Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Ratrod on June 06, 2005, 11:57:00 AM
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All you BLS fans should recognise this one.
The amp is Fender Hot Rod Deluxe hooked up to a Fender Bandmaster 2X12 Jensen speaker cabinet. The overdrive is a H&K Tube Factor on factor 2. The chorus in the intro is an old Ibanez CS-9. The guitar is a BC Rich Mockingbird Fire Breather with a Jackson neck and a Warpig in the bridge (basswood body, Maple neck, rosewood fretboard)
I recorded it with a Shure SM57 mic at the outer rom of one of the Jensen speakers, into a mixing desk with flat EQ. Recorded it on tape and recorded that on to the computer.
It's a simple song, just two chords in the main riff, 3 in the chorus. It will allow you to concentrate on the pickup's sound. Tuning is drop C :twisted:
PS: if this violates any copyright laws or something, feel free to nuke this post.
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Man, this is... HEAVY !! :twisted:
The warpig is tight and shines under low tuning like no other PU! :D
Amazing what can be done with a Fender amp , a hot pedal and a warpig!
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Hey - great clip! :twisted:
Super saturated chug, we like :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Love it, awesome tone-CHUG baby CHUG PDT_045
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Tanks guys. The amp and pedal settings are basicly what I always use. Sounds very different depending on the guitar I plug in.
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Cool chugging! :)
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There's onyl really one word to describe that.
HEAVY!!
:) good playing, really tight, noooo solo though, was just waiting for some real ripping one to come in, shows off the sound of the pick ups well though.
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I'm a dedicated rythm player actually, I'm not too good on solo's. I could have done some pentatonic bluesy thing but it would have ruined the song. Zakk Wylde solo's are way out of my league. :?
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I though pentatonic bluesy things was all Zakk did...just hammer them out!!
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I'll see what I can do for the next clip. Too bad I don't have a multi track recorder. Maybe I should get that Zakk book. :?
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They sound really good.
A mate of mine has just bought some WarPigs for his Indie LP, lucky git.
I have nowhere near enough cash for my BKP's yet :(
Andy!
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:twisted:
Been waiting for ages for a warpig clip... Sounds great! It'd be good to hear some warpig shredding though... Anyone?
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I have got a warpig on my old jackson, but i don't use it much anymore, i could dust it off (lol) and record something, gotta get a microphone from somewere though.
Will prolly have to be after download now though.
"I'm a dedicated rythm player actually, I'm not too good on solo's. I could have done some pentatonic bluesy thing but it would have ruined the song. Zakk Wylde solo's are way out of my league. "
Thats cool, and theres nothing wrong with some pentatonic bluesy licks, check out dimes solo on walk, bluuuues all the way :)
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Funny thing is, that Mockingbird of mine is actually a POS. It's not balanced, uncomfotable, neck's reasonable but not great. But I keep picking up the damn thing because it sounds so damn good. In standard tuning it does everything from punk to metal. It even does a good AC/DC in it's own saturated way. :D
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Yet another great sounding clip :twisted:
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Damn.
What a great chug. I was playing the Fender Hot Rods recently here, and loved it. I like it even more now, and the BKPs!
I need to look into a good pedal like that!
Sweet clip
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I'm actually thinking about replacing the Tube Factor with a Jekyll & Hyde pedal. I'll have to give it a try first to see if it's any better.
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Right. Here are the other soundclips I promissed. It's the same setup as before but I added one more mic. This one was on the Eminence speaker in the combo. Quality is slightly less, I lost my regular recording cable so I had to improvise with normal home sound system wires. I think the tape deck has seen better days too, it's a bit jangly. Haven't been playing for a week so excuse the bad playing.
Anyway, the first clip is clean, the second one dirty. No backing tracks, standard tuning and a touch of Fender reverb. Enjoy!
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-Greetings, & felicitations Ratrod!-
Sounded good,those clips- that must be yer 'FireBreather', right?-
-Like the music store, no click approach, and am inspired to post some clips without all the metrononic bumping and ticking in the background...
-cheers, mate!-
Drac
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Thanks Drac. It's the Fire Breather indeed. Lives up to it's name with the Warpig.
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Hails RATROD.
thank´s for the clip man
i liked it.
i heard a lot of tight bass comingn from the WARPIG... but i´m wondering if it is a result of its lots of Bass combined with the tight bass or just th elots of bass?!?
Hails
J.P
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The bass is tight and there's lots of it. A Miracle man has an even tighter bass because of the ceramic magnet. If you want the tightness of the Miracle Man combined with the chug of the Warpig, I think you should go for the ceramic Warpig.
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Huuuuuuum... thank´s
Q:)
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The bass is tight and there's lots of it. A Miracle man has an even tighter bass because of the ceramic magnet. If you want the tightness of the Miracle Man combined with the chug of the Warpig, I think you should go for the ceramic Warpig.
How's the Warpig for solos? I'm going for VH 2's in the fall, and another set I haven't decided on yet. It's either the Nailbomb or the Warpig. BKP's are just too damn good. :D
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Solos are very nice with the Warpig, almost bluesy. Just hit that one note and feel it. It exells in Iommi style solos. When soloing the Warpig seems to turn into a really warm and saturated PAF.
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HUUUUUM, VERY GOOD Description ratrod. i´m COLLECTING INfos.
Thank´s
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Very nice clip!
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Thanx!
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Good stuff! The dirty tone certainly sounds like the Warpig lives up to its name, and wow -- a lot of bass in there. But, heretical though it may seem, I was almost more impressed with the clean tone! Amazing that something that can get such a raunchy dirt tone also cleans up so well. That Total Guitar review may indeed have been pretty much on the mark.
Did someone in some thread say Tim has a guitar loaded with Warpigs? It'd be interesting to hear a brief clip from that too .....
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The TG review is spot on.
Watch this space for more clips. I just had a request for some solo work of the Warpig. I picked up Reise, reise from Rammstein today. This is THE pickup for THAT sound. So I'm gonna record some Rammstein licks as well.
Anyone wanna hear it do rockabilly? :twisted:
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That would be very cool :twisted: I look forward to hearing it.
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More clips then. Same setup as the first clip I posted. The solo is the ending part of Suicide Messiah. The rhythm guitar during the actual solo isn't mine, it's the backing track. Be warned I'm no virtuoso. :lol:
For the rockabilly part I added a little slap echo from my Danelectro Wasabi Rock-a-Bey. There's a bit of clipping, the output of the Warpig is a little too much for the Dano. It looked rediculous playing rockabilly on that guitar.
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Very cool clips :D I've definitely got to get me some Warpigs :twisted:
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Hails ratrod
i liked the lead clip
Q:p
and i liked MORE the backing riff you recorded with the warpig.
can you record to me a just RIFFAGE using only the warpig, guitar, amps distortion and nothing more?
Hails
J.P
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Thanks for all the WARpig clips! Sounds pretty good to me dirty and clean.
In your opinion, how does the pig handle pinch harmonics and shredding solos/arpeggios.
Something like old soilwork or shadow falls soloing.
Thanks man
tol
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Thanks guys! You are too kind.
I'm currently practicing some Rammstein stuff. Need to get the rhythm super tight for that. It's gonna be tuff recording some that without the drums. Do you want a riff with big long epic sounding power chords or something chuggadachuggadachug, WFD?
Pinch harmonics are good on the Warpig, but the Miracle Man is better at it. I'm not a shredder. What you just heard in the clip is just about the limit of my abillity :oops: .
The Miracle Man is the better shredding pickup, I think.
I'll be posting a Crawler clip too, in the near future.
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Thanks for all the WARpig clips! Sounds pretty good to me dirty and clean.
In your opinion, how does the pig handle pinch harmonics and shredding solos/arpeggios.
Something like old soilwork or shadow falls soloing.
Thanks man
tol
it handles the shredding sound very well, i've used it with Line 6 pods, Roland combos and my JCM 900 and i've got an awesome sound from each one. It really is that great, i should be ordering some more soon to put into a guitar i might be buying within a couple of days.
