Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: LiamH on August 19, 2006, 12:32:27 AM
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what will be the collectable,vintage effects worth collecting. I had a tube screamer way back when in the 1980's....who would have thought.
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I think many of the special edition and early production Zvex effects will be very collectable. I'm still gasing for a Fuzz-Probe 8)
Buy one of the pedals I make and take a chance :wink: :lol:
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I had a look at Zvex, but all I can say is that I need to be stoned to follow the site.....ok any excuse....
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The Lovepedal Eternity is getting more and more expensive. It might become the new Klon Centaur, it's THAT expensive and rather exotic...
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Those handmade Wez Venables guitars are sure to be highly collectable. The ones before the factory was opened and quality control went downhill
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Dunno about in 10 years time..
...maybe my Mesa VTwin might. I hear a lot of people moan about them but I've never had a problem with them, actually I quite like it! 8)
I'd say Danelectro as I've found them to be really good, wish I had more. :?
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Those handmade Wez Venables guitars are sure to be highly collectable. The ones before the factory was opened and quality control went downhill
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LOL they sure look sick! i'd like one
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Dunno about in 10 years time..
...maybe my Mesa VTwin might. I hear a lot of people moan about them but I've never had a problem with them, actually I quite like it! 8)
I'd say Danelectro as I've found them to be really good, wish I had more. :?
my v-twin aint bad, although the voicing sounds a bit standard/boring/generic. Don't use it that often anymore
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Dunno about in 10 years time..
...maybe my Mesa VTwin might. I hear a lot of people moan about them but I've never had a problem with them, actually I quite like it! 8)
I'd say Danelectro as I've found them to be really good, wish I had more. :?
my v-twin aint bad, although the voicing sounds a bit standard/boring/generic. Don't use it that often anymore
Suppose it depends on how you use it and what you use it with? (Like all things) I have noticed a lot of people say its "cr@p" even though they havent actually tried one. :? :roll:
I've used mine for higain and mostly on HBs. Single coils dont sound too good, though I have found a couple of cool sounds with the strat. :D
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5150s. The originals have already gained a bit of resale value since the introduction of the 6505 series, but I can imagine them becoming much more valuable in a few years as a LOT of bands/artists have used them to create definitive tones.
Blackmachine guitars. They are a relatively new company, but they make great guitars. Already some influential players are starting to use them. I'd give it a matter of time before the company gets a higher profile and people find reasons to say that the older ones are better than the 'new' ones.
Bareknuckle pickup prototypes will probably fetch a LOT of money when the timing is right as the companies reputation and profile are getting better and better... If BKP ever discontinue a pickup, I'm sure that particular model will command a high price too.
Thats my views anyway.
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Kingsley amps are already more popular than when I discovered them a couple of years ago. They're not cheap as it is, but as the demand rises I'm sure they'll be even more pricey.
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American-made Seymour Duncans of any vintage will be worth serious money, after SD moves its production to the Far East.
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Anything that the latest hot-shot in 10 years plays will become collectible. Look at Strats before Hendrix and LPs before Clapton.
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I think some Danelectro pedals will be quite collectable in ten years from now.
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I think that these pedals will be worth a fortune! www.effector13.com
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I also prededict that JJ guitars will be worth huge amounts of money in 10 years! as they only make them in thousands, mine is number 2117 of the now discontinued JJ Retro. check this, www.jjguitars.com
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Probably none because modelling has advanced to a level where the analog stuff is in real disadvantage and the digital stuff exceeds the pedals in tonal complexity, dynamics, warmth and punch.
So those pedals would only be needed by those who adapt them by writing the algorithms for the modelers.
10 years is a long time in technology, you never know ...
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10 years is a long time in technology, you never know ...
And yet guitar electronics have not changed a bit since the first time someone put a pickup in a guitar 70 odd years ago.
Systems like the variax guitars will come and go and do there job admirably (or not), but as long as they are based on imitating something else people and collectors will always value the original thing higher.
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I also prededict that JJ guitars will be worth huge amounts of money in 10 years! as they only make them in thousands, mine is number 2117 of the now discontinued JJ Retro. check this, www.jjguitars.com
Those Retros are freakin' awesome! Wow!
See sig. ;)
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A zoom 505 that isn't broken and hasn't been through six different pawnshops will be the thing to have.
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Probably none because modelling has advanced to a level where the analog stuff is in real disadvantage and the digital stuff exceeds the pedals in tonal complexity, dynamics, warmth and punch.
dunno, a mesa boogie head is not digital, or a Cornford Harlequin amp isn't. I'd rather use the real thing over a digital simulation any day, the digital simulations are still not quite up to scratch compared to a REAL sound. I try to avoid digital simulations generally. I mean come on, can a digital effect emulate the sound of a real Peavey 5150 perfectly? not in my books. besides you can mic it up however you want, and use any cab with any speakers in real life, there's always limits in the digital world.
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If BKP ever discontinue a pickup, I'm sure that particular model will command a high price too.
Possibly the old Holy Diver falls into that category - I have the new version unfortunately (fortunately in that respect, fortunately because it probably sounds better :P )
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I reckon the Bad Monkey - it already has cult following - all it would take is for Digitech to discontinue it.
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Anything that the latest hot-shot in 10 years plays will become collectible. Look at Strats before Hendrix and LPs before Clapton.
This is so true; the main reason anything becomes expensive is because lots of people desire it. And why do people desire it? Not always just because of an item's quality, but because of who uses it. This is, after all, the way many people come into contact with pieces of gear. I can't think of a piece of gear that has become 'legendary' that hasn't had a legendary player synonymous with it.
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That's my point exactly. You need the gear AND the player to make it legendary. Gear on its own isn't enough.
Plus the right player can make cr*p gear legendary too. Plywood Mosrites and Kurt Cobain being a prime example.
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If BKP ever discontinue a pickup, I'm sure that particular model will command a high price too.
Possibly the old Holy Diver falls into that category - I have the new version unfortunately (fortunately in that respect, fortunately because it probably sounds better :P )
The old Holy Diver was very nice - closer to the Rebel Yell in some ways although it had a ceramic magnet in the bridge and an alnico in the neck.
Good for 80s powerchord rock with a loud crunchy Marshall.
The new one has a higher output and has a bit more authority.
The old one was how the 80s really were and the new one is how we chose to fondly remember them.
Seriously though - the Rebel Yell is just so good for that sound anyway - I love it
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Wish I had hung on to some of my gear.....
Guitars:
1966 Fender Tele (not pre CBS unfortunately)
Swapped for a 1964 Gibson SG Standard.
Amps:
50 watt Marshall Plexi with single 8x10" (pinstripe) cabinet (have n't seen many of these since) Found this example (http://www.jamesbyrd.com/amps.htm)
Replaced with 100 watt Marshall Plexi and two 4x12" (pinstripe) cabs.
Replaced head with Orange Matamp OR100.
Got married - wife didn't think a 100 watt stack was attractive in the Lounge so ended up with various combos which she could hide in a cupboard.
The pic (damaged by flood in garage!) shows the Matamp on top of the Marshall stack with the SG.
Still have the SG but am too embarassed to use it in public :oops: It originally looked exactly like my avatar. When I got it it had several dings but was OK. Didn't come with a case so I used to carry it around in a plastic bag :roll: . Unfortunately when I was putting it in the back of the van one day I let it drop and it succombed to the dreaded early SG neck break. As guitar luthiers in rural Devon at that time were as numerous as rocking horse s**t and we had a gig the next day I repaired it myself with the help of our singer who worked in engineering. We forced as much glue as we could in the crack and replaced the plastic cover between the neck and the pickup with a metal plate through which two small bolts passed - these went through to the back of the guitar and were fixed with a nut and washer. So it appears I have got a unique SG with a semi fixed/bolt on neck. Made my own case for it - unfortunately didn't have it in this when my 100watt Plexi fell off the top of the stack onto it - good news was it missed the neck but hit the bottom left hand side and completely broke the 4 control section away from the guitar. More glue and decided it needed a refinish to cover up the glue/crack marks - stripped what was left of the cherry finish off, took all the hardware off, masked the fretboard, hung it from the light fitting in my parent's Lounge and sprayed it with a tin of white car paint. (Eat your heart out Feline :lol: ). Mum had trouble for weeks after trying to remove what she thought was dust from the funiture. Didn't like the white finish so a few weeks later I hand painted it with a tin of Woolworths black polyurethane. To add insult to injury I later added a DiMarzio Dual Sound humbucker and a brass bridge and nut. (..Ah.. I was so young, innocent and naive then..)
Have still got the original Pat No. pickups (which I'm hoping to get Tim to rewind), bridge and nut and would like to get it restored but unfortunately I'm never going to be able to replace the 1 - 2 mm of wood shaved off it when I refinished it.
(http://freespace.virgin.net/terry.tildesley/pics/Orange%20Marshall%20SG%20b.JPG)
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^hhahaha that must look so bad :lol:
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^hhahaha that must look so bad :lol:
Unbelievably it don't look too bad considering the butchering it has been through until you get up close and look at the neck repair :roll:
Here it is alongside my '62 SG Reissue (with Riff Raffs). Incidently the Reissue is not 100% accurate - the 'horns' on the original are longer and pointed (reissue has a 'chisel' shape) and the headstock on the original is narrower.
It's still playable and of great sentimental value to me. My son Adam says it's got a distinctive 'smell' (of sweat and smokey gigs) but he obviously liked it as he bought himself a black SG (nitro finish - not Woolworths polyurethane) and has a Nailbomb fitted to it. (Nice guitar too - for all you Gibson knockers - the new ones are not all cr@p)
(http://freespace.virgin.net/terry.tildesley/pics/SG1.jpg)
(http://freespace.virgin.net/terry.tildesley/pics/SG2.jpg)
(http://freespace.virgin.net/terry.tildesley/pics/SG3.jpg)
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Great story(a bit sad), nice guitars though. Think about it TellBoy in the end they were made to look & sound different, just the way we liked.
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That doesnt actually look as bad as I thought it was going to. You have a real relic'd guitar :D
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American-made Seymour Duncans of any vintage will be worth serious money, after SD moves its production to the Far East.
what he said.
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5150s. The originals have already gained a bit of resale value since the introduction of the 6505 series, but I can imagine them becoming much more valuable in a few years as a LOT of bands/artists have used them to create definitive tones.
Those amps are a dime a dozen. Check ebay.
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All I can say for sure is Marshall Silver Jubilee and 30th Anniversary heads..... and probably already rare stuff like the Jem 10th and DNY and some others like that.
Never really think about gear in terms of collectability. If it's not playable, it's no good to me anyway.