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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Muttley on July 26, 2006, 11:15:31 AM

Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 26, 2006, 11:15:31 AM
This one in particular: http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=59

That black cherry finish looks gorgeous, and I've heard good things about Schecter guitars.

Anyone tried one of these?

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: n_mountain on July 26, 2006, 11:22:20 AM
I have the 6-string blackjack version and it is very nice. Sounds good (yes even with SDs ;)), playability is good and not too expensive.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: maliciousteve on July 26, 2006, 12:12:56 PM
My 7 string is up for sale on ebay if you're really interested in getting one.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 26, 2006, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: maliciousteve
My 7 string is up for sale on ebay if you're really interested in getting one.


What is it (auction  ID)?
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: maliciousteve on July 26, 2006, 12:33:23 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&item=280011644353&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

here you are mate
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 26, 2006, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: maliciousteve
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&item=280011644353&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

here you are mate


Ta.  I really want a fixed bridge though, and I don't really like white guitars personally.  :)

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 26, 2006, 01:21:33 PM
Check out an RG7321, fixed bridge, black, 5pc wizard neck!

Perfect 7 string.

http://www.machinehead.co.uk/images/ibanez-jpg/rg7321lg.jpg

Or if the fixed bridge is not a necessity, then go more upmarket into the Ibanez prestige series and get the RG1527, same look as the one above really except has an edge pro trem, but has a lot of professional features.

http://www.machinehead.co.uk/images/ibanez-jpg/rg1527-lg.jpg
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on July 26, 2006, 02:07:27 PM
I'd really like a 7 string. The problem with Shecter is they have an exclusive deal with Sound Control, and they only have the C7 blackjack and the Omen 7 (serious cheapo model) , and apparently aren't that interested in ordering for customers.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 26, 2006, 02:32:27 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
I'd really like a 7 string. The problem with Shecter is they have an exclusive deal with Sound Control, and they only have the C7 blackjack and the Omen 7 (serious cheapo model) , and apparently aren't that interested in ordering for customers.


If I decide to go ahead and that happens I will phone Schecter directly and explain exactly why I'm having difficulty buying one of their guitars.  I'm pretty sure they'd be interested in asking Sound Control exactly why they are turning away potential customers.  ;)

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 26, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
I had that thought a while back - the "I really want a 7 string" theory...

So, after much deliberation I saw a 7 string Epiphone Les Paul on ebay for £200 and decided I should buy it just for the cool factor. I originally thought 7 strings were a great idea, what with the fact that the 7th string could be ignored when I wanted to use it as a 6 string.

So, £200 and 9 months later and I hardly ever use it. It's just sitting and gathering dust most of the time. One reason is that the pickups are shitee (can't afford BK's), but it's really not as useul as I first thought.

The thing you need to realise is that it's like learning a whole new instrument with the different chord shapes or whatever
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: maliciousteve on July 26, 2006, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: deg0ey
I had that thought a while back - the "I really want a 7 string" theory...

So, after much deliberation I saw a 7 string Epiphone Les Paul on ebay for £200 and decided I should buy it just for the cool factor. I originally thought 7 strings were a great idea, what with the fact that the 7th string could be ignored when I wanted to use it as a 6 string.

So, £200 and 9 months later and I hardly ever use it. It's just sitting and gathering dust most of the time. One reason is that the pickups are shitee (can't afford BK's), but it's really not as useul as I first thought.

The thing you need to realise is that it's like learning a whole new instrument with the different chord shapes or whatever


It's really not hard. All you have to do is get used to the intervals on the Low B string and it's just like playing a regular 7 string.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 26, 2006, 08:09:54 PM
Lol yeah I think I overstated the learning it thing - it's not that difficult, but I never found it as useful as I thought it would be

Maybe it's just me, but all I was trying to say was that Muttley should consider how much he's actually going to use it before spending the cash...
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: lepersmeesa on July 26, 2006, 08:29:50 PM
I have a 7 string. A RG 7321 with nailbomb in the bridge and a cold sweat in the neck.

I really like 7 strings and would recommend you to try them out. But do try them out before you get one. I wouldnt recommend an Epiphone 7 string as the scale length isnt what you want for the low B.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: maliciousteve on July 26, 2006, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: deg0ey
Lol yeah I think I overstated the learning it thing - it's not that difficult, but I never found it as useful as I thought it would be

Maybe it's just me, but all I was trying to say was that Muttley should consider how much he's actually going to use it before spending the cash...


Sensible idea. I thought i would use it alot, but i just keep using 6 strings so now i'm having trouble trying to sell mine,
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 26, 2006, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: lepersmeesa
I wouldnt recommend an Epiphone 7 string as the scale length isnt what you want for the low B.


I have to agree with that one - I've got a bass string as my 7th to make up for it
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on July 26, 2006, 09:22:40 PM
7 strings are for wimps  :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WigREN4iUu4&search=rusty%20cooley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Phantom_Orchestra on July 27, 2006, 07:33:47 AM
I would go for th Yamaha AES-RS7, i have the AES-AD6 (6 string), and the guitar is truly is amazing, great design, always in tune, and a tone all its own. I cant say enough about them



http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%253D60017%2526CTID%253D600012,00.html
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 27, 2006, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: Phantom_Orchestra
I would go for th Yamaha AES-RS7, i have the AES-AD6 (6 string), and the guitar is truly is amazing, great design, always in tune, and a tone all its own. I cant say enough about them



http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%253D60017%2526CTID%253D600012,00.html


The downside of those are:

1) Only one pickup
2) Farking ugly looking
3) See 2.

;)

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 27, 2006, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Check out an RG7321, fixed bridge, black, 5pc wizard neck!