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Sweet man! I have heard yours. Sounds good. Chug leads and harmonics! The difference is I don't have a 7 string (or a warpig) and I tune to E.
I think I'll just have to get over it and just pick a pickup already!
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Thanks Tol.
The Metallica riff is in stock E tuning. Maybe that'll give you some idea. Thing is I keep tuning it back to drop C because it sounds so damn good that way. :twisted:
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Thanks guys! You are too kind.
I'm currently practicing some Rammstein stuff. Need to get the rhythm super tight for that. It's gonna be tuff recording some that without the drums. Do you want a riff with big long epic sounding power chords or something chuggadachuggadachug, WFD?
Pinch harmonics are good on the Warpig, but the Miracle Man is better at it. I'm not a shredder. What you just heard in the clip is just about the limit of my abillity :oops: .
The Miracle Man is the better shredding pickup, I think.
I'll be posting a Crawler clip too, in the near future.
Nice clips ratrod. Im looking forward to the Rammstein stuff! what songs are you practicing?
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$%&#ing Hails RatRod... how many guitars and tunings do you use on them?
i´m planning to have 5 guitars, maybe 4, maybe 6(G.A.S) ahahahah..
i´ll use the following tunings on my guitars : one in d, other in C, other in E, other in B, and other in D.
those two guitars tuned in D iwill be one passive, and other actvie... with(possibly) the same Woods, specs etc
i´ll send to you 2 riffs that i want you to record them to me with your Bks.
one is the Main riff i USE to test pickups articulation.
Mayhem is the name of the band, and Freezing Moon the name of the song.
and the other one will be a mix of Venom-Blackmetal and a riff of mine.
Hails
J.P
Thanks Tol.
The Metallica riff is in stock E tuning. Maybe that'll give you some idea. Thing is I keep tuning it back to drop C because it sounds so damn good that way. :twisted:
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Steve.
I'm working on Reise, Reise wich is not too hard and Keine Lust. The last one is a bit tuff in the chorus, trying to get the rhythm in sync with that double picking. I also screwed around with Los, tuned an accoustic down to drop C :lol: . Never heard an accoustic sound that angry and that drummer is a cyborg. Wish I had some backing tracks of the stuff.
WFD.
I currently have 4 guitars: the Mockingbird with the Warpig, the Yamaha SG with the Crawlers, Reverend Wolfman and a hot rodded Fender Telecaster. I use standard tuning most of the time, except for the Mockingbird. Sometimes Drop D or BADGBE for the other guitars (that's just retuning one string).
I'll see what I can do with your clips
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Up loading it right now ...
what do you preffer .. . i send it via MSN, email to you?
I send it via "YOUSENDIT.COM" ??
You download it from my WWW.SOUNDCLICK.COM homepage??
Hails
J.P
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/withfulldistortion_music.htm
its the first 2 clips named : MMV,MMVD.
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Black Metalllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!
one of the coolest metal riffs ever :D
i will get round to doing some Windir black metal clips and some random riff stuff on my stock LP one day soon, and then on my custom project (probably in a fair few weeks on that one!)
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The solo is the ending part of Suicide Messiah. The rhythm guitar during the actual solo isn't mine, it's the backing track. Be warned I'm no virtuoso. :lol: For the rockabilly part I added a little slap echo from my Danelectro Wasabi Rock-a-Bey. There's a bit of clipping, the output of the Warpig is a little too much for the Dano. It looked rediculous playing rockabilly on that guitar.
But actually sounds quite good! Again, it's impressive how well that pickup of cleans up -- perhaps a function of the A5 magnet rather than ceramic? It's certainly bassy, but very organic sounding and not at all harsh.
Is there another pickup in the guitar, besides the Warpig in the bridge? If so, how well have you got them balancing in terms of output? One of my main worries in getting a Warpig would be balancing its output with another pickup (lots of height adjustment whilst trying not to mess up the tone of either pickup).
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The Warpig is pretty bassy + I have a bassy amp with a bassy speaker cab, the body wood is pretty bassy as well. When your playing in a band most of that sub bass is lost in the mix (bass drum, bass guitar). What's left is solid as a rock.
