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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: crispsandwich on June 02, 2006, 05:28:12 PM

Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: crispsandwich on June 02, 2006, 05:28:12 PM
I bought a Behringer V-Tone GMX212 and it's the most hideous amp I've ever played through. Nothing like it's little tone monster sibling GM108. So I'm sending it back because the speakers crackle and boom. I made these 2 clips to re-enforce my points to the staff at the shop I'm sending it back to. I've put them on a DVD and stuck it in the box with the amp. This first clip shows how cr@p it sounds at mid-gain, which is where I play most of my stuff. Not smooth at all. Just listen to the harshness at 00:32 [Mad] .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw0IJerb8DM

This second clip is my Behringer overdrive pedal into my small shitety transistor amp. It sounds so much better to my ears. Not anywhere near as harsh as the Behringer and warmer. And I know I butcher Sweet Home Alabama at the end. I never learned that riff properly [Wink] .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpPxR_BfmXM

Anyway, the Behringer is going back. From now on, it's try before I buy EVERY time.

-Danny :)
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: _tom_ on June 02, 2006, 05:37:27 PM
Yes that is disgusting indeed.
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: Searcher on June 02, 2006, 05:38:56 PM
Well, there's no denying the crackle and tinny transistory-ness of the first clip, but I actually thought the sound was nicer in it otherwise.  The second clip sounded a lot like when you have a wah pedal set in one position and it boosts a narrow mid-heavy bunch of frequencies.  I wouldn't call it warmer; I'd say it's more muffled.  

In the first clip, did you start in the neck position and then switch to the bridge?  The neck position sounded quite ok, I thought.  The bridge was pretty lousy, but perhaps there's a better cure for that than just parting copmany with the amp altogether.

Sorry I'm not more sympathetic.  ;)
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: crispsandwich on June 02, 2006, 05:42:31 PM
The pickups are BKPs so it aint the guitar ;). The neck is a Trilogy suite and the bridge is a Nailbomb. The middle is a Mother's milk :).
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: Searcher on June 02, 2006, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah, I noted the pickups.  But still, it could be the guitar without it being the pickups.  Or it could be the EQing needs fiddling with, or any number of things.  Or the amp could suck.  ;)  But, like I said, I really think that the tone was better in the first clip.  Well, at first it was, but the bridge position was pretty brittle and yuck.  But I still think it sounded clearer and more open than in the second clip.

Have you played your guitar through any high-end amps?  If so, which ones and how did it sound then?
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: crispsandwich on June 02, 2006, 05:59:38 PM
There was crackle from the neck pickup too but it was hardly picked up by my cr@ppo camera :). They all make the amp crackle at mid/high gain. I use the bridge pickup a lot and no EQ adjustments make a difference. I've tried lowering the pickup, making it higher etc but it doesn't help. It just sounds brittle and horrible. I've tried this guitar through line 6 amps, through an Epiphone valve junior and a Marshall AVT50. I've also tried it through a Pod XT live and it sounded really, really good. So I'm pretty confident it isn't the pickups :).
Title: Behringer V-Tone -beware (clips inside).
Post by: Searcher on June 02, 2006, 06:05:57 PM
Well, it sounds like it is the amp then!  Fair enough.  You must have got a dodgy one.  They can't all be like that, surely!