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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: sam123abc on July 29, 2006, 10:57:33 PM

Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: sam123abc on July 29, 2006, 10:57:33 PM
i have heard on the bkp forums that a 4 way switch on a telecaster can make it so much more versatile i was just wondering if any one knows how to do this and could please provide some helpful information :wink:

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Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: deg0ey on July 29, 2006, 11:53:03 PM
Well, Mr 38th is often heard on a lazy sunday afternoon recommending this switching method to anyone who will listen: maybe he has instructions on how to do it too :)
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 30, 2006, 12:51:45 AM
Actually I have never heard of that particular modification  :lol: only joshing. I cannot tell you how to do it though there was a recent thread where, I beleive, the wiring was described. Well worth having as you get the three standard Tele arrangement i.e. bridge only, bridge and neck in parallel, neck only plus bridge and neck in series. In fact I have just got back from a gig where my Tele did the business ( witha bit of help from me) and the tone on the latter is just wonderful- particularly if you get BKPs. Phil, Jonathan and/or Ron will be able to give the techy stuff- I am a little , ahem, merry.
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: PhilKing on July 30, 2006, 12:06:07 PM
This is the diagram you need:

http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUSS4L1101
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on July 31, 2006, 07:39:45 PM
I'm just after building a tele, and i have put in a 4 way switch, and i got the diagram from here-> http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/pdf/tele_4-way_diagram.pdf this site can make them for you if you want and they use great quality stuff. i'm just waiting for my neck to come so i can see if it works or not. there is a f**kload of hummmmmm coming from it so i'm pretty optimistic about it working! :?
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: deg0ey on July 31, 2006, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: daveirl1
there is a f**kload of hummmmmm coming from it so i'm pretty optimistic about it working! :?


Is it just me or is that a contradictory sentence?
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 01, 2006, 12:22:34 PM
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: daveirl1
there is a f**kload of hummmmmm coming from it so i'm pretty optimistic about it working! :?


Is it just me or is that a contradictory sentence?


lol yeh, unless he was bein sarcastic ....
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on August 01, 2006, 01:01:08 PM
i didn't have my neck for my tele when i plugged it into the amp so i couldn't hear what it sounded like, but i could hear a load of hum. i got my neck today, i strung it up, but there is hardly any sound coming from the guitar, and the hum is terrible. so it doesn't work!
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: deg0ey on August 01, 2006, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: CaffeineJunkie
Quote from: deg0ey
Quote from: daveirl1
there is a f**kload of hummmmmm coming from it so i'm pretty optimistic about it working! :?


Is it just me or is that a contradictory sentence?


lol yeh, unless he was bein sarcastic ....


Internet Sarcasm is lost on me - I don't get it without the tone of voice :P
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: PhilKing on August 02, 2006, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: daveirl1
i didn't have my neck for my tele when i plugged it into the amp so i couldn't hear what it sounded like, but i could hear a load of hum. i got my neck today, i strung it up, but there is hardly any sound coming from the guitar, and the hum is terrible. so it doesn't work!


Just unsolder everything, and check the wires, make sure you have the ground constant all the way from the jack and use a star pattern ground (solder all grounds to the back of the volume pot - and just take one to the tone and bridge).
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on August 02, 2006, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
Quote from: daveirl1
i didn't have my neck for my tele when i plugged it into the amp so i couldn't hear what it sounded like, but i could hear a load of hum. i got my neck today, i strung it up, but there is hardly any sound coming from the guitar, and the hum is terrible. so it doesn't work!


Just unsolder everything, and check the wires, make sure you have the ground constant all the way from the jack and use a star pattern ground (solder all grounds to the back of the volume pot - and just take one to the tone and bridge).


see, i'm not the best with the wiring lingo, so i can't really understand what   "have the ground constant all the way from the jack and use a star pattern ground (solder all grounds to the back of the volume pot - and just take one to the tone and bridge)" means, any way you could explain it clearer?
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on August 02, 2006, 03:56:06 PM
i did it, it's fixed!
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: PhilKing on August 02, 2006, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: daveirl1
i did it, it's fixed!


Great.  I guess you worked it out.  One thing that can cause hums is a ground loop, so if there is more than one way for the ground to get to the jack, it can give you a problem.  Using a star pattern means bringing eveything to one point, and just having one wire to each thing that needs to be grounded from this central point.
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on August 02, 2006, 06:45:54 PM
these are my first bkps, they sound so good!!! they definitely won't be the last. the cb's really have the tele twang alright, sound like a 50's or 60's tele! but it still has enough power to get great overdrive and dist, and the neck pickup, it's real jazzy, great for funk! :D  :D  :D  :D  :D !!!!!!!!
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 02, 2006, 07:56:37 PM
cb's are brilliant aren't that- and that 4th position is wonderful.
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: daveirl1 on August 02, 2006, 08:57:32 PM
without a doubt, the neck is so smooth, and the bridge has a better tele "twang" than the (way) upmarket teles, and when you kick it into 4th, it's gives it a extra (lot) bit of umph, drive amps hard, the ultimate tele mod! (still has the twang though), when i put it through my guv'nor (black one from the 80's) it sound nearly dead on to the clash. thrashy without being slutty!
Title: 4way switching digaram ((tele))
Post by: sam123abc on August 09, 2006, 12:06:54 PM
hey thanks guys sorry for the slow reply my computer went down on me for a little while but its all good now  :D im deffinately going to put a 4 way switch in my tele now thanks alot