This Mockingbird is a single pickup guitar. But I think it can easily be combined with a Crawler or VHII.
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This Mockingbird is a single pickup guitar. But I think it can easily be combined with a Crawler or VHII.
One of the possible pairings I had been thinking of was Warpig bridge and Alnico Miracle Man neck. (Though it would be interesting to hear a Warpig neck, too -- how creamy can the 'pig get? :))
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I think you should ask Steve. He's the Pig expert.
I'm thinkig about getting a cheap used Epi gothic Explorer. I'll put the Mockingbirds Warpig in the bridge and add a Mississippi Pig in the neck.
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Well, Steve, do you or anyone have a set of Pigs? It'd be great to hear more. I'm increasingly thinking my choice hinges around whether, with a 'pig in the bridge, I can put something in the neck to deliver the "souped-up Santana" tones I hear in my head -- or alternatively put something lower output in both the bridge and neck, like a Mule bridge and (recently rumoured Abraxas in the neck, falling back on the amp (or, in my case, amp simulator!) for heavied up tones ....
I've got some saving up to do while I think about it though! ;) So in the meantime it's great to hear all these clips. I'm really thinking that it would be worth culling the clips from the threads and organizing them on the website by pickup model, with notes on the guitar, etc. that was used in recording (perhaps the format for annotating this info could be standardized?). It's really getting so one has to scrounge around through the Players threads, but there's a lot of great "customer info" to be had in them.
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I'd like to hear that new Abraxis as well. The Crawler in the neck also does an awesome Santana impression.
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I'd like to hear that new Abraxis as well. The Crawler in the neck also does an awesome Santana impression.
Yup, I remember you mentioning it! Though, who knows? Even the Warpig bridge sounds pretty organic and sweet when clean -- it might sound surprisingly sexy in the neck position. :)
I need to make myself a chart of possible pickup pairings. (Another idea for the main BKP web site, to aid those not taking a set of 2 pups together -- though I think someone else already mentioned this idea.)
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Well, Steve, do you or anyone have a set of Pigs? It'd be great to hear more. I'm increasingly thinking my choice hinges around whether, with a 'pig in the bridge, I can put something in the neck to deliver the "souped-up Santana" tones I hear in my head -- or alternatively put something lower output in both the bridge and neck, like a Mule bridge and (recently rumoured Abraxas in the neck, falling back on the amp (or, in my case, amp simulator!) for heavied up tones ....
I've got some saving up to do while I think about it though! ;) So in the meantime it's great to hear all these clips. I'm really thinking that it would be worth culling the clips from the threads and organizing them on the website by pickup model, with notes on the guitar, etc. that was used in recording (perhaps the format for annotating this info could be standardized?). It's really getting so one has to scrounge around through the Players threads, but there's a lot of great "customer info" to be had in them.
I don’t have a set of pig's, I play bass! my brother does though! Your thinking of having an alnico V miracle man in the neck is spot on, that’s what the warpig neck is!! I think if you want the Santana tone you should wait for the Abraxis, It will have a much sweeter tone, especially if you have it with an alnico IV magnet.
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Here's the clip I recorded for With Full Distortion. I've done it until the break, thar Em thing that sounds like Sanitarium. After that it gets complicated but it's all I could do on short notice. It's still a bit sloppy but I hope it'll help in WFD's tone quest.
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AAHAHAHAHA $%&#ING THANK´S MAN
what a HUGE AMMOUNT OF bass and it has definition and articulation
ahahahahah THANK´S for the clip.
what is the pickup used? WARPIG?
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You're welcome. It's the Warpig loaded Mockingbird. The pics are in the guitars amps n' FX section.
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YES!!! i dig the Graphics on the Bc rich, just don´t like Radical shapes. i preffer traditional shapes and RADICAL DISTORTION/PICKUPS
ahahhaahahahhaha
Hails and thank´s RatRod!
