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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: cakehead on July 23, 2006, 04:04:18 PM

Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: cakehead on July 23, 2006, 04:04:18 PM
Hey I made these clips ages ago on a £3 mic from GAME through guitar tracks pro. So the recording quality is not the best! but ok! Tell me what you think, the guitar is an Ibanez rg550ex with the warpig used in bridge position. I just made up this random riff with powerchords to try and show the gain and metal palm mutes all that kind of stuff etc. One clips is of the Engl screamer 50 combo, and the other the mesa nomad 55 combo (which I had on loan for a few days) both on the highest gain setting. I also had them about the same volume (not too loud though!) and the mesa is a lot queiter on the recording for some reason? Tell me your thoughts on both amps!! I've also made a poll to see how many people prefer each one.

OK ive just tried to attatch my clips into the wrong forum so I'll just delete that, cheers for pointing that out to me!!
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: cakehead on July 23, 2006, 04:08:46 PM
OK for some reason You have to download this to your computer (or I do anyway) so just do that if you want a listen
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 23, 2006, 04:34:02 PM
Very nice clips there! I like this idea that we get to chose which tone we like better. Personally, I think the Engl reigns supreme over the Mesa! :P
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 23, 2006, 06:41:58 PM
Sounds better through the Engl.

You would need a better mic for a proper comparison.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Peter Antal on July 23, 2006, 06:47:20 PM
The Engl owns the Mesa. Cool, very brutal sound! :twisted:
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: chrisola on July 23, 2006, 07:08:02 PM
ahh ENGL strikes again 8)
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: hunter on July 23, 2006, 07:27:26 PM
I have an ENGL myself and know it inside out. I would give less Presence, a tad less treble and more mids.

But still miles better than the nomad. Mesa is cr@p anyway, i don't understand all the hype ...
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: deg0ey on July 23, 2006, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Peter Antal
The Engl owns the Mesa.


ENGL owns everything :P
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on July 23, 2006, 10:52:19 PM
in my own opinion, both tracks need a little mor tweak in the distortion department.
but i preffer the engl.
did you check your guitar to see if it´s tuned? seems like the G or D string is out of tune.
the engl clip is better in my opinion
Q:)
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: deg0ey on July 23, 2006, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: Peter Antal
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: Peter Antal
The Engl owns the Mesa.
ENGL owns everything :P

Diezel owns Engl :twisted:  :wink:


I wouldn't know, but for value for money ENGL  owns everything :drink:
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: cakehead on July 24, 2006, 12:43:49 AM
Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
in my own opinion, both tracks need a little mor tweak in the distortion department.
but i preffer the engl.
did you check your guitar to see if it´s tuned? seems like the G or D string is out of tune.
the engl clip is better in my opinion
Q:)


Yeah, the clips arent the best obviously through a £3 mic. I didn't see the point in tweaking them to just put them through that, I made that clip as soon as I got the Engl with a pretty flat EQ. I'll try and post some more up and you can tell me if I need more bass etc

And nah, my guitar wouldn't be out of tune! I bent the strings slightly at some points for that kind of effect though, I thought it was cool at the time haha
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Tricalibur on July 24, 2006, 01:03:20 AM
gah dang. That Engl absolutely crushes.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on July 24, 2006, 04:39:43 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
UNDERSTOOD MAN
thank´s for the answer
Q:p
I´ll wait for the clips
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Peter Antal on July 24, 2006, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: Peter Antal
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: Peter Antal
The Engl owns the Mesa.
ENGL owns everything :P

Diezel owns Engl :twisted:  :wink:

I wouldn't know, but for value for money ENGL  owns everything :drink:

Agreed. :drink:
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: maliciousteve on July 24, 2006, 11:26:09 AM
I think with a bit more gain the Mesa would of owned the ENGL. I thought the Screamer sounded a little too bright but had the right amount of gain.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Muso on July 24, 2006, 03:36:20 PM
I go against the grain here and say the Engl sounds a bit too harsh, there too much bass on the Mesa tho. I must say Im amazed youre comparing two relatively expensive amps using a £3 mic
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 24, 2006, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Muso
I go against the grain here and say the Engl sounds a bit too harsh, there too much bass on the Mesa tho. I must say Im amazed youre comparing two relatively expensive amps using a £3 mic


Haha, yeah i was about to say the same thing, cheapskate :P
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: cakehead on July 24, 2006, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Quote from: Muso
I go against the grain here and say the Engl sounds a bit too harsh, there too much bass on the Mesa tho. I must say Im amazed youre comparing two relatively expensive amps using a £3 mic


Haha, yeah i was about to say the same thing, cheapskate :P


....shut it....£3 mic from game is amazing! :evil:
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 24, 2006, 10:35:52 PM
^It actually is!
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: Ratrod on July 25, 2006, 06:13:40 PM
The Engl sounded way better IMHO; smoother mids, more articulate.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: LiamH on August 06, 2006, 04:19:17 PM
I preferred the mesa: the engl sounded a bit derivative "digital studio thrash" to me whereas the mesa had a more "sabbath on vinyl feel".

However, the more likely explanation is that I have no idea what I am talking about.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 06, 2006, 09:58:58 PM
I liked the Mesa's tone more but there wasn't enough gain imo.

The Engl sounded thin in the mids to me (reminded me of Anthrax's ATL tone, urgh!)

 :twisted:
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on August 06, 2006, 10:54:49 PM
The Engl clip sounds better but the Mesa really just sounded like it was EQ'ed and mic'ed wrong.
Title: Mesa and Engl Warpig clips!
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 03:04:54 AM
Quote from: LiamH
However, the more likely explanation is that I have no idea what I am talking about.


brilliant, thas goin on my sig :P