Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Turbo Rico on July 17, 2006, 11:20:01 PM
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Hi! Iīm new here.
I just got a Miracle Man for a custom made KKV that should arrive in september. So I still donīt know how it sounds. Only heard good things about it and Timīs sound clip is amazing! Like the playing, Tim.
Anyways... Iīll get unother custom made (KKV of course) guitar from Ran Guitars within 1-2 weeks (finally!). All maple, ebony fretboard, Kahler and EMG 81/81. I already got 3 guitars with EMG so I was thinking of replacing those with some BKP. Timīs advice was Miracle Man, thatīs why I ordered that one for my new guitar.
What other pick ups are good for speed/thrash metal like Slayer? Alot of speed picking and I need a lot of mid range. Iīll play modified Marshall SL-X, Iīll get it next week.
Whatīs Your suggestions? Warpig? Stick to the Miracle Man? Nailbomb?
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warpig is more for that kinda heavy de-tune metal
Hatebreed to me sums up the Warpig type tones.. or atleast thats the way it's heading.
If u want more 80's till mid 90's kinda thrash/speed, go for a Miracle Man or a Nailbomb.
The Miracle Man has a really tight huge bass responce, lots of lower mids, slightly scooped higher mids and a very smooth rounded yet cutting abrassive High.. Just like the EMG81's but with more lower mids but far more responsive dynamic.
The Nailbomb doesnt have that subsonic bass responce of the MM, the bass is much looser, the lower mids are more to do with the Low End tone, and are very clear, the higher mid range barks like a marshall amp does but with a seriously agressive bite like a bulldog chewing a wasp, and the high end detail is superb really clear and when ur doing fast picking runs it almost sounds like a c--ked wah and really sounds vocal.. compared to the MM which can sound a bit sterile/ceramic-y.. but thats what it's meant to do.
atleast they're my observations..
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Ok, I really like Hatebreed but thatīs not the sound Iīm looking for.
Sound like I should stick to the MM? Itīs important that You can here every single note when speed picking really fast. But that can be done with both the MM and the Nailbomb? Loose bass isnīt always good for this purpose?? Or is it..?
Sometimes I hate having more than one choice... :roll:
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If you're looking for midrange and crunch then the nailbomb will suit you, it should also be very tight in a maple/ebony guitar. I don't think Slayer used EMGs on their first album or so anyway (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe a custom job like an alnico Miracle Man would be a good balance though?
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The "Alnico Miracle Man" sounds like a good way to go to me - PM Tim and ask if he can make you one...I think Nick has some custom ceramic Warpigs - so Tim's definitely up for that kind of thing wherever it's possible
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Hey, Turbo! :)
So you're finally about to cross the line and enter the world of Bareknuckles...?
I'm not sure you would be happy with the standard Alnico magnet MiracleMan, that is really the neck MM... It's supposed to be very good clean, but maybe it's heavier when installed in the bridge..?
The standard bridge MM is ceramic which might be more suitable for your kind of music...
A custom wound might be the way to go? An Alnico wound a little hotter maybe?
Well, as you know I should have my custom this week, so then I can report about both the MM bridge and the MM neck with Alnico... :P
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If you're looking for midrange and crunch then the nailbomb will suit you, it should also be very tight in a maple/ebony guitar. I don't think Slayer used EMGs on their first album or so anyway (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe a custom job like an alnico Miracle Man would be a good balance though?
Yes, Slayer didnīt use EMG on their early albums. Donīt know what Jeff was playing in the early days but I know Kerry King had some kinda Dimarzios in his old BC Rich KKVs. He changed when he got his ESP sig in 1990. I think he recorded Seasons with DiMarzio and than on the Seasons In the Abyss tour he changed to EMG.
So Your weapon of choice would be Nailbomb? Whatīs the difference between alcino and ceramic? More output in the ceramic ones?
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Hey, Turbo! :)
So you're finally about to cross the line and enter the world of Bareknuckles...?
I'm not sure you would be happy with the standard Alnico magnet MiracleMan, that is really the neck MM... It's supposed to be very good clean, but maybe it's heavier when installed in the bridge..?
The standard bridge MM is ceramic which might be more suitable for your kind of music...
A custom wound might be the way to go? An Alnico wound a little hotter maybe?
Well, as you know I should have my custom this week, so then I can report about both the MM bridge and the MM neck with Alnico... :P
Hi!
Youīll write a complete review of it on GMF and/or Nordpolenexpress??? Right..?
Anyways. I already got a ceramic MM thatīs gonna end up in my Fagerlund KKV. But this is for my KKV from Ran Guitars. Donīt know if I want 2 guitars with MM, maybe I should try something else...? Thatīs why I asked. But if the ceramic MM sound good, why change?
Let me know what You think of it when You get Your guitar. It looks GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD btw.
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You are looking for a Nailbomb my friend! Nailbomb and Miracle man do thrash/speed metal better than anything. Don't go for Warpig unless you want Death metal kind of stuff.
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I'm not sure you would be happy with the standard Alnico magnet MiracleMan, that is really the neck MM... It's supposed to be very good clean, but maybe it's heavier when installed in the bridge..?