BTW what means your nick?!?! hahahahahaha
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The nickname comes from Rat Rod. It's a term to describe hot rods in the style of the late twenties 'till the early sixties. They look like they've been to hell and back. Usually they're in primer colors and have steel wheels.
(http://imagessd.citysearch.com/profile/03/c2/181923p1.jpg)
This one is a nice example, no paint at all. Flat head V8, zoomie pipes without mufflers.
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I don’t have a set of pig's, I play bass!
Eh, well, so do I :) But I haven't figured out a strategy to BKPize my bass, so I'm thinking about BKPizing the guitar instead :)
Your thinking of having an alnico V miracle man in the neck is spot on, that’s what the warpig neck is!!
Ah! I must be starting to understand at least something about how the different pickups do their things!!
I think if you want the Santana tone you should wait for the Abraxis, It will have a much sweeter tone, especially if you have it with an alnico IV magnet.
Mmmmm, Santana neck tone, yes ..... :) Well, yeah, I'm interested to see how the outputs on the new models turnout. I'm thinking it will be easiest for me if I don't let a new BKP bridge pup be more than about twice as hot as the new BKP neck (which, as I understand it, is about how my stock Gibsons are arranged).
Still, sounds like I could do *worse* than a Warpig set if the Warpig neck is actually a Alnico MM in disguise :). (But also it will be interesting to see how effin' heavy the Abraxis bridge will get, or which other pups in the bridge would match an Abraxis neck.)
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Understood ratrod.
thank´s for the quickly explanation
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The Nailbomb i just heard for first time ever the soloing tone is f****g awesum but i now heard the cool warpig i was gagging for the solo lol doood you played that perfect!! it was so god damn tight the structure played musicaly was on par perfect, tho i dont kno which to buy the warpig or the nailbomb. The Nailbomb tone has impressed me its got prety chaotic crunch, soaring sustains and pinch harmonics :D i need to see if the warpig is not just some nu-metal pickup i wanna see if you can solos with it. One guy on a site sed "i been playing for 15 years and never done solos, the warpig inspired me to do a full on solo and thh shredding sounds f****g awesum" sum 1 plz do a clip asap im already excited about bareknuckles range now i forgot about EMG. Im in a metal band i been playing for more than a year now and yes i can solo i been learning from zak wyldes video lessons so i learnt to shred by practicing for hrs on end. Im becomming a much better guitarist from learning from the best and me and my lead guitarist both solo so we require bloody high output shredding metal monster pickups.
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Hi meatalshredder, welcome to the forum!
The warpig is the highest output humbucker we do; it has a DC of 22K and is comparable to an EMG 81 output wise. It’s not just a new metal pickup; you can play anything from early Sabbath to Strapping young lad with it! The Nailbomb is more versatile, it has a more organic open tone. Another pickup that may interest you is the Miracle man, which nails Zakks tone! Check Tims cover of gets me through and the BKP miracle man clip!
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Thanks for the compliments Metalshredder85. The Warpig is one hell of a pickup, especially if you're a rhythm player. Most of my clips are in drop C so it sounds heavy as sh!t. In stock tuning it has a bit of that classic Sabbath and Metallica vibe. Check out the clip by Killerwhale, he's done some amazing shredding with the Warpig.
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I'm definitely no nu-metal dude (I'm 100% with Mr. Wylde's infamous comentary on this one :)), I'm more a classic heavy rock kinda guy, but I'm highly tempted by the Warpig for the bridge, since all the rhythm, lead, and clean samples of it in various styles that people have posted sound ace. I suck :) and have really sloppy technique ("unforgiving" pickups are not for me!) but I can slam out rhythm pretty decently (at home I tune usually down to D across the fretboard), so a pickup that plays to my strengths (such as they are) and won't overly highlight my weaknesses is very attractive, and the Warpig is all that. I especially like the way the 'pig cleans up, better than the MM I gather, and I dig the Alnico sound more than the ceramic sound (though were I a shredder, I've heard nothing that beats the Miracle Man!).
I've thought of pairing it in the neck with either an A5 MM (apparently the official Warpig neck anyway) or with an A4 Mule, but am hanging out to see what the Abraxas pups sound like (since I'm a huge sucker for Santanaish neck tones). Otherwise, the main competition for a bridge Warpig would be a Mule, since those clips also sound fabulous -- awesome "vintage plus a little" vibe. If I were a better player, I think I'd go for the Mule straight off since I think good technique would be shown off by the Mule to excellent advantage.
(I can't help but think the Black Dogs and Emeralds are being overshadowed by the attention given to the Mules, since what few clips I've heard of them sound pretty excellent, too -- perhaps when the more detailed product descriptions appear it will be easier to distinguish what's going on with the various models. There are so many shades of grey hiding between the twin poles of "vintage" and "modern high gain"!)
But I'm still saving my pennies, and hoping the Abraxas rolls out within the next few months to give me more to think about. (These decisions would be easier if I just had more guitars, but then my wife would kill me and I wouldn't get to play them anyway ;)).
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I like the Warpig for some heavy classic rock. It's a lot of fun playing Sabbath and Motorhead with it, or any NWOBHM. It even sounds good doing AC/DC. There's too much saturation in it to be spot on (you'll need a Riff Raff for that) but it handles open chords like now other high output pickup.
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shite GUYS, Stop talking the goodies of the pickups... cause i´ll go down on $$$ and get 3 BKps for my guitars
HAHAHAAH DAMN
ahahahhahh
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I like the Warpig for some heavy classic rock. It's a lot of fun playing Sabbath and Motorhead with it, or any NWOBHM.
:twisted: Bring it on! :)
It even sounds good doing AC/DC. There's too much saturation in it to be spot on (you'll need a Riff Raff for that) but it handles open chords like now other high output pickup.
Heh, I had always wondered what the Riff Raff was named for, and not until I read that did my slow, slooow brain put 2 and 2 together to make AC/DC! I guess the Riff Raff belongs in my list of "pickups that don't seem to get as much attention" alongside the Emerald and Black Dog -- I've seen a few clips pass by, I'm sure, but not many!
Well, I'm not on a quest to nail somebody else's tone, anyway; I'm on a quest to make my guitar sound cooler to me than it already does :) And it sounds pretty cool, but not as cool as it will do :)
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So I'm guessing I'll have to get my @ss back in the studio for more clips. I'll snoop through my (limited) collection of backing tracks.
Isn't there anyone who's got an SG with Riff Raffs and an old Marshall who can post some AC/DC clips?
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Your setup sounds great for metal! The Warpigs sound evil :twisted: I forgot, did you say the Tubefactor is good for lower gain stuff aswell? Like, the styles of things I play vary from low gain, gritty Led Zep/AC DC to med. gain GnR, VR etc upto Pantera, Megadeth etc. The Marshall Guvnor 2 just aint doing anything for me anymore :(
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Check out my Crawler clips. 'What You Are' Is done on factor 1 wich is low gain. Sounds a bit like a Marshall JTM-45. It mostly depends on what guitar I plug in. With the Mockingbird it's modern metal, the SG is hard hitting rock and with the Reverend it's Malcolm Young AC/DC.
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ohh right so you'd recommend it then? The Audioslave one sounds kinda muddy thats probably just the recording quality though I guess. I'll be playing it with my soon to be totally "Mule-d out" LP :P so Id guess itl sound slightly more "vintagey" than your Crawlers?
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It's a good pedal. It might not be to everyone's taste and it might not be ideal for every amp. I haven't found a pedal that can beat it yet. It makes my amp sound like a Marshall or even a Mesa. It keeps the guitar's natural tone intact. I tried plenty of Boss and Ibanez pedals wich will sound epic over a big Marshall stack but just don't seem to work with my Fender. The Tube Factor sounds huge on the Fender. The muddyness is a recording fault, I should have miced the amp's speaker as well.
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oh right so it actually has pretty tight bass, good for tight chuggy metal stuff and do squeals come out easy? I cant find any for cheap, they are about £199 ish here I think which sucks
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I have it on a scooped mid setting for big bass. Tightness and squeels are mostly the pickup. Try to find a used one.