Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gingataff on August 19, 2006, 05:28:14 PM
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OK, for the last god knows how long I've used DiMarzio cliplock straps and have been happy but now I want something comfortable and durable and nice looking that doesn't need to be screwed onto the body!
What do you guys use and why?
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Levy 'boot leather' strap. Plain black, very tough but comfortable.
Schaeller strap locks. Easy to fit, better IMO than Dunlop as use a cradle system even if spring has issue. Also, pull pin to release (not push like Dunlop).
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Levy straps are good, i didn't know straps were so expensive till i went to the guitar shop and got one, cost me around 18 quid, that is rip off!
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I hated all the Levy ones I saw in Soundcontrol! What ever happened to gibson and fender? I wanted a decent fender strap for me strat and could I find one? B******s could I :(
The best strap I ever bought was a proper Gibson leather one for me Epi SG. Think it only cost a tenner. :D
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Once again I vote Levy's!
Just go for the no frills ones..
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For ultimate security you could do the 1/2" eye bolt and chain, ala Wylde man :twisted:
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i didn't know straps were so expensive till i went to the guitar shop and got one, cost me around 18 quid, that is rip off!
Check these (http://www.moodyleather.com/artist2.aspx), it's gone beyond a rip off and into more "obscene" territory! :lol:
Who would ever really wanna pay out that on a ritchie kotzen or Erik turner signature item anyway!
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Levy 'boot leather' strap. Plain black, very tough but comfortable.
Schaeller strap locks. Easy to fit, better IMO than Dunlop as use a cradle system even if spring has issue. Also, pull pin to release (not push like Dunlop).
+1 on the Schaeller locks, I have some cheap copies of em and they are good, never had any problems with em.
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I use these bad-boys... http://www.eldoradostraps.com/
Bought mine sometime in 1998 and it's still with me. It might have cost alot but it'll last a lifetime, is comfortable to wear and looks cool (imo).
:twisted:
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I use these bad-boys... http://www.eldoradostraps.com/
Bought mine sometime in 1998 and it's still with me. It might have cost alot but it'll last a lifetime, is comfortable to wear and looks cool (imo).
:twisted:
Oooh!Leather pickguards for a tele (http://www.eldoradostraps.com/pickguard.htm), Niiiiiiice! :)
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I use these bad-boys... http://www.eldoradostraps.com/
Bought mine sometime in 1998 and it's still with me. It might have cost alot but it'll last a lifetime, is comfortable to wear and looks cool (imo).
:twisted:
Oooh!Leather pickguards for a tele (http://www.eldoradostraps.com/pickguard.htm), Niiiiiiice! :)
yeehaa!!! yep, they've got that cowboy thang going on there. the guy who runs the show used to make rodeo saddles, the workmanship is top-drawer.
:twisted:
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yeehaa!!! yep, they've got that cowboy thang going on there. the guy who runs the show used to make rodeo saddles, the workmanship is top-drawer.
:twisted:
Yeah man, there's some amazing workmanship being displayed there, it was just after I made that post that I spotted the tele body completely encased in engraved leather, it's kinda nice but possibly a bit OTT, even for me! :lol:
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I have a flamey Levy strap, looks pretty cr@p though because it doesn't go with the guitar much.
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I have an ancient leather strap that I have had for many moons and it has never let me or my guitar down.I also use cheapo straps with thos cheapo little plastic gizmos that you put on the strap button and it locks the strap- they cost about £1.50 each and does the job.
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Levy 'boot leather' strap. Plain black, very tough but comfortable.
Schaeller strap locks. Easy to fit, better IMO than Dunlop as use a cradle system even if spring has issue. Also, pull pin to release (not push like Dunlop).
+1 on the Schaeller locks, I have some cheap copies of em and they are good, never had any problems with em.
The Schaller locks are good in some ways , but no so good in others
I like the pull to releasse rather than the push to release and the "horseshoe cradle on the strap bit seems like a good idea....BUT
We get to see a lot of guitars come in with broken headstocks or damage - in spite of using Schaller locks.
The main problem seems to be musicians not keeping a check on whether the nut that secures the strap to thelock is done up properly.
If it comes undone, the guitar is free to fall off the strap.
The Dunlop ones secure with a circlip= musician proof (as long as you ensure the lock is properly connected to the guitar
Also if you forget your strap with the schaller locks, you have to borrow a strap and theSchaller strap buttons are tiny! (OK - not as bad as the rather pathetic ones that Gibson still fit but still tiny all the same)
The Dunlop dual design button is much bigger
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Hmm I've never had that problem, my nuts have never come undone (:lol:).. If you have a problem with em coming loose a bit of threadlock, paint or glue is bound to hold it tight anyway. I know what you mean about the buttons being tiny though!
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I got a Planet Waves JS Designed strap at the LGS for a score. It's very snug over the buttons and has skeletons on it!
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(http://www.axesrus.com/Axestrinthg/lighting.jpg)
With my custom guitar I use the studded one on the left, got it from Axesurs.com - genuine leather I believe. For my Fender Strat I use the Fender one that came with it.
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Those straps are pure sex Bainzy!
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That Eldorado engraved stuff looks good.
Check out these wild straps: http://www.medinamade.com/
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I use one with a pic of homer simpson in his gruds doin air guitar an pulling a classic 'solo' face with 'professional air guitarist' written above him! :D
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Schaeller strap locks
+1 on the Schaeller locks
We get to see a lot of guitars come in with broken headstocks or damage - in spite of using Schaller locks.
The main problem seems to be musicians not keeping a check on whether the nut that secures the strap to thelock is done up properly.
If it comes undone, the guitar is free to fall off the strap.
I vote Schaller strap locks too. Use them on most of my guitars & have never dropped one.
The most likely cause of them falling off is people hand tightening the nut - there's not a huge amount of thread on it so if you only did it up with your fingernails, then it doesn't take a lot for it to loosen. After all, how many people even own a #13 spanner, let alone have one in their guitar case?
IMO, if you use the correct tool to fit it in the first place, it doesn't come off.
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I use one with a pic of homer simpson in his gruds doin air guitar an pulling a classic 'solo' face with 'professional air guitarist' written above him! :D
lol! i want it haha.
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I've recently discovered and started using straps by Eyeland Enterprises. They have a wide range of designs, from just well made, fine leather plain straps to others that are very intricate.
For the price they are much better than Levy's. The workmanship is top notch.
http://www.eyelandenterprises.com/
Also like Paul Minotaur straps. Have a couple and both have softened up nicely.
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We get to see a lot of guitars come in with broken headstocks or damage - in spite of using Schaller locks. The main problem seems to be musicians not keeping a check on whether the nut that secures the strap to thelock is done up properly. If it comes undone, the guitar is free to fall off the strap.
The most likely cause of them falling off is people hand tightening the nut - there's not a huge amount of thread on it so if you only did it up with your fingernails, then it doesn't take a lot for it to loosen. After all, how many people even own a #13 spanner, let alone have one in their guitar case?
IMO, if you use the correct tool to fit it in the first place, it doesn't come off.
Guilty as charged! :oops: I have Schaller strap-locks and never seem to be able to find the right tool to tighten the durned nut when I need it. So I end up tightening it with my fingers, and then it's just a matter of time until the locking bit swivels around on the strap whilst playing and tries to fall off :P
Do the Dunlop ones stay on better if you're a disorganized slacker who doesn't know where his gear is? :roll:
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hmm I have spanners that fit fine for the Schallers :? If you cant find one you could just use some pliers like I did and it still tightens it up..
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I prefer the dunlop system but aesthetically its a bit cr@p, it sticks out quite far compared to the schaller. On some guitars i have used the flush mount dunlops which are much better but obviously it means you have no standard strap buttons so you had better not loose the strap with the locking bits on.
Oh yeah, if your a gigging musician you should have a bag that you take to gigs (called a gig bag :wink: ) with things like spare leads, strings, batteries, gaffer tape (always comes in handy!!) and a few tools including an ADJUSTABLE SPANNER.
No excuses for broken headstocks, Be good Boy (or girl) scouts
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i'd vote for the dunlop system. no tools required, pretty much idiot proof. just clips into place then a quick button push to release. and of course you can still use any strap on the strap buttons. hell, the strap buttons are good even if you never use the locks!
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hey Gingataff im using a strap by a company called Neotech and the shoulder pad is made of neoprene this is the most comfortable strap I have ever had and I have a heavy Les Paul which used to give me shoulder problems ...........but not anymore this strap takes the weight no prob. Checkout www.neotechstraps.com
Hope that helps
cheers
keith
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Schaeller nuts dropping? lol
Truth is the hole in the Levy strap I have is sooooooooo tight the locking nut is not really needed, had to 'thread' the darn piece in itself.
Issue I have with Dunlop's (and is what is on my Les Paul right now) is an accidental nudge can push the pin in and release the lock.
To be honest the plastic strap locks and 'grolsh' rubber rings work great too!
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:? Wow, I can't believe that little bits of leather that you attach to your guitar could be so expensive... I mean, cows aren't exactly endangered... :P
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you've clearly not heard of the latest WWF movement....
they're trying to bring back as many of the cows and sheep as possible who were lost during the foot-and-mouth period, and therefore the cows and sheep have been labelled and 'mildly endangered' and should only ever be used as guitar straps if they look REALLY REALLY kool
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Sometimes I find the discussion like this a bit funny.... although it is typical of musician conversations:
I have a £1000 guitar and have just put £200 of new pickups in, but dont want to spend more than a tenner on a strap or gigbag.
Paying up to £30 or £40 for a comfortable strap that will be used every day and will last for years is not a poor investment.
Being completely comfy when you play is important and might allow you to focus more on the music you play.
There is nothing wrong with a cheaper strap as long as it is comfy and reliable.
Another conversation I used to tire of ending up in is trying to persuade a muso that spending £5 or £6 on a new set of strings to replace the knackered ones on their guitar was a good idea.
Especially when you know that they spend £30-£50 a night in the pub and god only knows what on drugs
A posh pair of trainers costs stupid money these days , and will be unfashionable by next year as will a pair of sunglasses
And dont even start me on what girlfriends will spend on clothes that they cant be seen in more than once
A good strap will serve you well and last a long time - find one that you really like
I rather liked the black and white one below for my Michael Schenker fixation:
(http://jodihead.com/images/straps/leather-duo.jpg)
http://jodihead.com/leather-studded-straps.html
Edit : Oops that was a bit of a rant
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I'd happily pay GBP 30 or so for a good strap -- I am reluctant to buy a strap that I can't actually see and touch, though. Some straps I just don't get on with, but worse than that, sometimes a picture of a strap looks nice, and the price promises quality, but then it doesn't turn out so well.
I have a fairly decent cloth-faced leather strap by Main Strap (or something like that) that works well for the guitar, but I had another one like it for the bass that I eventually wore out! After a little searching, I found a reasonably decent strap from Levy -- but it could be better.
Last time I was in Colombia, I went looking for guitar straps since there's a lot of good (and, by UK standards, cheap!) leather-work available, but unfortunately all the guitar straps I found easily were horrible synthetic weave and cheezy plastic snaps -- and marked up from the import duties! Bah! Someday, I'll get some leatherworking guy in a flea market to custom do me some :)
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I agree with you Carlaz - I want to see and feel the strap to see if it will be right for me
I tried out the Jodi Head ones when I was at NAMM and a couple of companies are bringing them into the UK
We keep a few in but they are at the expensive end of the scale
I also keep the funky Dunlop ones and must get back onto Leathergraft to get some Feline embossed ones
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I hate straps! my guitar floats
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hmmm... need some strap locks, I've had to catch My Tokai LP several Times Now...
However, +1 for levys. Mines comfy but I haven't compared it to anything costing over £25.
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hmmm... need some strap locks, I've had to catch My Tokai LP several Times Now...
However, +1 for levys. Mines comfy but I haven't compared it to anything costing over £25.
I had my LP fall onto my foot (without shoes on aswell) more than once before I had enough to buy some strap locks for it :lol:
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We got hold of these fancy Q-parts locks based on the schaller ones
They do a load of interesting designs
We chose some of the "western" design as shown below and experimented by filling in with some enamel paint to enhance the look.
They are about the same price as the Dunlop at £17.99