The magnet is not the only difference between the neck and bridge model, the bridge model of all pickups is wound hotter than the neck. This is because the strings vibrate less at the bridge and therefore the signal is generally weaker, and needs a hotter pickup to make it sound good. If you put a neck MM into the bridge position it would likely sound fairly weak. What we suggested was an Alnico pickup wound to the 17.5K of a bridge MM
However, on second thoughts a Nailbomb looks good for Mr Turbo :)
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Ok, more and more say Nailbomb... Maybe I should go with that. Than Iīll have one guitar with MM and one with Nailbomb. 3 with EMG 81/81. That should do it!
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I wonder how the coming Painkiller will cope with this type of riffing?
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Talk to Tim before pulling the trigger. He'll give you some good food for thought and some very interesting suggestions that may help more than the specualtions of us forumites. :lol:
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Nailbomb +1
I have one in my Legra guitar, i love thrash and black metal type stuff (amongst other things) and it works great for riffing and 'blast picking' black metal stuff 8)
Clean aint bad either, its a great all round metal pickup
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I wonder how the coming Painkiller will cope with this type of riffing?
When will that pickup arrive?? Wasnīt there 2 new pickups thatīs gonna be released soon?
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Nailbomb +1
I have one in my Legra guitar, i love thrash and black metal type stuff (amongst other things) and it works great for riffing and 'blast picking' black metal stuff 8)
Clean aint bad either, its a great all round metal pickup
Clean isnīt an issue. We donīt do that. I donīt hurt if it can handle cleans but.. as for now I donīt need that.
I guess I gonna try out the Nailbomd or wait until the new pickups/pickups is/are out.
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Painkiller might be good by the sounds of it, but i still think Nailbomb would handle it better!
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Talk to Tim before pulling the trigger. He'll give you some good food for thought and some very interesting suggestions that may help more than the specualtions of us forumites. :lol:
I did when I ordered my first Bare Knuckle. I ended up with the Miracle Man. Tim can custom make pick ups? So if I order a Nailbomb he can "fix it" so Iīll like it even more? Thing is... Iīm not really sure what I want. Donīt know how the guitar will sound and I have no idea how Bare Knuckle Pickups sound like. Never used one before. All I know is that I wanna try something else than my EMGs. Nothing wrong, but I think I can improve my sound with more "natural sounding" pops, if You know what I mean? EMGs are pretty sterile.
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Right, in my opinion you'll be happy with the Nailbomb. From what I've heard, it doesn't really matter hugely which pickup you get. Now, obviously it does, but I think the sentiment is that they're all so versatle they can cope with almost anything.
The Nailbomb by its very sentiment is aimed at what you want to play, and lets face it, how cool would it be to be able to say to your mates "well I'm more metal than you, my pickups are called Nailbombs!" :P
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Right, in my opinion you'll be happy with the Nailbomb. From what I've heard, it doesn't really matter hugely which pickup you get. Now, obviously it does, but I think the sentiment is that they're all so versatle they can cope with almost anything.
The Nailbomb by its very sentiment is aimed at what you want to play, and lets face it, how cool would it be to be able to say to your mates "well I'm more metal than you, my pickups are called Nailbombs!" :P
hahaha!
Youīve got a point there...
Consider that I will have a guitar with Miracle Man, maybe I should try out the Nailbomb.
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I think you should go for it.
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Anyone knows when the new pickup gonna be released? Is it more than just the Painkiller? I thought it was 2 new pickups?
I guess I gonna try out the Nailbomb, maybe a bit modified. I gonna play the guitar first and try to hear what would be the best. Than talk to Tim about modify it if necassary. Weīll see... Hope Iīll get the guitar soon.
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I think the Nailbomb would be great for you Turbo. I love my Nailbombs...I actually like them more than my Miracle Man...though i highly recommend the Cold Sweat. The Nailbomb is literally THE BOMB. So melodic...very organic, not overwarm, great for all sorts of music. I play a lot of jazz and progressive styled metal and fusion and I think that's really where they shine...Honestly, they are a prog player's dream. So well suited for chops intensive stuff! It also kills for the heaviness. So, GO OUT AND GET 'EM. The great thing about them is that they really work nicely with your amp and allow its strong suits to shine. They sound good with all sorts of EQ configs. If you lighten up the bass with them A LITTLE (in my opinion), they sound the best. Hope you go for em!
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I think the Nailbomb would be great for you Turbo. I love my Nailbombs...I actually like them more than my Miracle Man...though i highly recommend the Cold Sweat. The Nailbomb is literally THE BOMB. So melodic...very organic, not overwarm, great for all sorts of music. I play a lot of jazz and progressive styled metal and fusion and I think that's really where they shine...Honestly, they are a prog player's dream. So well suited for chops intensive stuff! It also kills for the heaviness. So, GO OUT AND GET 'EM. The great thing about them is that they really work nicely with your amp and allow its strong suits to shine. They sound good with all sorts of EQ configs. If you lighten up the bass with them A LITTLE (in my opinion), they sound the best. Hope you go for em!
Ok, sounds cool. I gonna go for the Nailbomb so in the end Iīll have one guitar with the Miracle Man and one with Nailbomb. That should do the trick!
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We look forward to the clips :P !
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We look forward to the clips :P !
Iīll give You a taste of the record when itīs done. When ever that will be... :roll: Weīre one year late already. :o