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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: DeanS on June 26, 2006, 07:03:42 PM

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: DeanS on June 26, 2006, 07:03:42 PM

Gonna call Tim tomorrow as he was out today but eager to get everyones opinions.

I'm looking at a full set of Bk's to replace the sterile and toneless lace (red silver and blue) sensors in a strat plus deluxe with r/wood board. Now bearing in mind it has a roller nut and different fender trem bridge I was wondering how different the Bk's would sound and whether I'd be able to achieve that classic strat sound?

As pointers, I love a gritty strat sound-not too much mids,and can do cleans as well as responding to a nice bit of drive.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: PhilKing on June 26, 2006, 07:05:12 PM

In a word - Apaches.  I think they will do what you are after perfectly.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: 38thBeatle on June 26, 2006, 07:14:32 PM

Ditto what Phil said. Classic Strat tone.

Title: Mothers Milk
Post by: rperks on June 26, 2006, 08:09:28 PM

Hi,

I have the same guitar as you and I went for Mothers Milk, stock polarity, after some deliberation (see my couple of forum posts).

Sounds great.  I play with just tube overdrive (no pedals when using my strat) and backing from 10 to 8 goes from dirty to clean.  Amazing versatility, guitar sounds so much better - great string separation and classic strat twang.

Cheers,
Rich

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: jordan on June 26, 2006, 08:45:16 PM

+1 for the apaches.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: DeanS on June 27, 2006, 03:22:49 PM

Well, just spoke with Tim who recommended MMilks's mainly due to the type of bridge and how it locates with the body.

So, first purchase of Bk's- calibrated set on pre-wired guard-can't fooking wait!!

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: rperks on June 27, 2006, 03:32:17 PM

Interesting - can you sumerize the discussion as I have the same guitar with MMilk's.  I'm intersted on how this would make a difference.

Thanks

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: DeanS on June 27, 2006, 03:44:36 PM

The bridge on the plus deluxe, as you know, only pivots on two screws as opposed to the 6 in a vintage strat and therefore has minimal contact with the body which to an extent will affect the tone. That together with the type of sounds I'm looking for we arrived at the MM's. ie enough oomph to sound good with fuzzes etc, yet still remain stratty!

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: lifted on June 27, 2006, 04:18:13 PM

Which way does the two point contact affect the tone,  More or less treble?

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: Elliot on June 27, 2006, 04:22:01 PM

I have MMilks - they are awesome - that whole mid sixties hot strat sound - just lovely.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: DeanS on June 27, 2006, 05:08:39 PM

Lifted, compared to a strat I used to own its not a 'sprangy' vintage tone and has undertones that are smoother, more rich etc. Tuning stability is spot on-never ever goes out of tune-temperature changes aside.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: 38thBeatle on June 27, 2006, 07:41:07 PM

I would say go with Tim's recommendation as he is the guru though I am sure the Apaches would do a great job. Don't forget to tell us what you think of the Mmilks when you get them. Any chance of a clip?

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: rperks on June 27, 2006, 08:01:56 PM

They rock in the Strat Plus Deluxe ;-)

I'd send a clip but don't have any recording mechanism - unlss you can offer any free, cheap ideas using a laptop?

Cheers,
RIch

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: _tom_ on June 27, 2006, 08:12:08 PM

Quote from: rperks

They rock in the Strat Plus Deluxe ;-)

I'd send a clip but don't have any recording mechanism - unlss you can offer any free, cheap ideas using a laptop?

Cheers,
RIch

If you have a mic, you can use a free recording program called Audacity, just google it and download, it works really well for a free recorder.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: DeanS on July 08, 2006, 06:50:03 PM

Fitted my Mothers Milk's this morning and haven't stopped playing!

To say I'm really impressed is somewhat of an understatement...

The lace sensors in comparison were truly dull and lifeless, these have soul and tone in abundance.

I'm finding myself using less gain on my amps as the breaking up tones are just lovely and they sustain into mellow feedback when coaxed. Having said that , my fuzz factory has never sounded so good thro' a nano.

Ordered cubase today and will post some clips soon.

Right I'm off to carry on where I left off........

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: steve on July 09, 2006, 10:40:59 AM

Great news, the Mothers Milk are sweet pickups! Cant wait to hear some clips.

Title: Strat replacements
Post by: Lizard on Ice on July 31, 2006, 01:02:44 PM

I've got the same Lace Sensor pack on my Strat, and I can't wait to replace them with BKs.  Of course, the guitar is also pretty cheap, so they will probably end up going in a warmoth guitar yet to be built.   :lol: