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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Sifu Ben on July 02, 2006, 01:43:30 PM
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So I've listened to Black Holes and Revelations all the way through now, and I wondered what the rest of you thought?
Personally I was somewhat torn. It is undeniably a good album, without a single bad song on it, but at the same time it doesn't have any truly great songs, and it also lacks some of the things that make us love Muse. There's no Newborn or Hysteria on the album. Now it's perfectly good and reasonable for a band to progress and develop, but I feel that they've somewhat thrown the baby out with the bath water.
On the plus side it is a perfectly crafted pop album, and will probably provide them with their best ever singles sales. They seem to have achieved the guitar band doing modern dance music thing better than anyone else before.
However, while it is a fairly bleak album, I feel it lacks the angst, anger and venom of the previous 2 albums. It might grow on me though...........
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yeah, i was a touch disappointed myself, with the exception of two songs on there (Knights of Cydonia and Assassin) i thought it was a bit pants.
Although, after hearing them on AOL sessions, i have grown to like Supermassive Black Hole
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I've only ever heard their singles, as I didn't like them much so never listened to the album...Saw them on "Friday Night with Jonathan Ross" the other week and thought they were awful - I used to think he could sing quite well, but (to use an old phrase) it sounded like he was strangling a cat!
The guitar tone was nothing special either - distorted to buggery...far too over the top and unnecessary. Almost like those kids that think they have to turn the gain to 10 to play properly...
Needless to say, I wasn't impressed :lol:
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dunno, i missed that show, but have a look at the AOL sessions...
http://music.aol.co.uk/article.adp?id=20060628055209990002
i thought they sounded better live there than on the album...with the exception of plug in baby, where he sounded like he needed the big crowd to get him going properly on that song...so for that song i'd have to refer you to the absolution DVD
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I watched the AOL Sessions you linked to, and that rendition of Plug in Baby is how I remembered his voice...I only listened to like the first 2 minutes of Knights of whatever it was and had to turn it off
I don't understand why he thought all that squealing was a good idea...I don't know what the song I saw before was, but it sorta alternated between that squealing, and screaming - both of which sounded horrible
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The whole new album is on their myspace, I think its rubbish, so boring! I liked a few of their other songs but I get sick of them quickly.
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Yeah, that's my other bugbear, the constant falsetto :evil:
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Yeah, that's my other bugbear, the constant falsetto :evil:
ya what now???
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^ The fact that he doesn't sing in a key that sounds natural - always sounds like he's forcing his voice to do something that it really really shouldn't :drink:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsetto
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ok
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Its not a bad album, on the whole its pretty good. But no proper stand out tracks. But then again its more consistant.
Was fun putting this on over the Woolworths PA on a sunday. The grannies didn't know what hit them...
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Its not a bad album, on the whole its pretty good. But no proper stand out tracks. But then again its more consistant.
i disagree
i think that Knights of Cydonia is going to be huuuuuuge...even if it does have that weird word...falsettio.... or whatever it was, in it. I still think that song is going to be big
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It's not the falsetto that I personally have a problem with - It's that he doesn't use words with it, it's just high pitched noise :)
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I like the falsetto, IN MODERATION, same as I like a little bit of screaming now and then.
I saw the do Starlight on TOTP and they were much better live, the slightly different mix brought it to life more.
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OK, so I just saw them do the stuff live on 4music and they were fantastic. Maybe the album really will grow on me.
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The new single on Jonathon Ross was amazingly average.
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I'm not a big Muse fan so I haven't heard the new album. But I like supermassive black hole.
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The new single on Jonathon Ross was amazingly average.
at best :drink:
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I saw the do Starlight on TOTP and they were much better live, the slightly different mix brought it to life more.
Ye deffinately...The new album seems to be a bit too dance/ funk orientated which, although possibly bringing them a bigger fan base, has kind of meant that a faIr amount of their old style has gone...not a particuarly good thing as far as im concerned...
Saying that, some of the songs are growing on me....KNights of Cydonia mostly 8)
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Another thing...can anyone explain why every time ive seen Bellamy over the past two weeks hes had suspendors on lol :roll:
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suspenders or braces???
cos he's always worn braces ... weird bloke :?
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Lol...ye braces...they dont even fit him!
suspendors would just be too wierd...even for him
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I saw them at Earls Court about a year and a half ago and they were great. What I saw on those AOL clips was different but they are trying new sounds and it takes a while to adjust to it. IMO they will always do just that cos' that's what Muse are about.
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Lol...ye braces...they dont even fit him!
suspendors would just be too wierd...even for him
Suspenders aren't "weird", they're "unorthodox"...Much like corsets and PVC (which I love but can't afford :P )
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Suspenders aren't "weird", they're "unorthodox"...Much like corsets and PVC (which I love but can't afford :P )
Latex, lace, neoprene & custard
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Rob...
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Custard???...Whatever floats your boat I guess :lol:
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The first half of knights of Cydonia has to be the most wonderfully bar-stewardised surf guitar song ever :P Perhaps Matt is paying homage to his dad's tornadoes roots.
Personally I love the album - it feels like a natural progression from the previous albums. Although who would expect this after hearing Showbiz? Black holes feels like a record from a band with far more experience in the studio, and live.
And the Jonathon Ross tone? It was MQs :D
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The first half of knights of Cydonia has to be the most wonderfully bar-stewardised surf guitar song ever :P Perhaps Matt is paying homage to his dad's tornadoes roots.
Personally I love the album - it feels like a natural progression from the previous albums. Although who would expect this after hearing Showbiz? Black holes feels like a record from a band with far more experience in the studio, and live.
And the Jonathon Ross tone? It was MQs :D
and it's a right laff to play :twisted: