures, exotic scales, "expensive" chords and other such creativity have been known to cause, the one known as "indysmith", headaches, and therefore shall not be tolerated. Pentatonic and major scales will be allowed, but nothing too fancy like chromatics please confine yourself to the tones of said scales, as well as major and minor chord progressions. The Central Scrutinizer thanks you for your time and cooperation. :wink:
dude.... have a beer on me... believe me, if i could buy you one.. i would...
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Thanks :)
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This is great stuff man! Thanks for the tip!
I'll admit, I glossed over this thread initially as I presumed from the title it would just be another shred-heavy latex lover, but I'm more than happy to say I was wrong!
This is great, enjoying it a whole lot.
Reminds me ever so slightly of Shakti, but I think I am just picking up on the acoustic guitars, rhythms and odd harmony.
Indy, surely you know something about the Balkans? Like, the fact that there have been numerous conflicts over there throughout most of our lives? This music is cool IMO, precisely because it isn't Guns N Roses or whoever.
Look at the new bands that have come out that sound just like 80's bands - very few (none, really) have achieved anywhere near the success of their 80's idols. Music should be progressive, it should bring in influence from anywhere and everywhere - be that Birmingham or the Balkans - simply because if it has a note, or even just a rhythm, then it is music.
After all, Indy, you were arguing against the genre-classification of music a while back, weren't you? This music kind of reminds me of one brilliant day I had a while ago. In the mid-afternoon, I went to see a free-jazz concert; sure, the music had no obvious pulse, but if you really absorbed yourself in the music you could find your own rhythm.
Anyway, later that evening, I went to see Vai play. I quite like Vai. But the music that moved me the most that day was that of an unknown freejazz pianist, called Irene Schweizer. She's totally unknown; she doesn't even really come up on google.
My point (yes, there is one) is that music is music. Whether it comes from the 70's or the 1930's; whatever instrument plays it; whatever the production values are - music, in my opinion, is just music. So be willing to challenge yourself mate, you might find some real gems out there! :D
(not having a go btw, just rambling!)
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If it ain't Phil Collins, I ain't listening...
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If it ain't Phil Collins, I ain't listening...
LMAO
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If it ain't Phil Collins, I ain't listening...
HIGH 5!
It's funny how this whole forum has waged war upon just because i don't like some dodgy boring balkan music. I'm not completely closed-minded in my love for the 80's rawk scene! i like a lot of music, but most of this just doesn't float my boat. not even a little. sorry.
I listened thru all the tracks in that playlist thing. I tried to like it. It all sounds the same, apart from Gajdarsko Oro, which i actually quite like - it has some life to it, and kind of reminds me of pirate music. pirate music is always cool 8) i can even dance to bits of it!
As for challenging myself; why? if i like it i like it, if i don't i don't - i'm bored of trying to like stuff i don't. this sucks.
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It's cool that you don't like it, but by calling it 'some dodgy balkan music' etc it comes across that you were already prejudiced against such a type of music.
Remember, Vai himself stated the importance of Bulgarian folk music for his song 'Freak Show Excess'. :)
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It's cool that you don't like it, but by calling it 'some dodgy balkan music' etc it comes across that you were already prejudiced against such a type of music.
Remember, Vai himself stated the importance of Bulgarian folk music for his song 'Freak Show Excess'. :)
No, i wasn't prejudiced; i'd never heard of balkan music before. i only realised it was dodgy after i listened to it :P
Vai sucks.
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Stating that anyone/band you don't personally like either sucks, is boring or cannot play/is talentless is the thing that gets you into trouble.
I was brought up that if you have nothing nice to say then DON'T say anything, just a tip.
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Stating that anyone/band you don't personally like either sucks, is boring or cannot play/is talentless is the thing that gets you into trouble.
I was brought up that if you have nothing nice to say then DON'T say anything, just a tip.
i'm not in trouble, i'm having fun.
If people only ever said 'nice' things and pointed out the positives of everything in discussions, don't you think the world would be inbalanced, boring, tame, and just generally balkan?
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It's funny how this whole forum has waged war upon me . . . pirate music is always cool 8) i can even dance to bits of it!
Ah c'mon, it hasn't been the whole forum.
Anyways, what's this fixation with dancing? What's happened to appreciating music by listening to it?
I can understand that you want something that moves you emotionally, or that you can connect to in a visceral sense, but why does it have to make you wanna shake your booty?
Be careful, young man, you're heading down a terrible path that could end with you liking hip hop. I see DJ-ing in your future if you don't stop that nonsense right now.
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Quite agree, but some statements you make actually just make you look stupid. Only trying to help. Opinions are GREAT, statements (when you obviously have NO experience in the context) are NOT.
I will finish with that as am NOT in the mood for any kind of argument.
I read your posts at times and scratch my head a laff.
I just suggest if you would like to be taken a little more seriously that you listen and read more and not making sweeping statements which you cannot back up.
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It's funny how this whole forum has waged war upon me . . . pirate music is always cool 8) i can even dance to bits of it!
Ah c'mon, it hasn't been the whole forum.
Anyways, what's this fixation with dancing? What's happened to appreciating music by listening to it?
I can understand that you want something that moves you emotionally, or that you can connect to in a visceral sense, but why does it have to make you wanna shake your booty?
Be careful, young man, you're heading down a terrible path that could end with you liking hip hop. I see DJ-ing in your future if you don't stop that nonsense right now.
Haha the dancing thing was just a joke dude; but seriously a good song that moves yu emotionally and physically is better than a good song that just moves yu emotionally right?... i think. I like to be able to move to music whatever, i'm a big fan of straight-ahead 4:4 rhythm. Go on; turn up your noses
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Quite agree, but some statements you make actually just make you look stupid. Only trying to help. Opinions are GREAT, statements (when you obviously have NO experience in the context) are NOT.
I will finish with that as am NOT in the mood for any kind of argument.
I read your posts at times and scratch my head a laff.
I just suggest if you would like to be taken a little more seriously that you listen and read more and not making sweeping statements which you cannot back up.
i don't want to be taken seriously. i'm not even wrinkly with a porsche yet. any statement i make is just an opinion. whats the difference? hence the signature.
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The difference, (obviously your schooling is'nt up to much so would not hold out on the Porsche) is "I think.........." or "In my opinion........." is WAY different than "that is............." or "I know.............".
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but seriously a good song that moves yu emotionally and physically is better than a good song that just moves yu emotionally right?
Nah, not IMO. Besides, "better" is such a nebulous term when it comes to personal taste.
Look, I'm all in favour of 4/4 rock. But slow songs can be more powerful than ones with a good beat.
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but seriously a good song that moves yu emotionally and physically is better than a good song that just moves yu emotionally right?
Nah, not IMO. Besides, "better" is such a nebulous term when it comes to personal taste.
Look, I'm all in favour of 4/4 rock. But slow songs can be more powerful than ones with a good beat.
what about slow powerful ones with a good beat? Power Ballads rule!
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The difference, (obviously your schooling is'nt up to much so would not hold out on the Porsche) is "I think.........." or "In my opinion........." is WAY different than "that is............." or "I know.............".
Don't like porsche's anyways. I'm after a Jeep. School's pretty Balkan too. Guys read the signature.
In My Humble Funking Opinion.
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Don't like porsche's anyways. I'm after a Jeep. School's pretty Balkan too. Guys read the signature.
In My Humble Funking Opinion.
School is over-rated anyhow.
I think it's the 'humble' part that some people are taking issue with. Heh. A sig doesn't make up for the wording of a post.
But anyways. :)
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^ what E said
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i've listened through his website selection...
most of it sucks. real bad. i dont think it represents what stefanovski is able to do, but its his choice of music at the time.
though let me tell you. live and with just 2 acoustics, nothing else, it sounds completely diferent.
and vai sucks? you got no idea how wrong you are
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wow..reading this thread makes me realize how different my tastes are. for example, I can't listen to satriani or vai at all. stefanovski to me is a guitar god. I think there is some cr@ppy stuff on his site but have you heard Bistra Voda?? I think he's amazing on CD, not just live but ah well, each to his own. I'm still not over this electric, live version of bistra voda I got my hands on...just amazing. well anyway, I hope some of you enjoyed it and I didn't waste your time :)
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I really like it!
Plain old good musicianship IMO.....ie the end result is good music, not just good guitar playing!
I_can't_play, interestingly, I also can't listen to Vai or Satriani, at all, ever.
indysmith, fair play you don't like it, but you do appreciate that not all music is meant to make you want to dance right?! I mean what did people do when there was just classical music? I don't think they got bored!
Take opera as well - some people pay money to sit still for 3 hours and get sung at but they still enjoy it for what it is!
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I mean what did people do when there was just classical music?
Ballroom Danced?
Yeah i know that not all music is meant to be danced to, lol; the dancing thing was just a joke. i promise.