Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum

Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on August 21, 2006, 04:28:58 PM

Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 21, 2006, 04:28:58 PM
What is it? Is it the Warpig?
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: dave_mc on August 21, 2006, 04:35:03 PM
do BKP make a pickup as cr@p as the DB?







seriously, though, the dimebucker is ceramic, so I'm guessing (though wait till some of the more knowledgeable guys chip in) either the miracle man, cold sweat or (ceramic) warpig might be what you'd want for that kind of tone. No idea which though.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 21, 2006, 05:08:28 PM
I only said Warpig because i heard someone say it was similar to that before.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 21, 2006, 05:22:34 PM
The twin blade Dimebucker / Lawrence L-500XL is supposed to be a fairly bright pickup.  

I'd imagine the closest BKP would be the Nailbomb.

 :twisted:
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: dave_mc on August 21, 2006, 05:25:07 PM
I dunno if the DB is bright. there's a brightness to it (probably too bright), but there's a muddiness to the lows as well. I really didn't like it.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Peter Antal on August 21, 2006, 10:46:41 PM
Miracle Man
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: I M Evil on August 22, 2006, 06:44:32 PM
I don't know 'bout the Dimebucker, but the BL L500-XL
is a very transparent pickup ... and that's what Dime used
to record most of his work :D
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Tim on August 22, 2006, 08:47:58 PM
It'd be the Miracle Man........same wire too, 45 AWG SPN!
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 22, 2006, 10:18:10 PM
Cheers guys!
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Miracle Man on August 22, 2006, 11:42:09 PM
Speaking of Bill Lawrence pickups,
does anybody know how hot the L-500L is?
Is it hotter than a JB?

Cheers, Troy
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Miracle Man on August 22, 2006, 11:46:17 PM
Speaking of Bill Lawrence pickups,
does anybody know how hot the L-500L is?
Is it hotter than a JB?

Cheers, Troy
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: I M Evil on August 23, 2006, 03:25:52 PM
Quote from: Troy
Speaking of Bill Lawrence pickups,
does anybody know how hot the L-500L is?
Is it hotter than a JB?

Cheers, Troy


i believe the DC resistance is around 11 :)
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on August 23, 2006, 08:36:20 PM
I think the Nailbombs would definitley do the job for a Darrel Dimebag sound. But it's all about the guitar technique over anything. If you play poor, better pickups only further empahsise this. and likewise when you play very well. that's my advice ; )
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Peter Antal on August 23, 2006, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Tim
It'd be the Miracle Man........same wire too, 45 AWG SPN!

Ok, I give up... :lol:
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Neemo on August 23, 2006, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
I think the Nailbombs would definitley do the job for a Darrel Dimebag sound.


Nailbomb has way too much mids due the alnico magnet, miracle man fits the bill a lot better.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: deg0ey on August 23, 2006, 11:17:22 PM
The thing I found with Dimebag (and maybe it's just my ears) was that he appeared to have no tone...at all.

There was nothing really that musical about his guitar sound, it was just noise - but noise that sounded good :lol: It worked in the context of Pantera, but not a sound I'd want to replicate tbh...
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: OD-Black_Fire on August 24, 2006, 06:03:13 AM
Exactly. Dime used solid state amps and thrashy pickups for a reason. That's why no one sounds like him.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: chrisola on August 24, 2006, 08:39:36 AM
i changed my Dimebucker for a ceramic warpig... the Warpig is definitely more focused and toney... the Dime seemed to have more gain and was pretty trashy sounding..not a bad pickup, just highly specialised (as you would expect)
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 24, 2006, 01:20:49 PM
I'm not saying Dimebucker because of Dime funnily enough!

The guys from Kalmah use them and in Trivium, and i like those tones.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: Twinfan on August 24, 2006, 04:10:58 PM
Didn't Nuno Bettencourt in his Extreme days use the Bill Lawrence 500 in his custom Washburns???
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: gingataff on August 24, 2006, 04:27:38 PM
Yes and the current production Washburn N series use a L500XL.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: dave_mc on August 24, 2006, 06:28:51 PM
^ but aren't they the massproduced, and not handwound, ones? you know, after that big bill lawrence lawsuit thingy...

um.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: gingataff on August 25, 2006, 02:15:52 AM
Almost certainly, the new models have SD single coils too, I don't think you want to mix a nice handwound pup with those. Imagine the disappointment when you flick the selector switch.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: dave_mc on August 25, 2006, 01:35:14 PM
^ aye. to be honest, with a lot of the pickups that are put in guitars, I'm not so certain that sound is the major concern, lol. I guess that bill and becky just couldn't make enough for them, so they had to go with the machine made versions.
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: chrisola on August 25, 2006, 07:32:09 PM
Quote
^ but aren't they the massproduced, and not handwound, ones? you know, after that big bill lawrence lawsuit thingy...


(UN)Interesting point: there have been huge arguments over 'which is best' and 'which did Dime use'..

Turns out (i'll find the link again if anyone REALLY wants to see it) at a guitar clinic in 93 as Dime is talking about his guitar, someone asks 'where did you get the Bill Lawrence from?' and dime replies 'STEW MAC DUDE'

Thus putting the endless Becky\Bill 'handmade' vs Stew Mac 'copy mass produced cr@p' for Dime tones debate to rest..ahh those poor HC form peeps  :lol:
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: dave_mc on August 25, 2006, 11:07:21 PM
Quote from: chrisola
Quote
^ but aren't they the massproduced, and not handwound, ones? you know, after that big bill lawrence lawsuit thingy...


(UN)Interesting point: there have been huge arguments over 'which is best' and 'which did Dime use'..

Turns out (i'll find the link again if anyone REALLY wants to see it) at a guitar clinic in 93 as Dime is talking about his guitar, someone asks 'where did you get the Bill Lawrence from?' and dime replies 'STEW MAC DUDE'

Thus putting the endless Becky\Bill 'handmade' vs Stew Mac 'copy mass produced cr@p' for Dime tones debate to rest..ahh those poor HC form peeps  :lol:


aye, but then you could get into the "does dime have good tone?" argument, lol.

Good point, though. though, being dime, he did tend to endorse everything, it's possible he went with the stewmac ones to get more royalties or something (dunno, I'm just throwing it out there, it's not a fact or anything)...

 :)
Title: Bare Knuckle equivalent to the Dimebucker.
Post by: ant on August 28, 2006, 02:41:08 PM
Ar! Dimebag had ace tone! Personally i'd opt for warpigs, tight bass response with harmonics jumping off the fretboard! Sweetness! :D Warpigs are heavy as hell, so perfect for ya metal tone dude, but it has a better clean sound than the miricle man if ya wanna mellow down