Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on June 12, 2006, 04:20:53 PM
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Yeah, i changed my mind again but this time it is definate! And i'm getting this guitar as soon as i can.
Schecter C-1 Hellraiser
Set-Neck w/ Ultra Access /25.5”
Mahogany, Quilted Maple Top
3-pc. Mahogany/Rosewood
24 X-Jumbo
Abalone “Gothic Cross”
EMG active 81 / 85
Vol/Vol/Tone/3-Way
TonePros TOM w/ thru-body
Abalone
Grover
Black Chrome
Black Cherry (BCH)
(http://www.schecterguitars.com/imgs/c1_hell_bch.jpg)
(http://www.schecterguitars.com/imgs/c1_hell_blk.jpg)
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well - i'll just say what i suppose everyone else is thinking...(Due to Lack of replies)
Preferred the Dean mate.
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What's wrong with it, it is great!
Edit: It's the same specs basically, except this one seems even better.
Edit 2 - I'm also looking at the C-1 Blackjack, it's basically the same.
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What's wrong with it, it is great!
Edit: It's the same specs basically, except this one seems even better.
Very Similar specs, but i don't know - i just prefered the vibe of the dean - it looked classy, and very rawk. This looks more tacky with the abalone binding... I'm also sceptical about the quality of the guitar; if it's around the same price as the dean, you are probably paying most of that for the pickups..?
I won't speak for anyone else; they may all be loving the Schecter idea
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There is a plain black version which i have just posted which i think looks better, i'm really digging the Schecter though, i know the EMG's play a big part in the price but to be honest i didn't find the Dean that amazing, also i wasn't really fond of all that gold hardware, and with this guitar i can get Burnt Chrome pickups :D
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There is a plain black version which i have just posted which i think looks better, i'm really digging the Schecter though, i know the EMG's play a big part in the price but to be honest i didn't find the Dean that amazing, also i wasn't really fond of all that gold hardware, and with this guitar i can get Burnt Chrome pickups :D
yeah that looks a lot better to me 8) lets see what everyone else is thinking... :)
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I think it will really fit my playing style well though too, i've got a good feeling about this guitar.
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What's wrong with it, it is great!
Edit: It's the same specs basically, except this one seems even better.
Very Similar specs, but i don't know - i just prefered the vibe of the dean - it looked classy, and very rawk. This looks more tacky with the abalone binding... I'm also sceptical about the quality of the guitar; if it's around the same price as the dean, you are probably paying most of that for the pickups..?
I won't speak for anyone else; they may all be loving the Schecter idea
Agreed.
I don't like the heel at the neck/headstock joint on the Schecters I have played. I have been told that some don't have it, but every one I have played has had it, and it sucked when I was at the lower register. And even though I don't like a string through, I still like the Dean better. With just the string ferrels (sp) it looks like it is lacking. The "Z" bridge breaks up that, and nicely really.
That is just my opinion, and I suggest you play any and everything you have listed and get what you like. That is the ticket. You won't make good music on equipment you don't like. :wink:
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Which Dean were you looking at.
I've quite liked most of the Schecters I've played, but then I've only played the Blackjack 7 string and the Omen 6.
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Which Dean were you looking at.
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4134
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Go with the Dean.
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Damn them and their extra jumbo frets! Can't stand those :P
I have to say they both look better than the dean which was just hideous in my opinion...shows how different me and indy are really doesn't it :lol:
It seems like you're only comparing these guitars based on their looks though, which is probably not the best idea
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I'm not, a plain black super strat guitar isn't much to look at is it, and that is the one i want at the moment.
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I'm not, a plain black super strat guitar isn't much to look at is it, and that is the one i want at the moment.
Are you sure now? :twisted:
Have you played one of those Schecters? I have and I wasn't that impressed. In fact I played it next to a few Agiles and much preferred the feel of them. Very different guitars, of course, but I wasn't fond of the Schecter in any case.
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It seems like you're only comparing these guitars based on their looks though, which is probably not the best idea
Well - the guitars are extremely similar spec-wise.
Joe - i definately think you should go out and try them both (assuming of course that that is possible for you)
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Well, not really, for any of them, unless i order them in from a guitar store, but then i have to buy it.
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Well, not really, for any of them, unless i order them in from a guitar store, but then i have to buy it.
ur in herts though - how about a trip to Denmark Street, London?
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^ +1, even if you don't buy anything it's a great day out :)
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I've never been there, what is it a guitar shop? And how do you know they have the guitars i want there?
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It's like a whole street of guitar shops! They prolly have the ones you want, but even if they don't - like i said before, it's a great day out
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By the way, Schecter has listed that it is a 3 way switch, even though it looks like a 5 way switch, do you think they have just made a mistake or do you think it's a 3 way in the shape of a 5 way?
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I don't know for sure, but since it only has two pickups it would be usual for it to only have a 3-way.
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Yeah but other Schecters have 5 way switches on 2 humbucker guitars, so it might be a mistake.
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Buy it and find out :lol:
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Buy it and find out :lol:
lol - now there's a man with a plan
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Indy: as of right now, you only have 1399 more posts than me...I will catch you up one day
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ha! if you want a challenge i reccommend trying that one on Sambo :P
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Oh no, don't.
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Can You coil split an EMG 81? I thought it was only the 89 that split (but I could be wrong), in which case you wouldn't be able to utilise 5 positions, hence the 3 way switch.
I tried a C1 blackjack when I was looking for my last guitar, and it was OK, but only OK. The sound was not good at all (it was really quite microphinic actually) and I didn't really like the neck profile, and the fingerboard edges were pretty sharp. On the plus side the Schecter has a (licensed) Tonepros bridge, named US pickups and Buzz Feiten, BUT you are paying for it. The blackjack is £399 and the Hellraiser is £449. Now if you are looking at this type of guitar the Dean Vendetta 3.0 or Hardtail standard are £280 and the Vendetta 4.0 is £307, while the Hardtail Select is £363 (and I've played the hardtail select and MUCH prefer it to the Schecter, but it does have more of a chunky vintage Gibson neck). Now the Deans have Dean pickups, but you're planning on changing them anyway, and it doesn't have Tonepros, but you can buy a Wilkinson locking Tune-a-matic (essentially similar , and indeed has some preferable features) for about $20 from Guitar Fetish. On the plus side for the Deans is they play well with good necks, are well built and look great.
Personally I really liked the Black Gold Z you were planning on getting (why don't they do a Black Gold Cadillac?), and it would certainly get you noticed more than the Schecter.
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ha! if you want a challenge i reccommend trying that one on Sambo :P
mwahahahahahahaha :twisted:
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Ok i changed my mind again, but thats only because all you rubbished it! I'm now not going to post any other guitars i like until i have bought one!
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I take it you're getting the Washburn X50 then. It's a solid guitar.
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How did you know that?
Edit: Don't worry
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I was going to get the X-50 Pro-FE but i figured the only difference's are flamed maple instead of quilited maple, but in my opinion the quilted looks better, and emg's but i'm changing the pickups anyway and that will mean pot changing, also the normal X-50 Pro is about 100 quid cheaper.