Perfect 7 string.

http://www.machinehead.co.uk/images/ibanez-jpg/rg7321lg.jpg

Or if the fixed bridge is not a necessity, then go more upmarket into the Ibanez prestige series and get the RG1527, same look as the one above really except has an edge pro trem, but has a lot of professional features.

http://www.machinehead.co.uk/images/ibanez-jpg/rg1527-lg.jpg


I already have an Ibanez (JEM7BSB), so I'd like to get something a bit different really.

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: n_mountain on July 27, 2006, 09:43:47 AM
How much would you like to spend?
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 27, 2006, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: n_mountain
How much would you like to spend?


Probably around £600.  But if I saw something I really liked that cost more I'd just have to do a bit of saving first.

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: genocidal tendencies on July 27, 2006, 10:03:45 AM
Haven't played one myself, but have you considered a maverick? I've heard a lot of good things about them recently.

http://www.guitarpeddler.co.uk/acatalog/Maverick_Guitars.html

The species 7 string is £450, which means if you stretch to £650 or so you can BK it.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 27, 2006, 10:50:59 AM
The maverick X series look quite nice - like an explorer but cooler...But the rest of them look horrible imo

I like the look of the Schecter Omen 7, but I've never played one which doesn't help...The LTD 7 strings might be worth a look, but again I've not played them
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on July 27, 2006, 11:07:20 AM
I played a Macerick X1 recently and it was really nice, but the neck seemed ridiculously long for some reason  :?
 The Species 7 looks quite cool for a 7 really as it's somewhat understated and has no unecessary bells and whistles (always a plus IMO).
 If you want something really different from an Ibanez then you can still find the Dean Evo 7 at some places
http://www.singingchicken.co.uk/item5020.htm
The guys on the Dean forum speak pretty highly of it, but image wise it's not really what you think of when you think 7 string (but that does give it it's own coolness).
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Ratrod on July 29, 2006, 12:42:37 PM
Why not go for a baritone? Six strings is all you need.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on July 29, 2006, 11:03:47 PM
I think it depends on how you view a seven string really. If you just view it as a way to get low end chug, then a baritone is probably better, but if you want a guitar that gives you low end chug WITHOUT losing high end, that allows you to play your standard chord voicings , along with extended scales and arpeggios in one position, then it's a useful instrument
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 29, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
In my opinion, 7 strings are incredibly versatile - in theory. In practise I've found the neck too thick to do much but chug away at it, as the strings are further apart so it's even harder to play as a 6 string...and for that reason mine is still sat on the shelf (well not a shelf, but you get the idea).

I thought I'd use it a lot when I got it, but I don't...But actually now I think about it, the biggest reason I don't use it is the cheap epiphone pickups :lol: Unfortunately I can't afford BKs for it right now, but the stock pickups are really weak - and you can hardly hear the bridge pickup at all - not the best on a guitar made for chugging :P
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: blue on July 30, 2006, 05:19:00 AM
i have a seven string, and the thing that has surprised me most about it is that it's really good for finger picking!  i use it for most of my fingerstyle playing.  it also has a great sound for funk rhythm guitar.  i think it's a pity that most 7 strings seem biased towards metal, as there are a lot more possibilities there.

i would actually agree that if metal riffing is your aim, a baritone 6 string would be better, although they also sound fantasic at surf music!  someone has to make a 7 string telecaster.  or maybe a 7 string gretch?
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Muttley on July 30, 2006, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
I think it depends on how you view a seven string really. If you just view it as a way to get low end chug, then a baritone is probably better, but if you want a guitar that gives you low end chug WITHOUT losing high end, that allows you to play your standard chord voicings , along with extended scales and arpeggios in one position, then it's a useful instrument


That pretty much sums up exactly what I'm hoping to use it for.  :)

Muttley
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Ratrod on July 30, 2006, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: blue
someone has to make a 7 string telecaster.  or maybe a 7 string gretch?


You mean like this one?

(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/CVGA/1500541/photo1_af1b4.jpg)

http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=1500541
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on July 30, 2006, 12:19:19 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
Quote from: blue
You mean like this one?


I think he does :lol:
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: blue on July 30, 2006, 05:20:10 PM
indeed i do!  that looks great, but imagine it probably costs about three grand!
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 01, 2006, 03:46:12 PM
Degoey, the problem with a lot of 7 strings is that a lot of companies jumped on the bandwagon during the Nu-metal craze. The Les Paul is simply not suited to 7 strings. The shapes wrong and the neck is too thick.
 If they'd thought about what they were doing and maybe done an SG with a shallow neck then it may have been more successful, instead of disappearing without a trace like the LP 7 string. As a bit of a no-brainer, the LP is well suited to baritone set up, and the LP baritones they brought out were much better received.
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on August 01, 2006, 08:14:08 PM
I guess so, but I wouldn't have bought the Les Paul at all had it only had 6 strings as I think they are vastly overrated, and quite ugly - but I liked the 7 string as I can now say I have a 7 string Les Paul. Which is just cool :lol:
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 02, 2006, 09:38:18 AM
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I wouldn't have bought the Les Paul at all had it only had 6 strings as I think they are vastly overrated, and quite ugly

Philistine  :roll:  :wink:
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: deg0ey on August 03, 2006, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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I wouldn't have bought the Les Paul at all had it only had 6 strings as I think they are vastly overrated, and quite ugly

Philistine  :roll:  :wink:


I don't know what that means, so I'm just going to agree with it :drink:
Title: Seriously Tempted To Get A 7-String
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 03, 2006, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: Sifu Ben
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I wouldn't have bought the Les Paul at all had it only had 6 strings as I think they are vastly overrated, and quite ugly

Philistine  :roll:  :wink:


I don't know what that means, so I'm just going to agree with it :drink:

 Dude, you REALLY need to read more
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philistine