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Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 02:43:41 AM

i know the cold sweat has a ceramic bridge and the rebel yell has A5, but tonally what's the difference between them? (i.e. which has more bass, or more treble etc.)



Cheers

CJ

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 07, 2006, 03:28:06 AM

They are not too far apart tonally, but the Cold Sweat has more lower midrange and bit less output in the upper frequencies. (In the 'air' range, I would say above 7.5kHz)

The Cold Sweat is very 'driving', whereas the Rebel Yell is more 'revealing', and has a bit more in the harmonics department.

If I were to compare the two to blades, the Rebel Yell is a rapier (quick and incisive) and the Cold Sweat is a broad sword (heavier and more crushing).

I would lean towards the Rebel Yell for a single-guitar band rock setting, and the Cold Sweat for metal (especially if you're looking for a heavy NWOBHM tone).

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 03:33:01 AM

kool, so for more treble related stuff the rebel yell is best suited??

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Philly Q on August 07, 2006, 10:58:13 AM

I was trying to decide between those same two pickups just recently.  

Tim told me that the CS would be "thick sounding" in a Les Paul but recommended the RY.  He says its "brighter and tighter than a Crawler", so I assume it's also brighter than the CS.

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 12:48:09 PM

kewl, which dya think would be able to get closest to the muse-y sort of sound?? or would i need to look into a nailbomb for that??

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Jonesy on August 07, 2006, 01:03:40 PM

I reckon a Rebel yell could work quite nicely for Muse, especialy the older stuff (showbiz)...his tones always been quite harsh and biting (not that the RB would be harh of course)

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 01:06:33 PM

i was thinking of the tone in New Born actually, particularly the crunchy part when he kicks in the fuzz factory after the piano part

dya think id be able to get that from the RY???

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 07, 2006, 01:26:44 PM

At that time he was using a Rio Grande Crunchbox, which could probably be imitated by either a Rebel Yell or a Nailbomb.
 Just checked the specs for the crunchbox (RG have a less than organic site layout), and apparently it's a 16K ceramic pickup. I don't think it matters though, heavy strings, drop D and large amounts of fuzz are all equally important in that sound anyway.

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 02:17:32 PM

so what are the differences between the NB and the RY???

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Jonesy on August 07, 2006, 03:59:57 PM

Well the Nailbomb has an aggresive tone...lots of grind and a nice mid frequency push...I cant realy cooment on the RY having never heard it.

Im a big fan of Muse and have a Nailbomb in th eBridge of an RG type guitar...from the descriptions of the Rebel Yell in the past...id recomend the Nailbomb

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 04:00:56 PM

kool, thas that sorted for the bridge, what does the neck NB sound like??

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Dave Simpson on August 07, 2006, 04:37:52 PM

Nailbomb neck is very cool, especially if you go with a calibrated set. :twisted:

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 04:39:58 PM

Quote from: Dave Simpson

Nailbomb neck is very cool

i have to admit, that is one of the best descriptions of the sound something makes i have ever seen

(i was kinda after what it sounds like, primarily because ALL BKPs are kool)

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Dave Simpson on August 07, 2006, 04:46:21 PM

I'm a man of few words, what can I say. :wink:

It's like all the Bare Knuckle neck pickups, excellent!

Oh, you want a tonal description then? :oops:  It's very smooth, not muddy at all. Very articulate, excellent note definition. A good pairing with the aggressive tone of the bridge pickup.

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 04:47:35 PM

kewl, looks like i'm set on the calibrated Nailbombs then, now the hard part....money :(

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Dave Simpson on August 07, 2006, 04:49:02 PM

Time to sell some blood! :P

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: blue on August 07, 2006, 04:59:38 PM

if you're really after matt bellamy's sound you should probably have a mississippi queen at the neck, which works particularly well with fuzz by the way

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 05:02:48 PM

yeh but i already have that in my LP, and its goin in my OLP, which REALLY shouldn't have any covers anywhere near it so....

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 05:03:55 PM

Quote from: Dave Simpson

Time to sell some blood! :P

nobody would want my blood, the amount of caffeine in it easily surpasses the level of red blood cells

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Dave Simpson on August 07, 2006, 05:53:24 PM

Maybe you can bottle it and sell it as an energy drink then. 8)

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Philly Q on August 07, 2006, 08:35:45 PM

I don't think you can sell blood in the UK.  Unless mine's such poor quality they won't pay for it.

Maybe you could volunteer for medical experimentation.

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 07, 2006, 08:49:13 PM

Quote from: Philly Q

Maybe you could volunteer for medical experimentation.

i doubt if they'd take me

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Jonesy on August 07, 2006, 09:18:03 PM

Sell your sole on Ebay 8)

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: _tom_ on August 07, 2006, 09:25:14 PM

Quote from: Jonesy

Sell your sole on Ebay 8)

Why not sell the whole shoe  :roll:

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Jonesy on August 07, 2006, 09:26:44 PM

I was goin to but their way out of date




(soul :wink: )

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: Peter Antal on August 07, 2006, 11:49:01 PM

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

kool, thas that sorted for the bridge, what does the neck NB sound like??

According to Tim it's "modern rock lead". So it should be rather smooth with a good amount of mids and bass but excellent articulation. It is probably more sensitive and open sounding than a Cold Sweat neck for instance, which is rather a "shred pickup", if we call the NB neck "modern rock lead".

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on August 08, 2006, 01:16:14 AM

Quote from: Peter Antal

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

kool, thas that sorted for the bridge, what does the neck NB sound like??

According to Tim it's "modern rock lead". So it should be rather smooth with a good amount of mids and bass but excellent articulation. It is probably more sensitive and open sounding than a Cold Sweat neck for instance, which is rather a "shred pickup", if we call the NB neck "modern rock lead".

this man knows how to describe a pickup :D

Title: differences between cold sweat and rebel yell bridge
Post by: downrodeo on August 08, 2006, 07:53:54 PM

Quote

this man knows how to describe a pickup

Hey, he makes them and plays them all!