Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: JamesHealey on July 14, 2006, 04:04:34 PM
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Ok Ladies, Which pickup should I put into the bridge of my strat.
Im looking for something versitile, warm big, Harmonically full and it's gotta have a fair bit of output to match up to the Cold Sweat Neck model.
I've narrowed it down to these three.
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VHII!!! LOL
From that list, I would go with the RY.
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Nailbomb, Holy diver a close second, destroy the rebel yell.
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We need more informations about style, stuff played....
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I play
Jazz, (Cold Sweat Covers this quite well)
Blues, (Irish Tour, Cold Sweat does this)
Metal, (CS neck sound is good, Bridge needs to be)
Thrash Metal, (Bridge Needs to cover it)
Fusion, (Think MacAlpine, Holdsworth)
Shred, (Petrucci, Vai, Satriani, Eklundh, Timmons, Gilbert)
80's Rock, (Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, Van Halen, Extreme)
Pop, (Goo Goo Dolls, Gin Blossoms, Savage Garden)
Soul/70's (IT covers the clean sounds for this)
Progressive Rock. (Pink Floyd, Dream Theater, Marillion)
does that help??? :S
This thing has to be versitile, powerful, rich and sing.
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I've got a VHII Bridge thats in my friends guitar at the moment might be worth asking him if I can try i swap it out for the MM
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Still the Nailbomb i think.
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You probably need either to get two guitars and buy both, or prioritise the styles of music you play - to my mind you'd probably struggle to get all those tones from one pickup, but maybe I'm wrong
From what I've been told (when I was in the same situation) was to go for the HD...I play similar styles to you by the look of it, but I prioritised the 80s Rock and Prog Rock over the Metal, but I have been assured that the HD will do metal really well also
For these reasons the Holy Diver is going to be my recommendation to you
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Metal isnt really a priority u can get a decent metal tone out of any pickup with enough drive behind it and the righ EQ'ing.. It's tone im thinking about more than face melting gain.. which is what the MM provides at the moment and unfortunatley it doesnt really do much else.
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Holy Diver for the win, in that case :D
I'm intending to order my set a week from today, when I next get paid hehehehehe
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1st/ Nailbomb. Pure versatility.
2nd/ Rebell Yell. 'Coz it sings and can go from light to very heavy rock and shred. With a light PAF smell.
3rd/ Holy Diver. Don't own one, but it seems to have gobs and gobs of mids. And a very thick tone. Probably good, but less versatile.
My personal fave is the RY: it rocks but will not be the best for trash style. (I change my NB for a RY)
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I have a Musicman Petrucci with a Holydiver bridge and Cold Sweat neck, F***ing amazing. Big fat juicy lead tone but still defined, matches cold sweat in humbucking mode perfectly. Have tried nailbomb in same guitar and sounds too abrasive compared to coldsweat. Holydiver is the one to go for !
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I voted for the Holy Diver but I also think you're overlooking the Crawler for the amount of styles you want to cover.
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I agree on the Crawler. It has more power than the Rebel Yell and might be the most versatile higher power pickup BK makes.
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I was under the impression the RY was higher output than the Crawler...but tbh, it'll be by such a small amount you prolly wouldn't notice
And aren't the RY and CS neck models the same? 'cause by that logic the RY would be a good choice to match with your Cold Sweat
I still would go for the HD if it were me though
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...warm big, Harmonically full and it's gotta have a fair bit of output to match up to the Cold Sweat Neck model.
I voted for the HD. It might not be as versatile as the NB, but it certainly has these three qualities - I love it in my Warmoth strat.
Metal, (CS neck sound is good, Bridge needs to be)
Thrash Metal, (Bridge Needs to cover it)
Shred, (Petrucci, Vai, Satriani, Eklundh, Timmons, Gilbert)
80's Rock, (Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, Van Halen, Extreme)
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powerful, rich and sing
The other reason I voted HD was because it covers these things very well & you've admitted that the other things in your list are adequately covered by your neck & middle pickups.
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Tim said the Rebel Yell and so did Twighlight, and i think they've got some great ears for tone and i've listened over and over to that steve stevens clip and the cleans and distortion sound is absolutly ideal really.
versitile yet totally balls to the wall. decision is over now, just gotta finance it which shouldnt be a problem aslong as my cheque im owed arrives :P
Cheers for the input though guys i've though about this one a lot more than my other purchases so hopefully i'll hit the nail on the head with this one.
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I would say Rebel Yell too.
However, saying certain pups are only good for certain tones is poooooooo.
Alot depends on Amp/EQ and style.
My custom Warpigs can do a mean blues tone, yeah da pigs.
However. Pound for pound would say RY.
Basically, and am sure this will born obvious in general. Most folk will vote/say the pup 'they' own or 'favor'.
Truth is, Tim does NOT make a bad pup and depending on amp/effects etc. all can make glorious noises of styles.
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Just but a VHII in the bridge of my strat and the Miracle Man back into the ESP so it's
VHII, Irish Tour, Cold Sweat on the Strat.. the balance of output between the bridge and neck is a bit hard to level out but i've managed to do it with the bridge up close and the neck dropped a bit...
Amazing tones just what i was after really..
and the ESP with the Set of MM's is actually sounding really good with those pickups in.
Didnt even have to spend any money.. Booya!
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So we discussed it for 2 pages for nothing :?: :!: :shock:
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nope it's future information for when i start to think i should change out the VHII..